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  • catcatch22
    Or should I
    • Sep 2003
    • 3378

    #31
    Re: is there gonna be auto fielding this year?

    Originally posted by Erratic
    it's not as good as it could be, but if you call the right play it isn't big problem... I honestly think that is your problem... you tell your DB's to bump the receiver (by picking a play with shallow up-close coverage) then they will get beat and the WR will be 1 on 1 with a safety.... I'm not saying i'm better than you or anything, I'm saying, offenses score points because they take advantage of what the defense gives them... Sounds like a similar problem to the one you are having in baseball which I noted in my above post...
    No I'm talking abut zones. They don't give you good controls so you have to take unrealistic measures. Which is the reason they made it so easy for years until the last game to just hit the reciever and make him drop the ball. They knew the db logic is poor. Same thing with the baseball games they know the ai switching and the controls are poor.

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    • jim416
      Banned
      • Feb 2003
      • 10606

      #32
      Re: is there gonna be auto fielding this year?

      I honestly think we have different games...

      You've got to be kidding. Camera angles were a major concern for most of the people who posted here. Most of the people who played this game thought the camera angles were awful. I'm happy for you though. Glad you're really good with the game.

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      • Erratic
        Pro
        • Mar 2004
        • 708

        #33
        Re: is there gonna be auto fielding this year?

        Originally posted by jim416
        I honestly think we have different games...

        You've got to be kidding. Camera angles were a major concern for most of the people who posted here. Most of the people who played this game thought the camera angles were awful. I'm happy for you though. Glad you're really good with the game.
        If that's what you want to think then fine... I think I just don't scrutinize over things... I haven't noticed anything major or anything that has ruined my experience... I never changed the camera once in the game, never even checked to see what else they had... I think the DB AI in football was my biggest gripe and one I started manually switching it became a small gripe...

        Honestly I switch fine, unless I am beat already, because upon the switch you slow down slightly... If your db's are in position then it isn't as much as a problem... Honestly how many DB's once they are beat make a play? 2 - 4%? Also I noted that DB's have trouble making a play on the run, so I try to put them into the position where I think the WR will end up... Notice Defenses in the NFL aren’t good because they have excellent DB's, they are good because they pressure the QB and stop the run, leading to turnovers...

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        • jim416
          Banned
          • Feb 2003
          • 10606

          #34
          Re: is there gonna be auto fielding this year?

          I never changed the camera once in the game

          I'm talking about the baseball game. You know, the one where you can put your outfielder right under a fly ball and the ball mysteriously falls several feet behind him?

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          • Erratic
            Pro
            • Mar 2004
            • 708

            #35
            Re: is there gonna be auto fielding this year?

            Originally posted by jim416
            I never changed the camera once in the game

            I'm talking about the baseball game. You know, the one where you can put your outfielder right under a fly ball and the ball mysteriously falls several feet behind him?
            No, I don't know what you are talking about... I never changed the camera in baseball... On a fly ball there is a shadow or spot showing where the ball is going... I run to it and he stands there and catches it... Sometimes that stupid error will happen where it hits him in the face, but it isn't frequent or anything...

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            • jim416
              Banned
              • Feb 2003
              • 10606

              #36
              Re: is there gonna be auto fielding this year?

              Man, I don't know what to tell you, but that WAS a problem in this game with that. Read back on some of the posts.

              Listen, you're never going to accept any of this. So no use to talk about it anymore. No, we weren't playing different games.

              I never changed the camera in baseball And if I'm not mistaken you couldn't change the camera angle in this game.

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              • Erratic
                Pro
                • Mar 2004
                • 708

                #37
                Re: is there gonna be auto fielding this year?

                Originally posted by jim416
                Man, I don't know what to tell you, but that WAS a problem in this game with that. Read back on some of the posts.

                Listen, you're never going to accept any of this. So no use to talk about it anymore. No, we weren't playing different games.
                it's not a matter of accepting, I'm just telling you my experiences... I don't understand how the spot/shadow could trick you or anything... It starts bigger and gets small and the fielder stands there and waits...

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                • jim416
                  Banned
                  • Feb 2003
                  • 10606

                  #38
                  Re: is there gonna be auto fielding this year?

                  One more time. There was a flaw in this as you could stand there all you wanted and the ball would wind up a few feet over your head. If it's just me and the rest of the gamers then something is amiss, or we're just not as good as you. You're making my point for me. Everybody else is wrong, you are right. Why? Because it never happened to you.

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                  • Erratic
                    Pro
                    • Mar 2004
                    • 708

                    #39
                    Re: is there gonna be auto fielding this year?

                    Originally posted by jim416
                    One more time. There was a flaw in this as you could stand there all you wanted and the ball would wind up a few feet over your head. If it's just me and the rest of the gamers then something is amiss, or we're just not as good as you. You're making my point for me. Everybody else is wrong, you are right. Why? Because it never happened to you.
                    Honestly that has never happened. I haven't heard an outcry about it either. None like the DB AI at least... Maybe you are getting to the spot late? Did you change the default settings (outfield lock or whatever) I don't know...

                    I played on default legend/all-star and haven't experienced it... I noted the errors I experienced earlier in the thread...

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                    • catcatch22
                      Or should I
                      • Sep 2003
                      • 3378

                      #40
                      Re: is there gonna be auto fielding this year?

                      Originally posted by jim416
                      Everybody else is wrong, you are right. Why? Because it never happened to you.
                      I think that is the answer.

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                      • Erratic
                        Pro
                        • Mar 2004
                        • 708

                        #41
                        Re: is there gonna be auto fielding this year?

                        Originally posted by catcatch22
                        I think that is the answer.
                        I didn't say it never happened to you, just that it never happened to me...

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                        • baa7
                          Banned
                          • Jul 2004
                          • 11691

                          #42
                          Re: is there gonna be auto fielding this year?

                          To put an end to this debate: baseball games should have auto-fielding, auto-throwing and full manage mode options. The more choices, the merrier. The older CPU baseball games had these options. Console games tend to cut corners here, and probably because they're for the most part geared toward the younger crowd (think "Slam Zone" and "the Crib) who aren't yet reflex-challenged.

                          As for the 2K5 fielding discussion: with fielding lock off, the ball can easily -- and often does -- drop behind the fielder as he's standing there ready to catch it. I actually play with fielding lock off, as it's a great challenge.

                          The 3-4 dozen games I played with it on, I never had that problem. Fielders routinely caught fly balls, no problem. Regardless, there is an issue in the game with CPU fielders lining up under a foul or fly ball, only to have it drop behind them. That I've seen many times.

                          Also, I recently discovered with 2K5 that switching 'select fielder' from auto to manual, improves your chances that the correct infielder will be highlighted when the ball is first put in play. It sounds weird perhaps, but it does seem to be the case. Anyone who is having a problem here should give this a try.
                          Last edited by baa7; 02-06-2006, 02:25 AM.

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                          • Erratic
                            Pro
                            • Mar 2004
                            • 708

                            #43
                            Re: is there gonna be auto fielding this year?

                            Originally posted by baa7
                            To put an end to this debate: baseball games should have auto-fielding, auto-throwing and full manage mode options. The more choices, the merrier. The older CPU baseball games had these options. Console games tend to cut corners here, and probably because they're for the most part geared toward the younger crowd (think "Slam Zone" and "the Crib) who aren't yet reflex-challenged.

                            As for the 2K5 fielding discussion: with fielding lock off, the ball can easily -- and often does -- drop behind the fielder as he's standing there ready to catch it. I actually play with fielding lock off, as it's a great challenge.

                            The 3-4 dozen games I played with it on, I never had that problem. Fielders routinely caught fly balls, no problem. Regardless, there is an issue in the game with CPU fielders lining up under a foul or fly ball, only to have it drop behind them. That I've seen many times.

                            Also, I recently discovered with 2K5 that switching 'select fielder' from auto to manual, improves your chances that the correct infielder will be highlighted when the ball is first put in play. It sounds weird perhaps, but it does seem to be the case. Anyone who is having a problem here should give this a try.
                            Well there you go... I said earlier I only play with friends at home or online so their would be no CPU fielders, and I play on default settings aside from the difficulty so fielding lock would be on... I knew I wasn't seeing things...

                            Moving on, people say the more the merrier, yet are quick to bash a game when they add something like first person mode or whatever, calling it a waste of time that could have been spent tweaking the gameplay. I don't think that is the case, but people can't have it both ways...
                            Last edited by Erratic; 02-06-2006, 08:22 AM.

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                            • solja
                              Pro
                              • Dec 2003
                              • 523

                              #44
                              Re: is there gonna be auto fielding this year?

                              i don't get the people

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                              • catcatch22
                                Or should I
                                • Sep 2003
                                • 3378

                                #45
                                Re: is there gonna be auto fielding this year?

                                Originally posted by catcatch22
                                I like what all star baseball tried to do with the fielding controls was alot more realistic. I wish all the other games took that approach. Sort of like the first person baseball idea they flirted with in 2k4. If they bring that back for fielding I might use it.
                                Where did I bash first person mode in that statement.

                                Thought so.

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