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  • Knight165
    *ll St*r
    • Feb 2003
    • 24964

    #16
    Re: CPU trades are HORRIBLE!!! Turn them off!

    Well I'm not bashing 2K6...so you can stop with the condescending attitude. I think I've been civil with you.
    The game on the PSP and the PS2 are not the same. I'll just point out to the biggest difference....no manage only mode in the PSP version. I'm sure the in game engines are very similar....but...
    since you did post those pics and I cannot argue with that.....I will digress on that point.
    I will say this....on the PS2 I've never seen anyone on the trading block before the first week in May(still early) AND...
    we're talking TRADES in this thread....you're talking rumors.
    so I guess you can say the RUMORS in this game are wacky.
    Until I see some CRAZY..CPU/CPU trades....I'm still saying you're wrong.

    M.K.
    Knight165
    All gave some. Some gave all. 343

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    • Knight165
      *ll St*r
      • Feb 2003
      • 24964

      #17
      Re: CPU trades are HORRIBLE!!! Turn them off!

      Well.....I'm now going to call B.S. on the info in those pics. It's the last I'm going to post in this thread...because it's getting WAY off topic.....but you manipulated those screens....AND you're pretty slick about it ,showing the Met Rumor Mill and then changing to a Red Sox schedule.
      I can't prove it...but...
      I'm going to guess you started a season with the Mets...put those players on the block took your pics...then started a season with the Sox and took a pic of the schedule(that's a nice touch!)
      I really hadn't touched my PSP version of The Show since I bought it. I didn't even start a season with it....
      well this thread made me go check it out....and as I suspected.....in 24 seasons started and simmed until the last day in April.....NOT ONE player on the trading block. I used a different team each time and MADE sure CPU trades were on.
      I don't get why you feel the need to post utter B.S. That's pretty pathetic though...
      Hit the bricks....

      M.K.
      Knight165
      All gave some. Some gave all. 343

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      • Pared
        Legen - WAIT FOR IT
        • Feb 2003
        • 39337

        #18
        Re: CPU trades are HORRIBLE!!! Turn them off!

        Just did a quick season check on the PSP.. and Martinez DOES show up on the trading block day one of the season. So does Delgado...

        FWIW, I saw that as Red Sox, which would make his point valid. HOWEVER...

        Comparing ACTUAL trades that OCCUR to the names of players on the 'block' sure is a poor way to spin your point. Those big names haven't got traded in the many seasons I've simmed that early... Not even close to what is being reported with this title.

        Take that for what it's worth.
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        • RoyalBoyle78
          Aka."Footballforever"
          • May 2003
          • 23918

          #19
          Re: CPU trades are HORRIBLE!!! Turn them off!

          Originally posted by Pared
          Just did a quick season check on the PSP.. and Martinez DOES show up on the trading block day one of the season. So does Delgado...

          FWIW, I saw that as Red Sox, which would make his point valid. HOWEVER...

          Comparing ACTUAL trades that OCCUR to the names of players on the 'block' sure is a poor way to spin your point. Those big names haven't got traded in the many seasons I've simmed that early... Not even close to what is being reported with this title.

          Take that for what it's worth.
          so are you saying, even though those names are on the trading block, they always don't get traded...If so that a good thing.
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          • Pared
            Legen - WAIT FOR IT
            • Feb 2003
            • 39337

            #20
            Re: CPU trades are HORRIBLE!!! Turn them off!

            Originally posted by FootballForever
            so are you saying, even though those names are on the trading block, they always don't get traded...If so that a good thing.
            Yes.. that's correct. Although in case you couldn't tell, that is the case for MLB'06:The Show.

            They DO get traded in MLB2k6 by 2kSports, according to the original topic creator.
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            • ExtremeGamer
              Extra Life 11/3/18
              • Jul 2002
              • 35299

              #21
              Re: CPU trades are HORRIBLE!!! Turn them off!

              Originally posted by Knight165
              Well.....I'm now going to call B.S. on the info in those pics. It's the last I'm going to post in this thread...because it's getting WAY off topic.....but you manipulated those screens....AND you're pretty slick about it ,showing the Met Rumor Mill and then changing to a Red Sox schedule.
              I can't prove it...but...
              I'm going to guess you started a season with the Mets...put those players on the block took your pics...then started a season with the Sox and took a pic of the schedule(that's a nice touch!)
              I really hadn't touched my PSP version of The Show since I bought it. I didn't even start a season with it....
              well this thread made me go check it out....and as I suspected.....in 24 seasons started and simmed until the last day in April.....NOT ONE player on the trading block. I used a different team each time and MADE sure CPU trades were on.
              I don't get why you feel the need to post utter B.S. That's pretty pathetic though...
              Hit the bricks....

              M.K.
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              This is easily the funniest post I've ever read. Saying another user is manipulating the screens to show the Mets having Pedro on the trading block, just to be right.

              With that said, keep this on MLB2K6, not The Show. If you have nothing to say about 2K6, then don't post. Knight, at this point you are trolling. Only warning.

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              • EnigmaNemesis
                Animal Liberation
                • Apr 2006
                • 12216

                #22
                Re: CPU trades are HORRIBLE!!! Turn them off!

                Originally posted by ExtremeGamer
                This is easily the funniest post I've ever read. Saying another user is manipulating the screens to show the Mets having Pedro on the trading block, just to be right.

                With that said, keep this on MLB2K6, not The Show. If you have nothing to say about 2K6, then don't post. Knight, at this point you are trolling. Only warning.
                Tell me about it!

                He can clearly see my RED SOX symbol in the top left of all the screens. It is blurry but is still there. (so nice try inspector gadget)

                When that symbol is there, that means it is the team you are using, and you have NO CONTROL over other teams.

                Regardless whether the trade happens or not, number one we dont know if it will happen I have yet to see anyone saying they played to the dealine of the 31st. (simming to the date and playing to the date are 2 differnt things)

                It is still unrealistic to have key players, especially half of the METS starting infield and a prime outfielder on the block. That is 2 steps backwards from what they were trying to build in the off season.

                Anyways, this wasnt to bash either game, but to show that no game gets it perfect. Enjoy all, and play ball!
                Last edited by EnigmaNemesis; 04-09-2006, 07:34 PM.
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                • slpnsld23
                  Rookie
                  • Aug 2005
                  • 381

                  #23
                  Re: CPU trades are HORRIBLE!!! Turn them off!

                  Ive had deals really bad to. Like Dontrelle and Miguel Cabrera for Kenny Rogers and 2 minor leaguers
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                  • Knight165
                    *ll St*r
                    • Feb 2003
                    • 24964

                    #24
                    Re: CPU trades are HORRIBLE!!! Turn them off!

                    Originally posted by EnigmaNemesis
                    Tell me about it!

                    He can clearly see my RED SOX symbol in the top left of all the screens. It is blurry but is still there. (so nice try inspector gadget)

                    When that symbol is there, that means it is the team you are using, and you have NO CONTROL over other teams.

                    Regardless whether the trade happens or not, number one we dont know if it will happen I have yet to see anyone saying they played to the dealine of the 31st. (simming to the date and playing to the date are 2 differnt things)

                    It is still unrealistic to have key players, especially half of the METS starting infield and a prime outfielder on the block. That is 2 steps backwards from what they were trying to build in the off season.

                    Anyways, this wasnt to bash either game, but to show that no game gets it perfect. Enjoy all, and play ball!

                    Ya know what...I could not see the Red Sox logo on that screen.
                    But I'm going to have to admit to being the horses arse here and say I'm wrong and I humbly apologize.
                    Honestly....I started season after season and never saw anyone on the block until May.
                    Pile it on boys...I deserve it.

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                    • ExtremeGamer
                      Extra Life 11/3/18
                      • Jul 2002
                      • 35299

                      #25
                      Re: CPU trades are HORRIBLE!!! Turn them off!

                      Originally posted by Knight165
                      Pile it on boys...I deserve it.

                      M.K.
                      Knight165
                      No one's going to pile it on. Just keep it on topic. Thanks guys!

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                      • Chitown1211
                        Pro
                        • Nov 2004
                        • 762

                        #26
                        Re: CPU trades are HORRIBLE!!! Turn them off!

                        Originally posted by kicker
                        Is it really that outlandish considering the Marlins history?

                        There is a sort of salary cap in the game, maybe they couldn't make payroll?

                        Didn't Griffey get traded in his prime? How about dozens of other players? Rolen comes to mind. Just gave him away. this happens all the time.

                        I am enjoying this game a ton right now. It isn't perfect, but it is addicting.


                        My sentiments exactly. I seen Sammy Sosa traded for Jerry freaking Hairston in real life. Randy Johnson was traded for a bag of BP balls and a pouch of Copenhagen. Crazy one sided trades DO happen all the time.

                        I agree that the OP's trades seemed a bit much , but its got to be an extremely hard thing to program. A CPU only sees Pujols as a number. They are tading him for another number. For whatever reason the numbers added up to make that trade.

                        If they took that out the game would be UNSIM because then you will never see the Sosa's, Johnsons, Rolens get traded for nothing. Like they do in real life.
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                        • EnigmaNemesis
                          Animal Liberation
                          • Apr 2006
                          • 12216

                          #27
                          Re: CPU trades are HORRIBLE!!! Turn them off!

                          Originally posted by Knight165
                          Ya know what...I could not see the Red Sox logo on that screen.
                          But I'm going to have to admit to being the horses arse here and say I'm wrong and I humbly apologize.
                          Honestly....I started season after season and never saw anyone on the block until May.
                          Pile it on boys...I deserve it.

                          M.K.
                          Knight165
                          It could have easily been a fluke in my game as well. I will make other seasons to find out. But it still kind of stunk to see that. I would like them to work harder in games on trade situations. I seen some silly offers in sports games for players, etc.

                          It seems like they make the teams in games trade players people dream about to make them happy. When us hardcore sim players want it accurate.

                          I cant wait for a game that allows cash considerations and waivers as well.

                          No going to pile it on mate, just when I said I seen it, I truthfuly did. No game is immune I suppose, but hopefully they get better with all this "next-gen" speak. (*drools* over a PS3 version of The Show if 2K's version next year isnt as good).

                          Another thing I would like, is for EA and such to set up leagues like 2K has on their site. That just plain rocks.
                          Last edited by EnigmaNemesis; 04-10-2006, 09:05 PM.
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                          • Knight165
                            *ll St*r
                            • Feb 2003
                            • 24964

                            #28
                            Re: CPU trades are HORRIBLE!!! Turn them off!

                            Originally posted by EnigmaNemesis
                            It could have easily been a fluke in my game as well. I will make other seasons to find out. But it still kind of stunk to see that. I would like them to work harder in games on trade situations. I seen some silly offers in sports games for players, etc.

                            It seems like they make the teams in games trade players people dream about to make them happy. When us hardcore sim players want it accurate.

                            I cant wait for a game that allows cash considerations and waivers as well.

                            No going to pile it on mate, just when I said I seen it, I truthfuly did. No game is immune I suppose, but hopefully they get better with all this "next-gen" speak. (*drools* over a PS3 version of The Show if 2K's version next year isnt as good).

                            Another thing I would like, is for EA and such to set up leagues like 2K has on their site. That just plain rocks.
                            Thanks.
                            Again...sorry.
                            And yes....every developer should be working on a better trading scheme in their games. In every sports title...it's usually the weakest part of the game.

                            M.K.
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                            • Pratt75
                              MVP
                              • Nov 2004
                              • 2357

                              #29
                              Re: CPU trades are HORRIBLE!!! Turn them off!

                              Can you turn cpu trades off and on during the season? If trades start getting wacky during the year I would like to have the option to turn them off. That would be nice but I have a feeling that it is set before starting career/franchise mode and you can't change it again.

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                              • kicker
                                Rookie
                                • Jul 2003
                                • 87

                                #30
                                Re: CPU trades are HORRIBLE!!! Turn them off!

                                Well, to those who think Dontrell Willis and Cabrerra are untradable....

                                Peter Gammons reported today On Mike and Mike that the Marlins are shopping BOTH of them.


                                Just FYI for the people complaining about teams trading guys they should "build" around.


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