MLB 2K7 is really a REFINED 2k6. Is that OK with you?

[ericjwm]

Re: MLB 2K7 is really a REFINED 2k6. Is that OK with you?

2K out of necessity has to stay with the engine and the core gameplay because there is just not time to re-build the game...Whoever was in charge of production before Brinkman really effed the game up..Now Brinkman is left with a turd and some cologne..He's now stuck trying to correct and refine a game that wasn't his baby...I'll bet if he had it his way they would build the game from the ground up.

There is no way to totally rid the game of the horrid 2k5, 2k6 sti=uff when thats the core engine..That stuff us gonna be there not matter how many changes they make...Now they may be able to sprinkle some cologne on the game and even get it to a respectable level but at somepoint the old engine has got to go out the window and they will need to let Brinkman and the new team build a game from the ground up.

Yeah, but Dan Brady's getting to build his game (The Bigs) from the ground up & its looking fairly good. Seriously though, I think there are certain major things that can be done to make 2K7 feel completely new... but we'll have to see. In order to start over from scratch they would probably need to fire Kush.

[HMcCoy]

Re: MLB 2K7 is really a REFINED 2k6. Is that OK with you?

Considering the growing pains the NBA2k product went through with the horrendous 04 and 05 titles, only to bash skulls in with the 06 version...I have faith that this will be OK, if not really good.

Kush is still a part of VC, and in VC I trust.

[K_GUN]

Re: MLB 2K7 is really a REFINED 2k6. Is that OK with you?

Considering the growing pains the NBA2k product went through with the horrendous 04 and 05 titles, only to bash skulls in with the 06 version...I have faith that this will be OK, if not really good.

Kush is still a part of VC, and in VC I trust.

ditto....VC/Kush went out & hired brinkman...nuff said

[pistolpete]

Re: MLB 2K7 is really a REFINED 2k6. Is that OK with you?

MVP 05 was pretty much the same exact game as MVP 04, except they fixed the stupid stuff. And 05 was pretty much the greatest game of all time.

[DaoudS]

Re: MLB 2K7 is really a REFINED 2k6. Is that OK with you?

MVP 05 was pretty much the same exact game as MVP 04, except they fixed the stupid stuff. And 05 was pretty much the greatest game of all time.

lol what are you trying to say? that mlb 2k6 had anything decent in it?

[mjb2124]

Re: MLB 2K7 is really a REFINED 2k6. Is that OK with you?

I'm fine with refining the game. Fix/Improve the gameplay and eliminate most of the bugs and I think I'll be happy with the game.

[devilsjaw]

Re: MLB 2K7 is really a REFINED 2k6. Is that OK with you?

I'm glad they didn't feel the need to add stupid gimmicks to improve the game, and focused on the meat of the game. As long as it turns out ok, no problems with doing that.

[ehh]

Re: MLB 2K7 is really a REFINED 2k6. Is that OK with you?

This is exactly what I was praying 2k7 would be. They needed to stop trying to run forward for a year and just run in place and fix all the crap that was wrong.

[baa7]

Re: MLB 2K7 is really a REFINED 2k6. Is that OK with you?

This is exactly what I was praying 2k7 would be.

And thankfully the Son of Baseball answered those prayers...

[Chitown1211]

Re: MLB 2K7 is really a REFINED 2k6. Is that OK with you?

Im totally fine with it. This is what they should have been doing all along. Instead of trying to rebuild the whole damm game every year.

[Fiddy]

Re: MLB 2K7 is really a REFINED 2k6. Is that OK with you?

i'm fine with this also..

maybe they can release it for 10 to 15 bucks cheaper?

[A.M. Son]

Re: MLB 2K7 is really a REFINED 2k6. Is that OK with you?

I'm glad they didn't feel the need to add stupid gimmicks to improve the game, and focused on the meat of the game. As long as it turns out ok, no problems with doing that.

Exactly! In my opinion, that's what next gen should be all about- taking a game and really pumping it up with details, fidelity, ease of use, functionality, depth, and options.

The whole gimmick route that certain other sports franchises (Madden) seem to be taking is getting lame and old. The gimmicks and "superstar" type hoopla should be left to games like The Bigs, NBA Street, NFL Street, and the like. These sim type games should be getting layer upon layer of polish and refinement, that's what we're expecting from next gen!

So far, this game looks like they've taken this route. It will take time to get it where we/ they want it, but it looks to be on a good road to improvement.

Peace
AM Son

[DStreet200]

Re: MLB 2K7 is really a REFINED 2k6. Is that OK with you?

I definitely don't have a problem with Visual Concepts refining 2K6, as a matter of fact it is what I wanted for past couple of years. Having to play 2k6 and seeing the same horrid swing animation that has been in the game since 2K4 really boiled my blood. The player models and the quirky animations didn't help either, but I am glad to see the 2K franchise headed in the right direction and I will purchase 2K7 without hesitation because it is what I had been hoping that Kush would do to get this franchise fun again.

[Trevytrev11]

Re: MLB 2K7 is really a REFINED 2k6. Is that OK with you?

I don't think they really had a choice. We would have had to skip 2K7 and wait for 2K8, if they really wanted to start from scratch. With the 3rd party license, I don't think that was a possibility with MLB.

Overall, I think they have made the best of a not so good situation and it sounds like it won't be until next year before the defense gets an overhaul like the pitching and swinging mechanics did. Also, I don't know how much different it would have been if they started from scratch. We'd probably be see more of the ugly animations and in exchange, we'd probably see less of the new ones.

The gameplay will be the deciding factor. What they have done visually, is in my opinion enough for the visuals, but if the same can't be said for the actual gameplay, then it is all for nothing. Most of us need the substance. If the game plays a decent game of baseball with minimum errors, then I think they did a good job. I don't think it has to be perfect this year, but it has to be much improved. If the game plays just slightly better than last years, then I'd say they didn't spend their time and efforts on the right stuff.

Like you said, this is what 2K6 should have been, so in essence, they are a year behind where they should be. With a lot of hard work, maybe by next year, they can make up the 2 years.

[CMH]

Re: MLB 2K7 is really a REFINED 2k6. Is that OK with you?

Refining a game is what a new version should be about.

Why would I want ten new modes that I'll never use just so they can spend one month on gameplay and call it a brand new game?

What makes New Features part of a new game? The only company I know of that thinks New Features makes a new game is EA. Refining, improving, added details, tweaking, tuning - That's a new game.