Do you let the catcher call the game?

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  • Ed_Farias
    MVP
    • Mar 2003
    • 1222

    #16
    Re: Do you let the catcher call the game?

    Originally posted by YankeePride_YP
    Maybe you misunderstood the statement or I'm misunderstanding what you mean, but the catchers call the game based on their ability to call a game. There is a rating for it.

    The ability to call a game must be based on something intelligent for it to matter. I'm going to assume it's based on IE information, but that's just an assumption.

    I have noticed that in late-game situations the catcher will call for pitches against a certain batter in payoff pitch mode. I'm talking about the entire at-bat. I still haven't figured out why this happens, but I'm assuming it has to do with building a scouting report as the game goes on.

    I've only noticed it with the better hitters. I don't know if it has to do with throwing a certain amount of pitches at a hitter or if the game is simulating the possibility that the catcher dug up a report on the hitter to make sure you get him out in the 8th inning.

    Anyone else notice this?
    Could it be linked to the situation? Meaning, if the winning run is on third with 1 out, every pitch might be a payoff pitch in that situation?

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    • CMH
      Making you famous
      • Oct 2002
      • 26203

      #17
      Re: Do you let the catcher call the game?

      Originally posted by Ed_Farias
      Could it be linked to the situation? Meaning, if the winning run is on third with 1 out, every pitch might be a payoff pitch in that situation?
      Hmm, you might be on to something.

      I've definitely noticed it in high pressure situations. I'm feeling as if I've only seen it with runners in scoring position after the 7th inning (What would be called Late Game Situations. I'm sure you know that).

      That might be it. I'll have to pay more attention to the situation.
      "It may well be that we spectators, who are not divinely gifted as athletes, are the only ones able to truly see, articulate and animate the experience of the gift we are denied. And that those who receive and act out the gift of athletic genius must, perforce, be blind and dumb about it -- and not because blindness and dumbness are the price of the gift, but because they are its essence." - David Foster Wallace

      "You'll not find more penny-wise/pound-foolish behavior than in Major League Baseball." - Rob Neyer

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      • devilsjaw
        MVP
        • Mar 2003
        • 3572

        #18
        Re: Do you let the catcher call the game?

        The manual states that payoff situations come up in any pitching jam, cluthc at-bat or "showdown" scenario.

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        • CMH
          Making you famous
          • Oct 2002
          • 26203

          #19
          Re: Do you let the catcher call the game?

          Originally posted by devilsjaw
          The manual states that payoff situations come up in any pitching jam, cluthc at-bat or "showdown" scenario.
          Yea, I should read that manual.
          "It may well be that we spectators, who are not divinely gifted as athletes, are the only ones able to truly see, articulate and animate the experience of the gift we are denied. And that those who receive and act out the gift of athletic genius must, perforce, be blind and dumb about it -- and not because blindness and dumbness are the price of the gift, but because they are its essence." - David Foster Wallace

          "You'll not find more penny-wise/pound-foolish behavior than in Major League Baseball." - Rob Neyer

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          • Kamasutra
            Rookie
            • Feb 2005
            • 182

            #20
            Re: Do you let the catcher call the game?

            I overule my catcher once every 4 pitches approx.
            For the most part, playing as Blue Jays, Zaun does a good job calling even without IE.

            For the guy (Garret67) saying that catcher call rating has nothing to do with it try having one of your bench guys (regular fielder) call the game and see what happens. I had Lind (OF) call 4 innings to test it out, pitching exactly as he called it and needless to say I got lit up.

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            • CMH
              Making you famous
              • Oct 2002
              • 26203

              #21
              Re: Do you let the catcher call the game?

              Originally posted by Kamasutra
              I overule my catcher once every 4 pitches approx.
              For the most part, playing as Blue Jays, Zaun does a good job calling even without IE.

              For the guy (Garret67) saying that catcher call rating has nothing to do with it try having one of your bench guys (regular fielder) call the game and see what happens. I had Lind (OF) call 4 innings to test it out, pitching exactly as he called it and needless to say I got lit up.
              Good experiment.

              I will say this. The difference between an A- and B- call ability is extremely noticeable.

              I think it was Brian Schneider that was calling my game when I had Mike O'Connor on the mound and this dude kept calling for pitches out of the zone. Needless to say, I was walking a lot of people. (I like going with the catcher because it increases pitch counts and allows me to walk batters).
              "It may well be that we spectators, who are not divinely gifted as athletes, are the only ones able to truly see, articulate and animate the experience of the gift we are denied. And that those who receive and act out the gift of athletic genius must, perforce, be blind and dumb about it -- and not because blindness and dumbness are the price of the gift, but because they are its essence." - David Foster Wallace

              "You'll not find more penny-wise/pound-foolish behavior than in Major League Baseball." - Rob Neyer

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              • Kamasutra
                Rookie
                • Feb 2005
                • 182

                #22
                Re: Do you let the catcher call the game?

                Originally posted by YankeePride_YP
                Good experiment.
                I like going with the catcher because it increases pitch counts and allows me to walk batters).
                Can't agree more, adds to the realism factor (as some mentioned) and the more walks, the better in my case. Sheffield was 2-2 with 1 HR when he came up for his 3rd at bat. At this point my catcher (Zaun) was calling all pitches low and away or high & tight. Consequently, Sheffield worked out a walk. This is what I would of called anyway (lol) but it's nice to see the catcher have a role.

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                • mjb2124
                  Hall Of Fame
                  • Aug 2002
                  • 13649

                  #23
                  Re: Do you let the catcher call the game?

                  Nope. I used it for a few games, but I prefer calling my own game. I actually do better calling my own game than when the catcher has called it.

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                  • CMH
                    Making you famous
                    • Oct 2002
                    • 26203

                    #24
                    Re: Do you let the catcher call the game?

                    Originally posted by mjb2124
                    I actually do better calling my own game than when the catcher has called it.
                    Ha, that's exactly why I go with the catcher's call.

                    Call me crazy, but I actually want to make mistakes and walk batters.

                    Sometimes, these catchers ask for some crazy locations, but I go with it knowing that it'll make the end result more realistic.
                    "It may well be that we spectators, who are not divinely gifted as athletes, are the only ones able to truly see, articulate and animate the experience of the gift we are denied. And that those who receive and act out the gift of athletic genius must, perforce, be blind and dumb about it -- and not because blindness and dumbness are the price of the gift, but because they are its essence." - David Foster Wallace

                    "You'll not find more penny-wise/pound-foolish behavior than in Major League Baseball." - Rob Neyer

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