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  • #31
    Pared
    Legen - WAIT FOR IT
    • Feb 2003
    • 39337

    Re: Why does 2k7 get a "free pass?"


    Re: Why does 2k7 get a "free pass?"

    Originally posted by AugustSatellite
    That would upset me, and good point, but it's not like we have Cliff Floyd as a starting pitcher or Manny Ramirez as a Closer. That would better match the extremes I think you are talking about.
    Someone here mentioned they saw Endy Chavez playing 2nd base... c'mon... that's what is holding me back. I probably could overlook the batting lineups if they weren't too bad but if the CPU can't account for an obvious IFer/OFer that kills the realism for me.

    After all, if you had seen a playoff game with A-Rod batting 7th, wouldn't you have called the game "unrealistic?"
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    • #32
      mattstl77
      Banned
      • Mar 2004
      • 481

      Re: Why does 2k7 get a "free pass?"


      Re: Why does 2k7 get a &quot;free pass?&quot;

      A game that has the CPU take no actions in trading or pursuing players in their teams are a major gamekiller for me. More so than a lineup that is a bit screwy.

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      • #33
        drae2
        MVP
        • Jun 2004
        • 1451

        Re: Why does 2k7 get a "free pass?"


        Re: Why does 2k7 get a &quot;free pass?&quot;

        Originally posted by Dienekes
        So I can't vote for a President unless I actually meet and talk to them in person? I have to actually watch Pokemon before I say it is not for me? I have to actually eat rotten cabbage that has been buried for days before I say it is nasty? I have to purchase or rent MLB 2k7 (even though I researched it) before I can say it blows because franchise mode for me would be unplayable?

        Not very logical reasoning. Is it?
        No, it's not logical. When voting for a president, at least you get a chance to hear the candidates, then make a decision. How can you make a decision on a game without playing it?
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        • #34
          myghty
          MVP
          • Mar 2005
          • 2395

          Re: Why does 2k7 get a "free pass?"


          Re: Why does 2k7 get a &quot;free pass?&quot;

          Originally posted by Dienekes
          So I can't vote for a President unless I actually meet and talk to them in person? I have to actually watch Pokemon before I say it is not for me? I have to actually eat rotten cabbage that has been buried for days before I say it is nasty? I have to purchase or rent MLB 2k7 (even though I researched it) before I can say it blows because franchise mode for me would be unplayable?

          Not very logical reasoning. Is it?
          But how do you know buried, rotten cabbage tastes nasty? It might actually be a cuisine!
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          • #35
            Heelfan71
            Hall Of Fame
            • Jul 2002
            • 19940

            Re: Why does 2k7 get a "free pass?"


            Re: Why does 2k7 get a &quot;free pass?&quot;

            Originally posted by Dienekes
            So I can't vote for a President unless I actually meet and talk to them in person? I have to actually watch Pokemon before I say it is not for me? I have to actually eat rotten cabbage that has been buried for days before I say it is nasty? I have to purchase or rent MLB 2k7 (even though I researched it) before I can say it blows because franchise mode for me would be unplayable?

            Not very logical reasoning. Is it?
            comparing those things to a video game is a stretch. Bottom line is you have never played the game. So quit complaining about it.
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            • #36
              luv_mist
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              • May 2004
              • 9596

              Re: Why does 2k7 get a "free pass?"


              Re: Why does 2k7 get a &quot;free pass?&quot;

              Seems like it's all from what he sees and reads. One thing that can be learned from each release of each game is that you can only understand for yourself when you pop it in and play it. When you don't have the game and you're calling out problems that you have heard through someone else, that's not logical. First-hand experience is totally different from impressions from other people.

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              • #37
                Dienekes
                Pro
                • Aug 2004
                • 551

                Re: Why does 2k7 get a "free pass?"


                Re: Why does 2k7 get a &quot;free pass?&quot;

                Originally posted by drae2
                Can you say that there was a dramatic improvement from the first Madden on the 360 to the next, as was the case with MLB2K6 to 2K7?
                There has been NO improvement to this game for me. That is what you guys are not understanding. I could care less about jerseys blowing in the wind and "the little things". The exact same franchise bugs as last year = no improvement. I play franchise. I don't touch exhibition, explain where the improvements are for me?

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                • #38
                  N51_rob
                  Faceuary!
                  • Jul 2003
                  • 14805

                  Re: Why does 2k7 get a "free pass?"


                  Re: Why does 2k7 get a &quot;free pass?&quot;

                  Originally posted by Dienekes
                  So I can't vote for a President unless I actually meet and talk to them in person? I have to actually watch Pokemon before I say it is not for me? I have to actually eat rotten cabbage that has been buried for days before I say it is nasty? I have to purchase or rent MLB 2k7 (even though I researched it) before I can say it blows because franchise mode for me would be unplayable?

                  Not very logical reasoning. Is it?
                  I think that you are taking things to the extremes to make your point. Everyone here will agree that there are problems with franchise mode and rosters. But there are a lot of people who are saying that the game is fun and enjoyable despites the bugs, glitches ect. You have your opnion and you know what you like and what you don't. This game is fun to play for a lot of people and at the end of the day when you as a consumer are spending $60 a pop for games that is all that you can ask for and for many people this game delivers in spades.
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                  • #39
                    LowerWolf
                    Hall Of Fame
                    • Jun 2006
                    • 12282

                    Re: Why does 2k7 get a "free pass?"


                    Re: Why does 2k7 get a &quot;free pass?&quot;

                    It has a 2K sports logo on it, hence the pass. If it had an EA logo on it, a lot of people here praising it would find reason to rip it instead.

                    I have MLB 2K7 and I enjoy it. It's not MVP, but it's a fun game. I like to play all my games, so I'll probably just play a season instead of a franchise. That will help with some of the bugs. Overall, I'm happy with my purchase.

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                    • #40
                      Behindshadows
                      CEO - BSG Network
                      • Nov 2004
                      • 8055

                      Re: Why does 2k7 get a "free pass?"


                      Re: Why does 2k7 get a &quot;free pass?&quot;

                      They get a pass because the game is fun and very playable.

                      Not everyone who buys the game, worries about some issues with franchise and what player rotation is.

                      People are basing opinions based off simulating a season or 3. How about you play the whole 162 games yourself. And let the stats be based off of human error combined with cpu error....Computers are computers and they do make mistakes.

                      2ksports did what most company's can't do. They made the series feel brand new.

                      EA doesn't and it feels like a stripped down version each year. Making us take a step backwards at a $60 cost.

                      2ksports gave everyone what they asked for a great looking baseball game, with great gameplay and presentation. Its on a major issue with some people about franchise. When you buy a game, why would you sim through years in franchise, if your intentions weren't in the first place. Were to find something wrong with the game. Enjoy the game, and stop trying to find problems with it...

                      Play Ball...

                      Originally posted by Dienekes
                      So I can't vote for a President unless I actually meet and talk to them in person? I have to actually watch Pokemon before I say it is not for me? I have to actually eat rotten cabbage that has been buried for days before I say it is nasty? I have to purchase or rent MLB 2k7 (even though I researched it) before I can say it blows because franchise mode for me would be unplayable?

                      Not very logical reasoning. Is it?
                      You don't have the game, so your opinions don't matter. Stop trolling...why haven't you been celled or banned by now....go away. You don't like the game and you've never played it, nor do you have a 360. Stop posting!!!

                      You are annoying and serve no purpose of an opinion but to hate on a game you know nothing about.
                      Last edited by Behindshadows; 03-05-2007, 02:02 PM.

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                      • #41
                        Sportsforever
                        NL MVP
                        • Mar 2005
                        • 20368

                        Re: Why does 2k7 get a "free pass?"


                        Re: Why does 2k7 get a &quot;free pass?&quot;

                        Originally posted by Dienekes
                        There has been NO improvement to this game for me. That is what you guys are not understanding. I could care less about jerseys blowing in the wind and "the little things". The exact same franchise bugs as last year = no improvement. I play franchise. I don't touch exhibition, explain where the improvements are for me?
                        On the field...the gameplay is the best of any baseball game I have played, including the Show or MVP (I know that is opinion and will be different for others). The gameplay has improved so much from 2K5 or 2K6 and strangely enough, that is what they said they were going to work on.
                        "People ask me what I do in winter when there's no baseball. I'll tell you what I do. I stare out the window and wait for spring." - Rogers Hornsby

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                        • #42
                          Spectre
                          Th* ******
                          • Mar 2003
                          • 5853

                          Re: Why does 2k7 get a "free pass?"


                          Re: Why does 2k7 get a &quot;free pass?&quot;

                          Originally posted by mattstl77
                          A game that has the CPU take no actions in trading or pursuing players in their teams are a major gamekiller for me. More so than a lineup that is a bit screwy.
                          Yuppers, transactions are a pretty big part of baseball nowadays. That seems to be glossed over just as much. After playing the Show last year with my cousin, I found it incredibly boring and bland, something that this game solves for me.

                          My .02- this game is as good a baseball game as I have ever played. I'm not a graphics whore, but what they did with this game is amazing. I didn't drop $500 to see mediocre graphics in sports games. There is no baseball game that even comes close to representing what baseball looks like as much as this game.

                          Having played several games, I'm fully content with a game that plays excellently. No other game has given me CPU and user pitch counts like this one. I'll deal with franchise bugs if the gameplay is fine, not vice versa. A game with a great franchise and crappy gameplay will get zero time from me (for me, Madden is in that category).
                          Last edited by Spectre; 03-05-2007, 02:00 PM.

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                          • #43
                            Dienekes
                            Pro
                            • Aug 2004
                            • 551

                            Re: Why does 2k7 get a "free pass?"


                            Re: Why does 2k7 get a &quot;free pass?&quot;

                            Originally posted by drae2
                            No, it's not logical. When voting for a president, at least you get a chance to hear the candidates, then make a decision. How can you make a decision on a game without playing it?
                            The same way. Research, reading, talking. Isn't that kind of obvious...

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                            • #44
                              grunt
                              Banned
                              • Jul 2002
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                              Re: Why does 2k7 get a "free pass?"


                              Re: Why does 2k7 get a &quot;free pass?&quot;

                              Originally posted by drae2
                              No, it's not logical. When voting for a president, at least you get a chance to hear the candidates, then make a decision. How can you make a decision on a game without playing it?
                              You don't have to buy a game on release day. I didn't buy the game. Just wait and read the boards.

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                              • #45
                                nyisles16
                                All Star
                                • Apr 2003
                                • 8318

                                Re: Why does 2k7 get a "free pass?"


                                Re: Why does 2k7 get a &quot;free pass?&quot;

                                Originally posted by AugustSatellite
                                I would be more upset if it wasn't the only choice, and I wasn't enjoying the game so much. If you are so worried about "Realism" in a franchise mode then I think you're crazy. I haven't seen too many odd moves in mine, and so what if the batter orders are off a bit. Teams switch things up during the year to see what works best, especially if they are struggling.

                                I just guess I don't consider the "bugs" to be that annoying, if bugs at all.

                                Please don't flame, it's just my opinion.
                                I am not trying to knock the game.. heck, in my email I sent to them I told them I enjoyed the gameplay being improved. However, how many times have you seen a RF playing SS.. or a DH playing 3rd?? Add to the fact that the lineups were coded in wrong for the different modes (they are messed up right at the start, before you play a game) other than exhibition. That is not realism. I dont care about colors of sox, but please give me a true-to-life feel for the game. If caring about how a game of baseball is supposed to be played makes me crazy, then I am a basket case ... I am not happy with the fact that the main reason I picked the game up was for the GM/Franchise modes & they are flawed. I havent said anything about "The Show" this year for the fact that I use that game for "my fix" - ie franchise modes - even though that game has issues as well.. I at least do not have to worry about my players being out of position.

                                All I ask is for T2 to fix the lineup issue..

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