Influence Hit Direction

[Lucky23]

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i was under the impression that moving the left stick aimed where you wanted your bat to go. not where you wanted the ball to go after you hit it. that would just be silly to think you can just move you stick and press the swing button and as long as you made contact the ball will go wherever you want it to.


also, has anyone found a way to consistantly check swing while using classic control? i can only do it if it's pre-determined and there's just not enough time usually. it really only works for me by pressing the a button almost violently a second time. i've never been able to do it when i actually wanted to though.

[Sportsforever]

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explain zone hitting again...i forgot

and the differences between it & MVP "hit it where its pitched" style

True zone hitting is basically you move your left thumbstick to the point where you want to swing and hit the button to swing at that spot (like MLB 2K5 and True Aim). For example, if the pitcher throws a pitch low and away, to make good contact you should move the stick down and to the left and time the pitch. If you were to pull the stick down and right you would most likely miss altogether or make weak contact if you did. I

n MVP, you don't determine where you swing. You only determine what type of swing you make (uppercut, downward, outside, inside, etc) and the timing. The hitter's ratings determine where he swings (i.e. if and how well he makes contact).

It's all a matter of opinion and what you are looking for in your gaming experience, but I personally like the MVP model because it's the player's ratings that determine if and how the ball is hit with a little bit of my thumb skills mixed in. With true zone hitting, if you are good enough, you can hit with anyone (that's not entirely true as I felt 2K5 did a good job using a players ratings, but you get my point I hope).

[K_GUN]

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<I> For example, if the pitcher throws a pitch low and away, to make good contact you should move the stick down and to the left and time the pitch. </I>

in your example....is the batter left-handed?


regardless,. thanks for the input

[ronnyballgame]

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I did a little testing too, I used a few games with just hitting the A button to hit the ball, and I got a lot of hits, somewhere around an average of 14 to 15 a game, and scored like 6 runs a game. Then I played a bunch of games with aiming the stick right or left when I was swinging at the ball, and I saw a better variety of balls hit, and I average 4 runs a game on around 8 hits a game. So I believe, if someone is going to use the classic swing, use the L stick to the left and right, it makes everything a lot better.

[baa7]

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i was under the impression that moving the left stick aimed where you wanted your bat to go. not where you wanted the ball to go after you hit it.

Nope. Try it yourself using classic hitting. Before the pitcher starts his windup, push the L stick to the left and hold it there. Any pitches you hit will end up along the left field line, or in left, or in left center. Now push the L stick to the right and hold it there. Hits will end up right field side. Hold the L stick down and all your hits will be ground balls; push up and all hits will be fly balls. Silly, I agree.

[K_GUN]

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Nope. Try it yourself using classic hitting. Before the pitcher starts his windup, push the L stick to the left and hold it there. Any pitches you hit will end up along the left field line, or in left, or in left center. Now push the L stick to the right and hold it there. Hits will end up right field side. Hold the L stick down and all your hits will be ground balls; push up and all hits will be fly balls. Silly, I agree.

but won't that emulate swinging with your hands close to your body, hence pulling anything thrown?...even outside pitches? unless your timing is waay late

[sask3m]

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while i will agree that it influences the hit direction on most instances i can say i tested this out for awhile myself and saw times when i was holding down on the L stick while swinging and i saw low line drives to the outfield R L and centre field depending on my timing, not just ground balls, anyways i use the L stick myself when i want to hit behind a runner at first or maybe need a sacfly that kind of thing but mainly i just press A to time the hit and i'm getting good variety of ground balls fly balls what have you (including some hrs.), its just like every other baseball game i've ever played they all have quirks and if your going to wait for one that doesn't you'll never have a game to play, i mean look at "the show" people said it was a great game to play and it is a good game but i mean people were still complaining that its to easy to hit in that game, this game is just fine and does most things correctly at least for me

[Sportsforever]

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Nope. Try it yourself using classic hitting. Before the pitcher starts his windup, push the L stick to the left and hold it there. Any pitches you hit will end up along the left field line, or in left, or in left center. Now push the L stick to the right and hold it there. Hits will end up right field side. Hold the L stick down and all your hits will be ground balls; push up and all hits will be fly balls. Silly, I agree.

I haven't done specific testing as you have done, but I haven't seen this. For example, the pitcher threw me a changeup low and away and I swung at it with the left stick out to the left, but my timing was way off and I rolled a weak ground ball to the 2nd baseman. I also got fooled on another pitch and had the stick out the left and it was a fastball in on the hands. The pitch jammed be, broke my bat, and I hit a soft liner up the middle that the SS caught. Maybe I am not doing it right though as I don't "preload" anything...

[sask3m]

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baa said he was just pressing restart so obviously only using three batters to test with, not a very good sample to me, ithink it makes a huge difference who is batting as well as ball placement in the zone along with your timing, as for it directing the hit on most occassions to where your aiming that the whole reason for it, lol.

[Sportsforever]

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baa said he was just pressing restart so obviously only using three batters to test with, not a very good sample to me, ithink it makes a huge difference who is batting as well as ball placement in the zone along with your timing, as for it directing the hit on most occassions to where your aiming that the whole reason for it, lol.

Well, I really think it comes down to what you are looking for in a game. I know Baa works as hard as anyone to make a game playable (I was one of the few who played 2K5 all summer and he he spent months to make it playable) so he isn't saying this just to rip the game. I didn't realize you had to "preload" your swing till he mentioned it...makes me think that I have just been using the "a" button. For me though, I'm having fun so far and that's fine. If he doesn't like it and prefers the Show, that's fine too, but I believe he has given 2K7 a fair shake.

[matthewk]

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Something to keep in mind for those saying they see a variety of hits without using the stick is where those pitches are. If you never use the stick it sounds like you'd still get hit variety simply based on where the ball is thrown and your timing.

Is anyone seeing inside pitches going to the opposite field for hits? Is there ever a low pitch being hit in the air? Without using the stick to influence the hits of course.

I still don't have a 360, and this game was a possible reason to finally get one. Baa7 is a respected source in my eyes, based on his history here. It sounds like there is a legitimate issue with the left stick, and maybe others just aren't noticing it.

The difference between 2k7 (from what I've read here) and MVP is that while the left stick did influence how you tried to hit the ball, you'd still get varied results. Pressing up and in did not cause any pitch to go into left field. I would sometimes do this and still hit weakly to the opposie field. It sounds like 2k7 is similar to MVP, but it still needs a year or two of refinement.

[baa7]

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For me though, I'm having fun so far and that's fine. If he doesn't like it and prefers the Show, that's fine too, but I believe he has given 2K7 a fair shake.

Thanks for the comments guys. That's all that counts for sure - if you're enjoying the game. As for me, I prefer zone hitting to the timed model 2K7 uses, is all. I'd purchase 2K7 in a heartbeat if the game included Classic pitching and True Aim hitting ala 2K5.

[tylercwhite]

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Am i like the only here that uses the swing stick? It's quite good for directing your hits.

[bukktown]

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Something to keep in mind for those saying they see a variety of hits without using the stick is where those pitches are. If you never use the stick it sounds like you'd still get hit variety simply based on where the ball is thrown and your timing.

Is anyone seeing inside pitches going to the opposite field for hits? Is there ever a low pitch being hit in the air? Without using the stick to influence the hits of course.

I still don't have a 360, and this game was a possible reason to finally get one. Baa7 is a respected source in my eyes, based on his history here. It sounds like there is a legitimate issue with the left stick, and maybe others just aren't noticing it.

The difference between 2k7 (from what I've read here) and MVP is that while the left stick did influence how you tried to hit the ball, you'd still get varied results. Pressing up and in did not cause any pitch to go into left field. I would sometimes do this and still hit weakly to the opposie field. It sounds like 2k7 is similar to MVP, but it still needs a year or two of refinement.

I have played about 30 games with 'classic' hitting without the L stick and I have seen a good amount of hit variety. I have hit 2 HR's without the L stick (with "power" set at 0). I have hit the ball down the lines on both sides of the field. The fly ball/ground ball ratio is split realistically. I use the L stick probably 20&#37; of my swings, and I try to use it like a zone batting interface. I have seen a flyball while pressing down on the stick. And I have seen a handfull of line drives while pressing down. So it isnt automatic that you will hit it where you are aiming the L stick. It's about 80% accurate. But 8 out of my 10 HR's have come using the L stick.

Personally I think that if they would incorporate a 'zone' hitting interface into this game it would make it much more realistic. At the very least there should be the MVP style swing influence where you get jammed/hit it off the end of the bat, if you aim to the wrong side of the plate. Even without these options, I am still getting realistic stats by forcing myself to lay off of the L stick a lot of the time. And I guess I can deal with that.

[sask3m]

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2k4 had the best hitting i've ever played it had timing, curser and true aim (zone).