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  • Bran0518
    Rookie
    • Jan 2008
    • 19

    #1

    Different Throwing Varations

    Hi, I have been browsing these forums for awhile and finally decided to post becuase of my excitement for the upcoming mlb 2k8. Fielding has always been my favorite part of baseball and baseball games(maybe one of the select few) and it gives me lots of joy when i make a long throw from third to get a speedy runner out at first. Now I have three questions for everyone. Do you think they will have lots of different throwing varations like jeters patented jump throw or guys throwing sidearm(looks like they may have it in by look of the reyes pic) opposed to overhand? Will these throws be harder to pull off than a routine throw? And will we be able to tell the diffrence in a fielders arm strength like A-Rod opposed to David Eckstein lol and can we adjust how hard we want to make a throw(probably if the throw meter is the same as MVP but still wondering)?....whew..

    Oh and please comment I would like to hear everyones answer and point of view and maybe your favorite part of baseball like fielding, pitching, batting, etc..Ok now i'm done lol
    Last edited by Bran0518; 01-19-2008, 03:33 PM. Reason: oops...accidently mispelled throw
  • Scottdau
    Banned
    • Feb 2003
    • 32580

    #2
    Re: Different Throwing Varations

    Originally posted by Bran0518
    Hi, I have been browsing these forums for awhile and finally decided to post becuase of my excitement for the upcoming mlb 2k8. Fielding has always been my favorite part of baseball and baseball games(maybe one of the select few) and it gives me lots of joy when i make a long throw from third to get a speedy runner out at first. Now I have three questions for everyone. Do you think they will have lots of different throwing varations like jeters patented jump throw or guys throwing sidearm(looks like they may have it in by look of the reyes pic) opposed to overhand? Will these throws be harder to pull off than a routine throw? And will we be able to tell the diffrence in a fielders arm strength like A-Rod opposed to David Eckstein lol and can we adjust how hard we want to make a throw(probably if the throw meter is the same as MVP but still wondering)?....whew..

    Oh and please comment I would like to hear everyones answer and point of view and maybe your favorite part of baseball like fielding, pitching, batting, etc..Ok now i'm done lol
    I don't know for sure, but I think you will be able to tell the difference.

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    • Crash Davis
      Banned
      • Jan 2008
      • 1321

      #3
      Re: Different Throwing Varations

      I couldnt tell u, im sure Eck's throw will be weaker than Rolens among others..
      Im just wondering about bunts like if somone bunts and u use a 3B I hope its not a pain to throw it fast same with DP's thats one reason i wasnt a fan of MVP throwing mechanic, some plays in the field just happen to fast for a meter sometimes... pitching and batting analog is awesome though!

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      • CMH
        Making you famous
        • Oct 2002
        • 26203

        #4
        Re: Different Throwing Varations

        Originally posted by Dirk Diggler
        I couldnt tell u, im sure Eck's throw will be weaker than Rolens among others..
        Im just wondering about bunts like if somone bunts and u use a 3B I hope its not a pain to throw it fast same with DP's thats one reason i wasnt a fan of MVP throwing mechanic, some plays in the field just happen to fast for a meter sometimes... pitching and batting analog is awesome though!
        You could always charge a throw in MVP2005 that made this a non-issue.
        "It may well be that we spectators, who are not divinely gifted as athletes, are the only ones able to truly see, articulate and animate the experience of the gift we are denied. And that those who receive and act out the gift of athletic genius must, perforce, be blind and dumb about it -- and not because blindness and dumbness are the price of the gift, but because they are its essence." - David Foster Wallace

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        • Bran0518
          Rookie
          • Jan 2008
          • 19

          #5
          Re: Different Throwing Varations

          Thats what i mean for the double plays too, different players have the ability to turn double plays faster becuase of their arm strength. In 2k7 you couldn't tell the difference becuase everyone turned them the same. Let's say you have A-rod at shortstop(for whatever reason) and he has a gun, so he's going to be able throw out player quicker than a Eck(lol once again).

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          • EnigmaNemesis
            Animal Liberation
            • Apr 2006
            • 12216

            #6
            Re: Different Throwing Varations

            If you go to this thread here, and listen to the podcast or my notes of what was said, it gives you a good idea.

            Basically the double play was redesigned with awesome results, a ton more fielding/throwing animations, and the fact a more athletic fielder will get the ball and get rid of it quicker with bare handed type 180 degree animations under the circumstance, where a less than athletic one wont be able to do.

            And you can pre-load the throws as well.

            http://forums.operationsports.com/vB...d.php?t=235202
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            • Bran0518
              Rookie
              • Jan 2008
              • 19

              #7
              Re: Different Throwing Varations

              Oh thanks I actually listened to that podcast and I forgot he said that. I just didn't put two and two together.

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              • davewins
                MVP
                • Sep 2005
                • 1913

                #8
                Re: Different Throwing Varations

                Originally posted by EnigmaNemesis
                If you go to this thread here, and listen to the podcast or my notes of what was said, it gives you a good idea.

                Basically the double play was redesigned with awesome results, a ton more fielding/throwing animations, and the fact a more athletic fielder will get the ball and get rid of it quicker with bare handed type 180 degree animations under the circumstance, where a less than athletic one wont be able to do.

                And you can pre-load the throws as well.

                http://forums.operationsports.com/vB...d.php?t=235202
                This even excites me more. For SO long baseball games have just been about pitching and hitting. Fielding was not realistic at all. Every guy on the field was just as capable as another guy in making a good play. Sure arm strength was different and some guys would be faster but there is more to it then that. Accuracy of throws and agility are huge. Jeter makes that jump throw because he is Jeter. Eckstein does not make that jump throw because he is Eckstein.

                Also breaking up double plays is a huge part of baseball that is looked upon. Well I'm glad they are adding this in and the fact that making a quick good accurate throw could mean making or breaking the dp. In all video games in the past dp's weren't really hard earned. Just preload the throw no matter what and you have a pretty darn good shot at turning it. There is obviously more skill involved in turning dp's especially harder ones and it's great that they are acknowledging this for 2k8.

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                • EnigmaNemesis
                  Animal Liberation
                  • Apr 2006
                  • 12216

                  #9
                  Re: Different Throwing Varations

                  Originally posted by davewins
                  This even excites me more. For SO long baseball games have just been about pitching and hitting. Fielding was not realistic at all. Every guy on the field was just as capable as another guy in making a good play. Sure arm strength was different and some guys would be faster but there is more to it then that. Accuracy of throws and agility are huge. Jeter makes that jump throw because he is Jeter. Eckstein does not make that jump throw because he is Eckstein.

                  Also breaking up double plays is a huge part of baseball that is looked upon. Well I'm glad they are adding this in and the fact that making a quick good accurate throw could mean making or breaking the dp. In all video games in the past dp's weren't really hard earned. Just preload the throw no matter what and you have a pretty darn good shot at turning it. There is obviously more skill involved in turning dp's especially harder ones and it's great that they are acknowledging this for 2k8.
                  Yes it is. Great time to be a baseball fan, our Sox are winning, and probably the two best showings of baseball games will be upon us this year!
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                  • davewins
                    MVP
                    • Sep 2005
                    • 1913

                    #10
                    Re: Different Throwing Varations

                    Originally posted by EnigmaNemesis
                    Yes it is. Great time to be a baseball fan, our Sox are winning, and probably the two best showings of baseball games will be upon us this year!
                    Definetley man. You go to Fenway a lot?? I don't even bother going there anymore myself. I am going to road games now instead. It's actually cheaper and I get to see places I never been and I can get better seats. I went down to Tampa last September for a weekend series (actually saw them clinch down there) and it was awesome. I haven't been to Florida since I was like 10 back in 93' and the Trop was seriously one of the best ballparks I ever been to. It was really cool being in a dome. I got seats online from Devil Rays site for $115 they were 3 rows from field home plate side of Ray's dugout 4 rows from dugout. I met Carlos Pena. It was awesome. Also drove down to Baltimore to see them play the O's and had great seats there for like $90.

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                    • EnigmaNemesis
                      Animal Liberation
                      • Apr 2006
                      • 12216

                      #11
                      Re: Different Throwing Varations

                      Originally posted by davewins
                      Definetley man. You go to Fenway a lot?? I don't even bother going there anymore myself. I am going to road games now instead. It's actually cheaper and I get to see places I never been and I can get better seats. I went down to Tampa last September for a weekend series (actually saw them clinch down there) and it was awesome. I haven't been to Florida since I was like 10 back in 93' and the Trop was seriously one of the best ballparks I ever been to. It was really cool being in a dome. I got seats online from Devil Rays site for $115 they were 3 rows from field home plate side of Ray's dugout 4 rows from dugout. I met Carlos Pena. It was awesome. Also drove down to Baltimore to see them play the O's and had great seats there for like $90.

                      I went to one last year, but it is getting harder and harder. I had tickets to a game right behind home plate. But it was the one they lost to KC with Wake pitching and some newbie pitcher (that I knew would do well since the Sox never seen him) for the Royals.

                      I had a good time though. But you are right, it is getting hellish to try and get tickets. And even worse for eBay and other places. The prices are atrocious and wrong.

                      But I am definitely going to go to away games now. I always wanted to see Camden (Oriole Park now), so I will definitely be making a trip down there. Tampa sounds very temping too. Can probably fly down, stay at or near the park and see 2-3 game series, and fly back for cheaper than 2 games at Fenway now. Only because the price gouging is insane for online sites, etc.

                      Hell, I can get 4 tickets in a row for Yankee Stadium games when the Sox are playing CHEAPER, than 2 in a row for Fenway on eBay. Obviously due to the large capacity and not as friendly "closeness" Fenway has.
                      Last edited by EnigmaNemesis; 01-21-2008, 12:01 AM.
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                      • davewins
                        MVP
                        • Sep 2005
                        • 1913

                        #12
                        Re: Different Throwing Varations

                        Originally posted by EnigmaNemesis
                        I went to one last year, but it is getting harder and harder. I had tickets to a game right behind home plate. But it was the one they lost to KC with Wake pitching and some newbie pitcher (that I knew would do well since the Sox never seen him) for the Royals.

                        I had a good time though. But you are right, it is getting hellish to try and get tickets. And even worse for eBay and other places. The prices are atrocious and wrong.

                        But I am definitely going to go to away games now. I always wanted to see Camden (Oriole Park now), so I will definitely be making a trip down there. Tampa sounds very temping too. Can probably fly down, stay at or near the park and see 2-3 game series, and fly back for cheaper than 2 games at Fenway now. Only because the price gouging is insane for online sites, etc.
                        Yeah man the Trop was really cool. Great place to take kids if you have any. So much for them to do inside. I'll be 25 in 2 months and I like all the little games that they have inside. People definetley are nice down there too. Not to knock New England but there definetley is a different between Floridians and New Englanders.

                        I take it you are in Mass but I'm not sure. I'm in New Haven, CT and Camden Yards wasn't a bad ride at all. 6 hours exactly and thats hitting some traffic. Definetley a beautiful ballpark that I highly recommend going to. I want to see more stadiums out west and I really want to go to Texas for some reason. I think I will this year lol.

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                        • EnigmaNemesis
                          Animal Liberation
                          • Apr 2006
                          • 12216

                          #13
                          Re: Different Throwing Varations

                          Originally posted by davewins
                          Yeah man the Trop was really cool. Great place to take kids if you have any. So much for them to do inside. I'll be 25 in 2 months and I like all the little games that they have inside. People definetley are nice down there too. Not to knock New England but there definetley is a different between Floridians and New Englanders.

                          I take it you are in Mass but I'm not sure. I'm in New Haven, CT and Camden Yards wasn't a bad ride at all. 6 hours exactly and thats hitting some traffic. Definetley a beautiful ballpark that I highly recommend going to. I want to see more stadiums out west and I really want to go to Texas for some reason. I think I will this year lol.

                          I live in CT too actually. In the Northern Foothills now, but lived in the New Britain Hartford Area before that. Only and extra 40 minutes ride, but I am 20 minutes from NY border, so I can hop on a highway in NY and head straight south. I have a buddy (my best friend) who is a Yankee fan (I know weird, but we are baseball people first) and he grew up in NY, but lives in the Wilmington, DE area. So I go visit him once in a while, and since he is closer to Camden, it would be great for us to go. He is all for it. He don't mind going to Red Sox games, just as I don't mind Yankee ones. We love baseball first, but still are fans of our teams.

                          My wife's family lives right outside Seattle, so I plan on seeing Safeco for sure!

                          P.S. He hates Steinbrenner's, as much if not more than any Red Sox fan. He is an "old school" Yankee fan at heart.
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                          • Bran0518
                            Rookie
                            • Jan 2008
                            • 19

                            #14
                            Re: Different Throwing Varations

                            Have you guys ever been to Citizen's Bank Park(Phillies)? That park is beautiful compared to Yankee Stadium which is great in it's own historical way.

                            And by the way in a baseball game(maybe 2k8) I want to feel like I have a chance to beat out a throw from an average fielder who can't make a crazy throw compared to a jeter or Mike Lowell(for you red sox fans) who nevers makes an error or bad throw and be like"oh crap im out".

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                            • davewins
                              MVP
                              • Sep 2005
                              • 1913

                              #15
                              Re: Different Throwing Varations

                              Originally posted by Bran0518
                              Have you guys ever been to Citizen's Bank Park(Phillies)? That park is beautiful compared to Yankee Stadium which is great in it's own historical way.

                              And by the way in a baseball game(maybe 2k8) I want to feel like I have a chance to beat out a throw from an average fielder who can't make a crazy throw compared to a jeter or Mike Lowell(for you red sox fans) who nevers makes an error or bad throw and be like"oh crap im out".
                              I have driven by Citizen Bank on my way back from Baltimore. It was actually a sunday night game of the week this last August against I believe the Braves. From 95 I saw the park all lit up. It looked gorgeous from 95 I can only imagine inside. The lighting was just incredible I think it's because it's such a new ballpark.

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