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  • ChaseB
    #BringBackFaceuary
    • Oct 2003
    • 9844

    #31
    Re: Heads Up: OS Sitting in on Ben Brinkman Conference Call

    Originally posted by metal134
    Please note, VERY IMPORTANT QUESTION.
    Isn't it up to the human to do that?
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    • beau21
      It's 5 o'clock somewhere
      • Oct 2007
      • 1813

      #32
      Re: Heads Up: OS Sitting in on Ben Brinkman Conference Call

      Originally posted by Slizeezyc
      Isn't it up to the human to do that?
      thats what i was thinking as well

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      • metal134
        MVP
        • Feb 2004
        • 1420

        #33
        Re: Heads Up: OS Sitting in on Ben Brinkman Conference Call

        Originally posted by Slizeezyc
        Isn't it up to the human to do that?
        No. Do you think MLB pitchers TRY to walk batters? That's like saying that it's up to the human to give up hits and homeruns. I should be able to walk batters when I'm trying to get them out.
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        • thornie
          08 Mets! One Year Older!
          • Mar 2007
          • 344

          #34
          Re: Heads Up: OS Sitting in on Ben Brinkman Conference Call

          Originally posted by Slizeezyc
          Just so I make sure I know what the Homerun Cam is. You mean the thing where after the ball hits the bat it focuses just on the ball from the home plate POV?
          Exactly.
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          • myghty
            MVP
            • Mar 2005
            • 2395

            #35
            Re: Heads Up: OS Sitting in on Ben Brinkman Conference Call

            Originally posted by metal134
            No. Do you think MLB pitchers TRY to walk batters? That's like saying that it's up to the human to give up hits and homeruns. I should be able to walk batters when I'm trying to get them out.
            Not try but more like bite on close pitches...
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            • metal134
              MVP
              • Feb 2004
              • 1420

              #36
              Re: Heads Up: OS Sitting in on Ben Brinkman Conference Call

              For a guy like C.C. Sabathia or Johan Sanatana, that is the case. But what about a guy like Chad Gaudin or Daniel Cabrera, who try to throw a strike but can't?
              A screaming comes across the sky...

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              • ChaseB
                #BringBackFaceuary
                • Oct 2003
                • 9844

                #37
                Re: Heads Up: OS Sitting in on Ben Brinkman Conference Call

                Originally posted by beau1221
                thats what i was thinking as well

                Slizeezyc did you catch my list back a couple pages?
                Yea thanks a bunch. TJ and myself will pick 3-5 and hopefully we get to ask at least 2....

                Originally posted by metal134
                No. Do you think MLB pitchers TRY to walk batters? That's like saying that it's up to the human to give up hits and homeruns. I should be able to walk batters when I'm trying to get them out.
                So basically you're saying that even when you hit your spot you don't want it to be guaranteed to be in that spot? So more like The Show? For example in The Show with Beckett even if you're close to hitting your spot on the meter it goes a few inches in whatever direction.
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                • myghty
                  MVP
                  • Mar 2005
                  • 2395

                  #38
                  Re: Heads Up: OS Sitting in on Ben Brinkman Conference Call

                  Originally posted by metal134
                  For a guy like C.C. Sabathia or Johan Sanatana, that is the case. But what about a guy like Chad Gaudin or Daniel Cabrera, who try to throw a strike but can't?
                  Go the route of Rick Ankiel???
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                  • areyn
                    Rookie
                    • Feb 2008
                    • 1

                    #39
                    Re: Heads Up: OS Sitting in on Ben Brinkman Conference Call

                    i dont know if this has been brought up yet but...the fact of the crowds being fixed...more emotion during the game, excitment after your team hits a home run or goes on a big rally. PLAYOFF ATMOSPHERE!!!

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                    • opd897
                      MVP
                      • Feb 2003
                      • 1093

                      #40
                      Re: Heads Up: OS Sitting in on Ben Brinkman Conference Call

                      Originally posted by Slizeezyc
                      Isn't it up to the human to do that?

                      Ok, since I have appeared to confuse some people with my initial question " will the human controlled pitcher walk anyone this year?" Let me re-phrase the question.

                      Will we have pinpoint control over our pitchers to the point where we will not walk anyone? Historically, this has been the case. I do not want to have my pitchers throwing ALL strikes at will. Only two games have gotten human control pitching down and they were High Heat and The Show.

                      As to the quote above, I suppose if I WANT to walk someone that would be up the the human (me). But realistically we should walk batters from time to time while not wanting to.
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                      • beau21
                        It's 5 o'clock somewhere
                        • Oct 2007
                        • 1813

                        #41
                        Re: Heads Up: OS Sitting in on Ben Brinkman Conference Call

                        Originally posted by opd897
                        Ok, since I have appeared to confuse some people with my initial question " will the human controlled pitcher walk anyone this year?" Let me re-phrase the question.

                        Will we have pinpoint control over our pitchers to the point where we will not walk anyone? Historically, this has been the case. I do not want to have my pitchers throwing ALL strikes at will. Only two games have gotten human control pitching down and they were High Heat and The Show.

                        As to the quote above, I suppose if I WANT to walk someone that would be up the the human (me). But realistically we should walk batters from time to time while not wanting to.
                        thank you for the clarification..
                        makes much more sense, and turns out to be a good question

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                        • phillyfan23
                          MVP
                          • Feb 2005
                          • 2319

                          #42
                          Re: Heads Up: OS Sitting in on Ben Brinkman Conference Call

                          Originally posted by Slizeezyc
                          Yea thanks a bunch. TJ and myself will pick 3-5 and hopefully we get to ask at least 2....



                          So basically you're saying that even when you hit your spot you don't want it to be guaranteed to be in that spot? So more like The Show? For example in The Show with Beckett even if you're close to hitting your spot on the meter it goes a few inches in whatever direction.
                          yes...if there arent a realistic number of user/cpu walks....that's a gamebreaker for me.

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                          • ryan720
                            Rookie
                            • Jan 2008
                            • 116

                            #43
                            Re: Heads Up: OS Sitting in on Ben Brinkman Conference Call

                            Originally posted by phillyfan23
                            yes...if there arent a realistic number of user/cpu walks....that's a gamebreaker for me.
                            haha, to me that seems like such a petty thing.. I guess people care about different things more than others...
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                            • ChaseB
                              #BringBackFaceuary
                              • Oct 2003
                              • 9844

                              #44
                              Re: Heads Up: OS Sitting in on Ben Brinkman Conference Call

                              Originally posted by ryan720
                              haha, to me that seems like such a petty thing.. I guess people care about different things more than others...
                              I think the point people are getting at is, if there's no sense of mystery in terms of if the next pitch is going to be in or out of the strike zone in a 3-1 or 3-2 count that's a downer.

                              Also at some point every pitching mechanic becomes easy to perfect, so knowing even though you hit the spot or are very close won't mean it's perfectly placed every time.
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                              • ryan720
                                Rookie
                                • Jan 2008
                                • 116

                                #45
                                Re: Heads Up: OS Sitting in on Ben Brinkman Conference Call

                                Originally posted by Slizeezyc
                                I think the point people are getting at is, if there's no sense of mystery in terms of if the next pitch is going to be in or out of the strike zone in a 3-1 or 3-2 count that's a downer.

                                Also at some point every pitching mechanic becomes easy to perfect, so knowing even though you hit the spot or are very close won't mean it's perfectly placed every time.
                                I mean I can understand that, but I'm pretty sure Josh Beckett can hit his spot the entire game. I mean if say.. Daniel Cabrera is pitching, then he should NEVER hit his spot.. It should vary from pitcher to pitcher, and rely on count, fatigue, pitcher's ratings and user's ability. I dont want Johan missing his spot just because the game forces him to. If I throw the pitch perfect, I want perfect results...
                                Joe Girardi # 27

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