Patrick Williams: Can I Have My Money Back?

[Artman22]

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Haha, so it's wrong for someone to defend the game when they like it but when you or others say the game is terrible we're supposed to sit back and just nod in agreement?

Laughable.

The double standard here is hilarious.

Defend the game and you're a fanboy that doesn't know anything about baseball. But if you say you don't like the game then you're a genius? And when those that like the game call people on that then you guys turn it back on us.

Wow, OS. Wow.

Dogs you must have tons of 2k shares. The way you defend 2k you must be chairman or Ceo of ttwo.The game is steps backwards. 2k has the best baseketball and football games but baseball is not there. I really liked 2k7 but this is a disappointment and its obvious I'm not the only one who thinks so

[The Gamer]

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I really liked 2k7 but this is a disappointment and its obvious I'm not the only one who thinks so<!-- / message --><!-- sig -->

But if a person is getting enjoyment out of the game, does it matter at all what anyone else thinks? I know I don't give a damn.

[Spectre]

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Let's see, the things he touches on in this article, in order, are...

- Dull presentation
- The commentary is repetitive
- Lack of new replays and cut scenes
- Hard to read batter card
- Throws in that he likes 2K Beats

It takes the author until the NINTH paragraph to even mention the game play. NINTH! And outside of a brief paragraph discussing pitching and the fact that it "takes too long to do" he summarizes the game play as...



A few sentences on the pitching interface and then the above quote is all he has to say about the entire gameplay package in this game. That's it?!

I'm sorry, but this could possibly be the worst article I have ever seen posted on this site. I've said it a hundred times on this site, everyone complained last year that the gameplay was what need to be fixed from 2K7. So 2K goes out and does that and now every tears the other aspects of the games to shreds. Brutal.

I agree- this is definitely one of the less convincing articles on the site. The funny thing was that he writes that he already "mastered" the system last year. Well, if he mastered analog pitching last year, I don't know what game he was playing because 2K definitely didn't have it.

Well if this author asked for a refund for this game, I shudder to think what he wanted for Madden 06/07 or Nba Live- based on the quality of those games, I think he would have had to be paid to even play those games!

Now, I think 2K faltered big time and I'm waiting for a patch before I buy it. However, I expected better from an article from this site.

[Sportsforever]

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Dogs you must have tons of 2k shares. The way you defend 2k you must be chairman or Ceo of ttwo.The game is steps backwards. 2k has the best baseketball and football games but baseball is not there. I really liked 2k7 but this is a disappointment and its obvious I'm not the only one who thinks so

That 2K8 is a disappointment to you and others is clear...in YOUR opinion the game didn't live up to YOUR standards. That is completely okay...just as someone who is enjoying the game and feels it's a solid game has every right to his/her opinion. It doesn't make YOU wrong nor him/her wrong...it's just opinion.

In this day and age, however, I really don't think anyone has any wiggle room to complain if they purchase a game and find themselves unhappy with it. We saw plenty of gameplay vids, saw screenshots, read impressions, etc AND the option of renting is always there. In the end, if you aren't happy with your purchase, the onus is on YOU...

[NEWYORICAN]

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For the people enjoying the game, good for you..really..that's all that matters, that you have fun!!..that's what its all about! like the saying goes: "Beauty is in the eye of the beholder"

Me, I was disappointed in 2K. I'm sorry, but the second year of this game is terrible. This is my opinon of course.

I loved how last years 2K7 XBOX360 looked and it played real smooth. My son and I played for hours on-line. It was and still is a fun BB game.

I was hoping for 2K8 that they kept it all the same except fix a few issues like fielding and the franchise stuff which they did, but what happend to the graphics and framerate! I can't understand how some of you say it looks better then last years. I know my eyes are not like they used to be, but damn!! it looks like crap now and very choppy. Please, compare 2K7's vs 2K8's looks..2K7 looks so much nicer and smooth. Why oh Why!! WTF really happened to it?

Yes it's true, it does play a better baseball game then 2K7 with the new fielding, but everything else either they took out or is the same..I don't see anything different other playing with the minor leagues and the new batting/pitching/fielding with the stick which to me personally is more work then fun and I don't use it.

I know they are not done yet. I'm really hoping that 2K9 will be the "Ultimate" baseball video game. My excpectations for 2K9 will be very high and I know Ben Brinkman will come through and give us the game we all want/wanted? yes?..no? or am I dreaming?...lol!

peace
Ernesto

[maverick3176]

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I know they are not done yet. I'm really hoping that 2K9 will be the "Ultimate" baseball video game. My excpectations for 2K9 will be very high and I know Ben Brinkman will come through and give us the game we all want/wanted? yes?..no? or am I dreaming?...lol!

peace
Ernesto

love your optimism, but for me expectations are based on what i have experienced in the past. If I am expecting something not based on previous experience...well that is called hope. Now I can understand someone hoping or wanting the game to be better. But to expect that is to set yourself up for disappointment. Afterall, what past event are you basing your expectations for Brinkman and 2K9 on.

The guy has a history of making bad baseball games. Matter of fact his resume has more bad games than good games. So based on past history I expect a bad game from him filled with glitches, but with "innovations". If he passes my expectations i would be pleasantly surprised. For you, he will either meet expectations or you will be dissappointed...but if he falters next year...dont be upset with Brinkman at this point...you should be upset that you set unrealistic expectations.

[CMH]

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dogs do you own a a big portion of take two shares? I mean every negative comment seems to hit a nerve. I liked 2k7 alot but I'm a realist. This game was a step backwards. I'm not the only one who feels this way obviously

Nice. So now that I like the game I'm obviously a share holder. Damn EA and their ways. They are trying to buy us out!


Please, dude. Do you own shares in Sony because you love bringing down 2k.


See how stupid that sounded. That's what you remind me of when you say what I quoted.

[CMH]

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seriously, i have nothing against 2k or people who "defend" it but come on guys at least be real with yourself. take a deep breath, look at the big picture. regardless of who hates it or loves it, when we are all real, we agree this isnt a "good game" or a "complete game". this is a sad last attempt to make money by a company that is about to go under.

You still don't get it.

You still think that because you don't like the game that everyone else shouldn't like it.

You still think that if anyone does like it they are just not being "real" with themselves.

You still think wrong.

[CMH]

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That 2K8 is a disappointment to you and others is clear...in YOUR opinion the game didn't live up to YOUR standards. That is completely okay...just as someone who is enjoying the game and feels it's a solid game has every right to his/her opinion. It doesn't make YOU wrong nor him/her wrong...it's just opinion.

9 out of 10 arguments in my life are about things like this. It always goes like this.

Carlos - Man, I think that's a solid product.
***** - What? It's so bad. How can you like that?
Carlos - I enjoyed it. I think it's solid. You don't like it?
***** - No! It's garbage. It's so bad.
Carlos - Well, I like it.
***** - Haha, you like it? Be real with yourself. You think it's good?
Carlos - Yes, I do.
***** - Look at it. It's bad. Anyone can see that.
Carlos - If you don't like it, fine. But, I do, so what's the issue?
***** - The issue is that you're being stubborn. You don't see how bad it is!
Carlos - Umm, not sure I understand. I like it and I think it's a good product. Why do you feel the need to continue to put it down.
***** - You're stubborn. It's bad. Be real with yourself and realize how bad it is.


And on it goes.

Maybe I never learn. Just never understood how I can sit back and say that I enjoy something and that's all that should matter. However, the person I'm always arguing with about this loves to take it at me and say I'm the one that just doesn't get it because I don't agree with his opinion.

Never have I come here and told anyone that they have to like 2k or something is wrong with them. Yet, the people that don't like it have continuously told me that something is wrong with me for not agreeing with them. I'm not being "real" with myself. I'm "justifying" my purchase. Or better yet, I "own shares" in the company.

I seriously feel like Mugatu right now. I feel like I'm taking crazy pills reading these comments.

It's amazing the efforts people that don't like something will take so people can be just as miserable as them when it comes to a product. They can never swallow the acceptance that others actually like what they don't like.

[boomhauertjs]

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I seriously feel like Mugatu right now. I feel like I'm taking crazy pills reading these comments.

Nice Zoolander reference!

[sbauer318]

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9 out of 10 arguments in my life are about things like this. It always goes like this.

Carlos - Man, I think that's a solid product.
***** - What? It's so bad. How can you like that?
Carlos - I enjoyed it. I think it's solid. You don't like it?
***** - No! It's garbage. It's so bad.
Carlos - Well, I like it.
***** - Haha, you like it? Be real with yourself. You think it's good?
Carlos - Yes, I do.
***** - Look at it. It's bad. Anyone can see that.
Carlos - If you don't like it, fine. But, I do, so what's the issue?
***** - The issue is that you're being stubborn. You don't see how bad it is!
Carlos - Umm, not sure I understand. I like it and I think it's a good product. Why do you feel the need to continue to put it down.
***** - You're stubborn. It's bad. Be real with yourself and realize how bad it is.


And on it goes.

Maybe I never learn. Just never understood how I can sit back and say that I enjoy something and that's all that should matter. However, the person I'm always arguing with about this loves to take it at me and say I'm the one that just doesn't get it because I don't agree with his opinion.

Never have I come here and told anyone that they have to like 2k or something is wrong with them. Yet, the people that don't like it have continuously told me that something is wrong with me for not agreeing with them. I'm not being "real" with myself. I'm "justifying" my purchase. Or better yet, I "own shares" in the company.

I seriously feel like Mugatu right now. I feel like I'm taking crazy pills reading these comments.

It's amazing the efforts people that don't like something will take so people can be just as miserable as them when it comes to a product. They can never swallow the acceptance that others actually like what they don't like.

I have no problem with people liking the game. I rented the game and realized it just wasn't for me. However, what irritates me are conversations like this:

Carlos - Man, I think that's a solid product.
***** - What? It's so bad. How can you like that?
Carlos - I enjoyed it. I think it's solid. You don't like it?
***** - I didn't enjoy it at all
Carlos - Well, Madden sucked. The Show is the same. Why haven't you said anything about those?
***** - Er. well.. we're not talking about them.
Carlos - It's always like that. Madden gets a billion chances and never changes.
***** - What the hell are you talking about? This is not about Madden.
Carlos - I know this is not about Madden, but it upsets me because people like to bash 2K.
***** - What?

Seriously, you would have thought people were bashing each others mothers around here.

[arseniotall]

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why this thread is still open says it all in a nutshell..lol

[CMH]

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I have no problem with people liking the game. I rented the game and realized it just wasn't for me. However, what irritates me are conversations like this:

Carlos - Man, I think that's a solid product.
***** - What? It's so bad. How can you like that?
Carlos - I enjoyed it. I think it's solid. You don't like it?
***** - I didn't enjoy it at all
Carlos - Well, Madden sucked. The Show is the same. Why haven't you said anything about those?
***** - Er. well.. we're not talking about them.
Carlos - It's always like that. Madden gets a billion chances and never changes.
***** - What the hell are you talking about? This is not about Madden.
Carlos - I know this is not about Madden, but it upsets me because people like to bash 2K.
***** - What?

Seriously, you would have thought people were bashing each others mothers around here.

I agree. But Carlos would never say those things.

[CMH]

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Nice Zoolander reference!

Sine we're in the spirit of this attitude here goes:

Best comedy in the past 10 years! If you disagree you're not being real with yourself and just trying to justify the 10 bucks you spent watching Jackie Moon.

And yes, I own shares in the "Center For Children Who Can't Read Good And Wanna Learn To Do Other Stuff Good Too." We just celebrated our 6th year in business and we're going strong with the exception of a little hostile takeover attempt by the "Academy For Young People Who Can't Write Good And Wanna Learn To Do Other Things Good Also."

[sbauer318]

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And yes, I own shares in the "Center For Children Who Can't Read Good And Wanna Learn To Do Other Stuff Good Too." We just celebrated our 6th year in business and we're going strong with the exception of a little hostile takeover attempt by the "Academy For Young People Who Can't Write Good And Wanna Learn To Do Other Things Good Also."

Does the six years include the time when the building was too small for people to get inside or does it just include the enlarged version? haha. Great movie.

Edit: I also use the crazy pills reference too. I use it about once a month.