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  • Checmate101
    N.W.O. - NO WR OPEN
    • Mar 2006
    • 9947

    #76
    Re: GCHD User Requested Gameplay Videos Here

    Originally posted by Checmate101
    the site isn't working for me..to see the practice mode anyway

    Nevermind I got it to work..

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    • Artman22
      MVP
      • Jul 2006
      • 4985

      #77
      Re: GCHD User Requested Gameplay Videos Here

      Originally posted by SoxFan01605
      Here's a few impressions:

      1. I think (well hope...but with a bit more realism implied) that framerate will not be an issue this year (at least on 360).

      2. Transition animations look MUCH improved (though I agree with BFJ about some of the horrid old animations).

      3. I think the presentation will be the selling point for this game overall. The commentary sounds great thus far, and most of the camera angles are very well used.

      4. I said the hit variety seemed good for the small sample after the OS vids. I may have to rethink that. I have yet to see anything new over the last couple years in that category. This would be a concern for me.

      5. Apparently they REALLy like pinstripes. So much so, that they doubled them on the Yankees uniform. It's a minor gripe, sure, but when C.C looks like he's wearing plain white pants at home, it's a tad distracting (especially for someone who will see them 20+ times in a season).

      Here's my thing. It looks like the improved performance issues, presentation, and some (but not all) graphical quirks. However, I don't see anything new or enticing about the gameplay.

      It looks exactly the same to me. I'm sure some will like that just fine, but the gameplay (aside from the controls, which were a plus for the series) has been the letdown for me.

      If everything is up to snuff performance wise, I will still consider this as a potential PC purchase (assuming the 19.99 pricepoint is correct). I just can't see myself spending $60+ on this game, based on what I've seen. I will, of course, rent it to be sure...but that's where I stand at the moment.
      I disagree. It looks much more improved in the gameplay department to me. 2k8 was horrible in everyway possible. U say the gameplay looks the same but that can also be said for mlb the show. I really enjoy the show but 09 feel alot like 08 as far as gameplay. I'll wait to actually play the game(DEMO) before i judge how gameplay feels:wink:.
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      • reddog01
        Rookie
        • Feb 2009
        • 55

        #78
        Re: GCHD User Requested Gameplay Videos Here

        Gameplay doesnt look bad but some of the animations have to go

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        • Pirate
          Rookie
          • Feb 2004
          • 378

          #79
          Re: GCHD User Requested Gameplay Videos Here

          Originally posted by Scottdau
          Sounds like you have your work cut out for you. Also, I really do not like the swing animations. Can't they fixed that by now? I guess not and the pitching is way to slow.
          Let's just hope some tools for editing 2K's files are developed. If it's like NBA then we have a few tools, but not enough to edit major items like stadium structure etc. I don't think animations have been edited in MVP, but I think they were in High Heat, not sure though.

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          • bigfnjoe96
            Hall Of Fame
            • Feb 2004
            • 11410

            #80
            Re: GCHD User Requested Gameplay Videos Here

            Originally posted by nemesis04
            If it looks static why would it give you hope there was progression? Just asking, I would think you would feel the opposite.
            I'm still open to progression because the lighting progresses over time. Like in 2k7, the lighting usually started progressing after the 4th or 5th inning. The practice video seem to be only 2 innings @ best

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            • Trevytrev11
              MVP
              • Nov 2006
              • 3259

              #81
              Re: GCHD User Requested Gameplay Videos Here

              In the practice video, the bat to ball physics are impressive. Everytime the hitter tried to pull an outside pitch the result was a weak liner or grounder to the left side. One pitch was a fastball in, the hitter really had to pull his hands in to square up on the ball. All the hits that I saw looked realistic from the location of the pitch/swing to the type of swing to the result of the hit.

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              • Pirate
                Rookie
                • Feb 2004
                • 378

                #82
                Re: GCHD User Requested Gameplay Videos Here

                Problems with Fenway:
                - No coke deck in LF
                - Truss for roof is incorrect
                - Seating bowl rake is too great
                - No Citgo placeholder sign on Monster by sec. 33
                - Monster seats way too shallow, people look like munchkins
                - Signs too small over monster
                - Coke bottles are now gone
                - No luxury box seating
                - Scoreboard is all types of wrong
                - Monster Dog stand behind light truss weirdly shaped
                - No monster signage
                - No monster walkway over sec. 33
                - Pavilion level simply not even built
                - RF roof area unchanged
                - Prudential building is just.... no. It's not even close. EA did a better job in '05.
                - The Hancock building is shiny. This looks beaten to hell.
                - No Gotham building at all.
                - Concourse area completely wrong; almost none of it is transparent.
                - I simply can't get over how badly they f'd up the seating bowl. It took me about 8 hours to model the seating bowl of Fenway, and mine had a lot of errors. It looked 1000x better than this.
                - Why are the people in the blue grandstand seats levitating? Why is there an awkward 15' gap where there's just a light grandstand seating texture, ala '05?
                - About 4x as many portals down the RF line in the game as in real life.
                - RF corner walls incorrect height. No taper whatsoever. They didn't figure out how the corner bent, which is only possible by modeling Fenway's 1934 design and working forwards.
                - There are awkward walls in state street pavilion area.
                - Gap between bleachers and Sec. 1 about 2x real life.
                - Bleacher sign supports are not visible in real life.
                - Rolie's grass looks better in MVP.
                - Monster seats go too far to CF.

                I'm obviously picking nits here, but c'mon. 2k, release a dev tool so we can fix these problems. I understand that you're under deadlines, but we're not. Let us fix what you didn't get around to, and you're welcome to use our work in 2k10. We got a deal here?
                This is the list of Fenway inaccuracies posted over at MVP Mods by another member.

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                • ill pill
                  Banned
                  • Jul 2006
                  • 62

                  #83
                  Re: GCHD User Requested Gameplay Videos Here

                  Hit variation looks soooooo much better

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                  • ShowTyme15
                    LADetermined
                    • Jan 2004
                    • 11853

                    #84
                    Re: GCHD User Requested Gameplay Videos Here

                    I se the "around the horn" works now LOL

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                    • thornie
                      08 Mets! One Year Older!
                      • Mar 2007
                      • 344

                      #85
                      Re: GCHD User Requested Gameplay Videos Here

                      Originally posted by Trevytrev11
                      In the practice video, the bat to ball physics are impressive. Everytime the hitter tried to pull an outside pitch the result was a weak liner or grounder to the left side. One pitch was a fastball in, the hitter really had to pull his hands in to square up on the ball. All the hits that I saw looked realistic from the location of the pitch/swing to the type of swing to the result of the hit.
                      Exactly what I noticed man. Thanks for articulating it better than I could. The ball off the bat is FAR and away better than 2k7 or 2k8.
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                      • SoxFan01605
                        All Star
                        • Jan 2008
                        • 7982

                        #86
                        Re: GCHD User Requested Gameplay Videos Here

                        Originally posted by Art1bk
                        I disagree. It looks much more improved in the gameplay department to me. 2k8 was horrible in everyway possible. U say the gameplay looks the same but that can also be said for mlb the show. I really enjoy the show but 09 feel alot like 08 as far as gameplay. I'll wait to actually play the game(DEMO) before i judge how gameplay feels:wink:.
                        lol..I never mentioned The Show or made any definitive statements. I'm not quite even sure why that game has to even be brought up in this case. It sounds like a defensive statement (not saying that's your intent, just generalizing).

                        I agree you have to actually play to know for sure, but can you honestly tell me one thing that looks improved over 2K8 from a gameplay standpoint?

                        I'm not talking framerate or transition animations. I'm talking straight gameplay. I just don't see it...sorry. Hit variety, base animations, ball travel, etc all look the same to me. I'll be happy to be proven wrong once I try it though, believe me

                        As far as The Show, I see your point. There are no MAJOR gameplay changes, only subtle ones. Maybe the changes in gameplay in 2K9 are subtle as well, which is why I don't see them. I can buy that. That said, it's a completely different animal, IMO.

                        The Show just needed tweaks here and there to play well. 2K needed a lot of work (my opinion). Meaning The Show can get away with tweaking, while with 2K it stands out more as needing real work. That's all.

                        Obviously, neither is perfect and both will still need work next year...regardless of how much was or wasn't done this year. I just haven't seen enough from this game to warrant a 60$ purchase for me. Like I said, I'll still give it a rent (I mean, I'm not writing it off or anything). Heck, I even said it might still be a viable PC option for me.

                        I really think these videos do nothing one way or the other. Meaning if you were potentially planning on a purchase, there is nothing to disuade you. If you were planning on passing or kind of on the fence, there was nothing to sell you.

                        If anyone is actually sold after these videos, then good stuff. I have absolutely no problem with that at all. Obviously opinion and tastes vary. So if you're digging it, I'm honestly happy for you. Enjoy
                        Last edited by SoxFan01605; 02-13-2009, 02:51 PM.

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                        • DaveDQ
                          13
                          • Sep 2003
                          • 7664

                          #87
                          Re: GCHD User Requested Gameplay Videos Here

                          Originally posted by Pirate
                          This is the list of Fenway inaccuracies posted over at MVP Mods by another member.
                          You know, it's a shame that this crap happens, with whatever game. It is entirely out of hand that people do this. The Show, 2K, whatever...it's just ridiculous.

                          I applaud you for calling him out.
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                          • HK-47
                            Pro
                            • Aug 2006
                            • 693

                            #88
                            Re: GCHD User Requested Gameplay Videos Here

                            Originally posted by Trevytrev11
                            One pitch was a fastball in, the hitter really had to pull his hands in to square up on the ball.
                            Yeah, I thought that looked really good.


                            The game looks great, my only complaint is that big yellow circle that pops up when your pitching...That thing is ugly.Oh, and the guy playing the game needs to take some fielding practice for at least an hour or 2...

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                            • thornie
                              08 Mets! One Year Older!
                              • Mar 2007
                              • 344

                              #89
                              Re: GCHD User Requested Gameplay Videos Here

                              Originally posted by SoxFan01605
                              I'm not talking framerate or transition animations. I'm talking straight gameplay. I just don't see it...sorry. Hit variety, base animations, ball travel, etc all look the same to me. I'll be happy to be proven wrong once I try it though, believe me

                              I dunno dude... Watching that practice video, I saw things I NEVER saw in 2k8. The way the ball reacts off the bat is COMPLETELY different. The way the ball hits the ground is also different.

                              I captured this frame from the practice video. Notice how the hitter lunges and tries to pull the outside pitch... The result is roller up the middle. This was NEVER ink 2k8. The hitter would take the bat to the ball completely stationery (no lunging) and successfully pull the ball hard down the line, or jack it out defying the laws of physics.



                              There's also the scene directly after this one, where the hitter once again tries pulling the outside pitch and this time hits a lazy fly ball caught by the SS on the 3rd base side of the diamond. C'mon dude, you can't seriously tell me you saw this sort of stuff in 2k8. If you did, I want to play your copy of the game, cuz the one I've got must be screwed.
                              Last edited by thornie; 02-13-2009, 03:06 PM.
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                              • Checmate101
                                N.W.O. - NO WR OPEN
                                • Mar 2006
                                • 9947

                                #90
                                Re: GCHD User Requested Gameplay Videos Here

                                In the Jon Lester vid, The computer do not take any pitches at all.
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