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  • Ferrari997
    Pro
    • Mar 2008
    • 667

    #1

    Is there a "Potential" rating?

    I browsed around individual player ratings and I can't seem to find their potential rating. Is it in this game or did they decide leave it out? It's important to me, especially when trading for prospects and obviously for the draft. Anyone?
  • Ferrari997
    Pro
    • Mar 2008
    • 667

    #2
    Re: Is there a "Potential" rating?

    I just found out from someone that they left it out. Wow if any sport needed a potential rating, it's baseball with all the prospects and everything. Even nba2k9 has it

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    • therockstar2005
      Rookie
      • Aug 2007
      • 330

      #3
      Re: Is there a "Potential" rating?

      Part of that might be that this year, a player improves based on his playing time and actual performance. So maybe that Potential would either A) be a lot harder to calculate, or B) not matter much since it could change all the time. Of course I could be way off, too.
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      • MacDaddy
        Rookie
        • Aug 2008
        • 124

        #4
        Re: Is there a "Potential" rating?

        Seriously, what is potential but a random number a programmer assigned to a player anyway? I'd much rather have it be based on player performance in-game.

        But hey, people will find anything to pile on about when they smell blood in the water.

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        • HK-47
          Pro
          • Aug 2006
          • 693

          #5
          Re: Is there a "Potential" rating?

          So if Reggie Willits plays full time, he can turn into a 40HR threat?...2k9 is a joke.

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          • Ferrari997
            Pro
            • Mar 2008
            • 667

            #6
            Re: Is there a "Potential" rating?

            Oh no, don't get me wrong. I'm not one of those nit picky guys that rip apart every aspect of the game. It'd just nice to see which prospects in my farm system I should keep my eye on, or dedicate more playing time that's all because that player has a bigger chance of getting called up sooner than later that's all.

            One idea I'd like is to have a potential rating change every year based on his progression. I'd like the potential rating to be based on how good your scouts are. If your scouts do a good job, then there is less likely that the prospect will be a flop, and if your scouts suck, then it's a total crap shoot how the prospect will turn out. Just my 2 cents.

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            • therockstar2005
              Rookie
              • Aug 2007
              • 330

              #7
              Re: Is there a "Potential" rating?

              Originally posted by HK-47
              So if Reggie Willits plays full time, he can turn into a 40HR threat?...2k9 is a joke.
              Um...ok, cause that's exactly how it works. You got 2k9 good there...
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              Go STL Cardinals!!!
              Go STL Blues!!!
              Go STL Rams...please don't get Sam Bradford killed...

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              • therockstar2005
                Rookie
                • Aug 2007
                • 330

                #8
                Re: Is there a "Potential" rating?

                Originally posted by Ferrari997
                Oh no, don't get me wrong. I'm not one of those nit picky guys that rip apart every aspect of the game. It'd just nice to see which prospects in my farm system I should keep my eye on, or dedicate more playing time that's all because that player has a bigger chance of getting called up sooner than later that's all.

                One idea I'd like is to have a potential rating change every year based on his progression. I'd like the potential rating to be based on how good your scouts are. If your scouts do a good job, then there is less likely that the prospect will be a flop, and if your scouts suck, then it's a total crap shoot how the prospect will turn out. Just my 2 cents.
                I haven't checked out the franchise yet. Is there like a report, or an easy way to see the stats for the minor league teams and players, because I guess that'd be the way to see it. I know that's how I'll solve position battles is have them do 50/50 splits for a couple of months and see who's performing better.
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                Go STL Blues!!!
                Go STL Rams...please don't get Sam Bradford killed...

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                • Ferrari997
                  Pro
                  • Mar 2008
                  • 667

                  #9
                  Re: Is there a "Potential" rating?

                  Even tho I do like their natural progression of if you give the player more playing time, he will increase faster. There STILL has to be a ceiling for every player. Some prospects start out at 55-57, and their ceiling may be 90-95 if given a chance and quality playing time. While some players are just average prospects, where they start out at 70ish....but their ceiling is only 80. That is why I think a potential rating is important in those regards.

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                  • therockstar2005
                    Rookie
                    • Aug 2007
                    • 330

                    #10
                    Re: Is there a "Potential" rating?

                    Originally posted by Ferrari997
                    Even tho I do like their natural progression of if you give the player more playing time, he will increase faster. There STILL has to be a ceiling for every player. Some prospects start out at 55-57, and their ceiling may be 90-95 if given a chance and quality playing time. While some players are just average prospects, where they start out at 70ish....but their ceiling is only 80. That is why I think a potential rating is important in those regards.
                    That I can understand, I just wonder how people can set the ceiling for which player and whatnot. As often as we see players that everyone knows are going to be great, we see all these long shots that also become really good. I guess it'd be easier to do within the game, but I kind of like that bit of unpredictability. Maybe once I get a chise underway for a few years I can see how the progression actually goes. If everyone who gets playing time winds up in the 90s that could be a problem.
                    Go BC Eagles!!!
                    Go STL Cardinals!!!
                    Go STL Blues!!!
                    Go STL Rams...please don't get Sam Bradford killed...

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                    • MacDaddy
                      Rookie
                      • Aug 2008
                      • 124

                      #11
                      Re: Is there a "Potential" rating?

                      Originally posted by HK-47
                      So if Reggie Willits plays full time, he can turn into a 40HR threat?...2k9 is a joke.
                      What are you talking about? Did you see anywhere where it said, playing time=turning willits into home run kings? Playing time and performance. So if Willits hits 40 homers in a season, it will probably increase his liklihood in the future. I doubt anyone is saying if willits has 40 steals, he'll start hitting 40 homers. 2k9 critics are tards. Understand what you're talking about, and then critique.

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                      • Ferrari997
                        Pro
                        • Mar 2008
                        • 667

                        #12
                        Re: Is there a "Potential" rating?

                        I would like to see potential ratings fluctuate and be fluid while the prospect is still in the minors based on his situation (starter? consistent playing time?), or even more impressively, based on his stats. But I think once the prospect gets called up, his potential rating should be more set it stone.

                        Yeah my main concern is, I don't want playing time to be the #1 way to develop a player. That'd be too easy. There HAS to be players that simply don't progress as much as others, or players that just plain suck and don't pan out at all.

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                        • NC State-31 UNC-27
                          MVP
                          • Nov 2007
                          • 1525

                          #13
                          Re: Is there a "Potential" rating?

                          maybe the ratings are built in but just hidden? That seems more likely. I would assume that minor leaguers would progress, but doubt it is all on playing time and performance because that would be very innovative and haven't heard anything about it.

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                          • therockstar2005
                            Rookie
                            • Aug 2007
                            • 330

                            #14
                            Re: Is there a "Potential" rating?

                            It'd be cool if there was that scouting thing like you alluded to, that way potential could have a "real" value but appear fluid to different teams based on what they're looking for and how much time they spend investigating a prospect or current player. Make it like IE, and spend points to check out players throughout the MLB and the upcoming draft class, even have the CPU present you with a list of prospects you might want to investigate further, something like that.

                            Basically, combine OOTP and 2k. It'd be cool, and maybe if Franchise can stay stable enough that could be something 2k could add next time around.
                            Go BC Eagles!!!
                            Go STL Cardinals!!!
                            Go STL Blues!!!
                            Go STL Rams...please don't get Sam Bradford killed...

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                            • Ferrari997
                              Pro
                              • Mar 2008
                              • 667

                              #15
                              Re: Is there a "Potential" rating?

                              I don't think the potential ratings are hidden somewhere. I think I read a Dev franchise report of them leaning towards natural progression based on playing time and all that rather than a set potential rating.

                              I hope this is just year 1 of building the franchise mode into something awesome. This year's is already better than last year's so I will give them some credit. The presentation alone looks better. But if one thing they should focus on is scouting because it is HUGE and SO important in baseball. Just ask the Tampa Bay Rays or the Royals. They don't have the the deep pockets so they rely on their scouts much more heavily. NBA 2k9 has a scouting system that's not terrible, but it would definitely be a start.

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