Busted! Scripted Nonsense.

[stealyerface]

Okay, after struggling through this mess of fielding issues and taking a close look at the play as it unfolds I have discovered an interesting and very troubling little piece of information.

The next time you have an outfielder misplay an obvious routine fly ball, and the ball hits him in the head, bounces behind him, or is just an obvious flub, press the start button on the controller. Now hit replay. Now focus your attention on the pitcher. Hmmm... The have added a few new animations for the pitchers this year that show the emotion of giving up a homerun, giving up a hit, and the pitcher will slap his mitt, swear at himself, throw his head back, etc... to show the emotion of his mistake. Ahhh... now watch the replay after that routine fly ball heads out to the outfield. Why would the pitcher shake his fist in the air or throw his hands up in disgust on an easy fly ball to his teammates int he outfield? Well, here's why. Because the outfielder is going to drop, misplay, or totally miss the ball. Same goes for a grounder that is misplayed. The ball is an easy dribbler to short, and I notice my pitcher's head move in such a fashion that he is really upset about inducing the grounder to end the inning. Does he have ESP? Apparently, because that ball is about to be booted, and the runner safe at first.

This is lame with a capital L and some swear words in front of it. I will leave the swear words to your own design, as I would not like to receive another warning for my potty mouth.

So, next time you notice your pitcher with an animation that seems like he is mad, even though the ball has not even been fielded yet, get ready, you'll know what is coming.

syf

[Yeah...THAT Guy]

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Still isn't really a big issue. Just cuz they show his emotion early isn't a big deal. The issue is the fielding, not the pitcher getting mad before his guy makes an error.

[cmoore10998]

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I believe his point is that no matter what you would do the game is scripting plays i.e. no matter what you do that guy will make an error.
Very discouraging indeed, who is to tell what is and is not scripted take for instance that pitch out of the zone at the batters feet that gets hit for a HR. It stands to reason that no matter what pitch you throw the end result is scripted. This is easy to read to much into but it is interesting none the less.

[jkra0512]

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I have been saying this since the second week this game came out. I have had many instances where the outfielder mysteriously moves over at the last second as the ball is coming down into his glove, he misses it and it goes to the wall.

I also have my concerns with knowing the CPU is going to have a big inning. I can usually tell they are going to have a good hitting inning when they start hitting the first pitch NO MATTER WHERE IT IS. Playing the White Sox I was up 11-5 in the bottom of the ninth and all of the sudden I couldn't get a pitch passed them whether it was in the strike zone or not.

Listen, I realize you can hit balls out of the zone for base hits. But, when they start hitting EVERYTHING out of the zone on the first pitch....c'mon 2k that's on you for being lazy.

[Yeah...THAT Guy]

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alrite what I'm saying is that its not that its scripted, its still random like any other game, it just shows you when its gonna happen before it happens. its just like any other baseball game.

[stealyerface]

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No. You are missing the point. It is not random. If I misplay a ball, I will gladly accept the error or the misplay. But, when I am in a bases loaded jam, and make a great pitch to Giambi, and he pops it up to my outfielder, and as the camera pans passed the pitcher, I see the pitcher shake his head in disgust, I know the ball is going to fall. To me, that is just wrong.

syf

[14ledo81]

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How about your batter starting the homerun trot right away on a ball barely over the fence. That kind of tips you off too.

[Blzer]

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Unfortunately, The Show has scripted errors as well. It's hard to describe the situations that I've noticed, but one of them is when the ball is hit and the game selects you to control your outfielder when it's a ground ball to your infielder. You should control him, only the game has already scripted that it will go through his legs and he will miss. Something like that.

I've seen others with the CPU how the camera does something where I sort of just predict that it's going to be an error, and I'm most always right.

But this is unfortunate.

[jeffy777]

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How about your batter starting the homerun trot right away on a ball barely over the fence. That kind of tips you off too.

Actually, Soriano does that all the time in real life. Some times it bounces off the fence though and he's stuck with a single, haha

[opd897]

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I would imagine that any decent video game (baseball) will have errors scripted in. I'm sure it's coded so that there are a certain percentage of errors which is good and realistic. What is not realistic, but does not bother me, is that the pitcher apparently (I have not seen it but haven't looked for it) is having a reaction prior to the error happening.

It's a video game guys.

[tril]

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Unfortunately, The Show has scripted errors as well. It's hard to describe the situations that I've noticed, but one of them is when the ball is hit and the game selects you to control your outfielder when it's a ground ball to your infielder. You should control him, only the game has already scripted that it will go through his legs and he will miss. Something like that.

I've seen others with the CPU how the camera does something where I sort of just predict that it's going to be an error, and I'm most always right.

But this is unfortunate.

yup, The SHOWS scripted feel is more blatant than 2k9.

as far as 2k9 I think the reason why the game plays the way it does is because I think the stats accumulation window is on a shorter cycle than MLB the SHOW.
The sliders when messed with for the most part are set so that you get the intended results more frequently. thus getting a scripted feel. The results arent scripted to go through an entire season. I say the slider set is on a 6 game/day loop, that way each pitcher gets varying results but still scripted. same with the outfielder errors, etc.
Again I think this happens only when sliders get changed/adjusted, etc.
as far as the outfielder issue if you put the fielder on lock, the dropped issues get minimized drastically.

[BigL]

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Anybody else notice when you are at bat before the AI pitcher throws his pitch in the top right hand corner it will say STRIKE? LOL

[jkra0512]

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Anybody else notice when you are at bat before the AI pitcher throws his pitch in the top right hand corner it will say STRIKE? LOL

Are you serious? I need to check this out...

[gwill07]

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is it me or does online still feel like a homerfest? i've played numerous online games since the second patch, and only i've only played a couple of games where my opponent scored by getting runners on, moving them over, and driving them in w/base hits & sacrifices. its getting real annoying when i throw a pitch off the plate and it gets pulled for an upper deck HR. how many times does that happen in real life? my pitcher losing games where he only gives up 3-4 and 1 or 2 are BS HR's while having 10+ K's is frustrating.

sorry for the rant, just thought this was the appropriate thread to post this.

[BigL]

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Are you serious? I need to check this out...

Its not every batter but it happens a few times a game. Usually its the first batter of an inning. It'll say strike in the top right so you know the AI is throwing a strike.