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Hank Conger, Chris Pettit and Reggie Willits don't wear shades when batting.

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I feel like Skip Schumaker's (2B, STL) contact should be raised across the board. From 2007-2009 he was their leadoff hitter and hit over .300 in each of those seasons. In 2010, his average dropped due to injuries and the entire team struggling offensively in the second half.

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I feel like Skip Schumaker's (2B, STL) contact should be raised across the board. From 2007-2009 he was their leadoff hitter and hit over .300 in each of those seasons. In 2010, his average dropped due to injuries and the entire team struggling offensively in the second half.

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.303 2009
.265 2010
.260 2011

I see a trend.

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Brian Wilson has a new 2 seam FB... And it's filthy

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Brian Wilson has a new 2 seam FB... And it's filthy

There are so many pitchers that do not have the correct assortment of pitches that I wouldn't get excited about one more, though Wilson is probably correct for start of season. There are loads of pitchers in this game with incorrect pitches and or speed--according to Pitch Fx.

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.303 2009
.265 2010
.260 2011

I see a trend.

You expertly left out the 2007 and 2008 years where he hit over .300. Last year he dealt with injuries, and the entire STL lineup struggled in the second half. We aren't even 20 games into this season, so I think it's a bit premature to take those into account (after all Pujols was batting <.200 up until the last 2 games or so).

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You expertly left out the 2007 and 2008 years where he hit over .300. Last year he dealt with injuries, and the entire STL lineup struggled in the second half. We aren't even 20 games into this season, so I think it's a bit premature to take those into account (after all Pujols was batting <.200 up until the last 2 games or so).

"I think it's a bit premature to take those into account"

Hence, the ratings probably shouldn't be adjusted based off two weeks of play or a "feeling" that a bottom of the order hitter is going to bounce back. Just saying.

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There are so many pitchers that do not have the correct assortment of pitches that I wouldn't get excited about one more, though Wilson is probably correct for start of season. There are loads of pitchers in this game with incorrect pitches and or speed--according to Pitch Fx.

Maybe Inside Edge and Pitch/Fx differ on definitions. 2k uses Inside Edge, not Pitch/Fx. Like how CC calls his slider a "cutter" even though it moves and behaves just like a slider. Or how pretty much any sinker could be defined a 2-seam. Or a forkball a splitter. I've seen you post this a bunch of times, but you don't actually mention which pitches are wrong or any sort of argument for making it changed. Your posts would be much more useful if you include any bit of that.

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Maybe Inside Edge and Pitch/Fx differ on definitions. 2k uses Inside Edge, not Pitch/Fx. Like how CC calls his slider a "cutter" even though it moves and behaves just like a slider. Or how pretty much any sinker could be defined a 2-seam. Or a forkball a splitter. I've seen you post this a bunch of times, but you don't actually mention which pitches are wrong or any sort of argument for making it changed. Your posts would be much more useful if you include any bit of that.

Not that simple. When Pitch Fx shows a pitcher not throwing a certain pitch for two years, I think it's safe to say he no longer throws that pitch. Pitch Fx is the most accurate site I know of to track pitches and speeds--you have one better? The Pitch Fx I'm talking about is part of FanGraphs Baseball.

I have posted what was wrong, just don't keep doing it. There are so many inaccuracies that I don't believe serious attention was done to this part of the game.

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What is the pitch most often thrown by Ubaldo Jimenez last year? A two-seam fastball. Does he throw that pitch in the game? No.

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What is the pitch most often thrown by Ubaldo Jimenez last year? A two-seam fastball. Does he throw that pitch in the game? No.

Actually, he does have a two-seam fastball in game as you requested. That's a perfect example of where you ask for a change, they make the change to the Living Roster. You also might notice that PitchFX has him only now throwing the 2-seam only 5% of the time and the splitter 32.6% in 2011 (which is how 2K had it before). Perfect example of the fuzziness of pitch definitions. So are you now recommending they switch it back based on Pitch/FX?

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Actually, he does have a two-seam fastball in game as you requested. That's a perfect example of where you ask for a change, they make the change to the Living Roster. You also might notice that PitchFX has him only now throwing the 2-seam only 5% of the time and the splitter 32.6% in 2011 (which is how 2K had it before). Perfect example of the fuzziness of pitch definitions. So are you now recommending they switch it back based on Pitch/FX?

The season just began and you want to go by one month?? If that's the case, there are lots of pitches that can be changed--especially with speed!

Look, I started a franchise and Jimenez does not have a two-seam fastball--this oversight is unbelievable! What they do in Living Rosters will not affect my franchise. There are so many pitches incorrect in this game that it boggles my mind: pitchers having pitches they don't throw, pitchers not having pitches they do throw, and speeds way off the mark.

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The season just began and you want to go by one month?? If that's the case, there are lots of pitches that can be changed--especially with speed!

Look, I started a franchise and Jimenez does not have a two-seam fastball--this oversight is unbelievable! What they do in Living Rosters will not affect my franchise. There are so many pitches incorrect in this game that it boggles my mind: pitchers having pitches they don't throw, pitchers not having pitches they do throw, and speeds way off the mark.

You don't think it's odd that his 2-seam went from 1.2% to 0.6% to 0.9% to 39.8% to 5.1%? You don't think Pitch F/X fiddled with their classifications and it's having issues tracking if it's a Splitter or a 2-Seam with a lot downward movement? Ultimately, Pitch F/X is just classifying pitches made off an educated guess based on the movement and speed of the pitch. 2K uses Inside Edge with does a similar technique. The game is consistent with Inside Edge. It's not necessarily an error on Inside Edge OR Pitch F/X if the pitches don't match up exactly. It's not an exact science and in reality pitches don't always perform exactly the same whatever you classify them anyway. If you don't like it in your existing Franchise, edit the pitch. If you don't like it online or want to start a new Franchise with the new rookies added, make a request and start a new franchise with the downloaded roster. I'm not sure what else anybody could expect.

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You don't think it's odd that his 2-seam went from 1.2% to 0.6% to 0.9% to 39.8% to 5.1%? You don't think Pitch F/X fiddled with their classifications and it's having issues tracking if it's a Splitter or a 2-Seam with a lot downward movement? Ultimately, Pitch F/X is just classifying pitches made off an educated guess based on the movement and speed of the pitch. 2K uses Inside Edge with does a similar technique. The game is consistent with Inside Edge. It's not necessarily an error on Inside Edge OR Pitch F/X if the pitches don't match up exactly. It's not an exact science and in reality pitches don't always perform exactly the same whatever you classify them anyway. If you don't like it in your existing Franchise, edit the pitch. If you don't like it online or want to start a new Franchise with the new rookies added, make a request and start a new franchise with the downloaded roster. I'm not sure what else anybody could expect.

The fact 2K changed him to a two-seam fastball proves something, at least to me it does.

I am not asking for any help, but thanks anyway.

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The fact 2K changed him to a two-seam fastball proves something, at least to me it does.

I am not asking for any help, but thanks anyway.

I think it proves they're too liberal about listening and appealing to their fans instead of trusting their sources and initial ratings. As Pitch/Fx's corrections to Jimenez prove. Hopefully our little conversation will correct that.