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  • SportsGamingBlake
    Banned
    • Feb 2012
    • 141

    #1

    Pitching Too Easy?

    Is anyone else finding that almost EVERY GAME the CPU is getting 2 runs or less?

    I have tried everything. I play with both the CPU contact and power on 100, and lower the user pitching sliders. I don't think it's an issue of the pitchers being rated too high, or the hitters rated too low... The CPU just couldn't hit if it would save their lives. The let pitches down the middle go by, or they simply swing and miss. Also, when they do hit it it is usually right to a fielder. They usually never hit home runs or deep balls in gaps. I just can't get the CPU to score. Any suggestions on how to fix it?
  • Yeats
    MVP
    • Mar 2012
    • 1581

    #2
    Re: Pitching Too Easy?

    It was discussed here the other day:

    http://www.operationsports.com/forum...ly-bugged.html

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    • JBH3
      Marvel's Finest
      • Jan 2007
      • 13506

      #3
      Originally posted by SportsGamingBlake
      Is anyone else finding that almost EVERY GAME the CPU is getting 2 runs or less?

      I have tried everything. I play with both the CPU contact and power on 100, and lower the user pitching sliders. I don't think it's an issue of the pitchers being rated too high, or the hitters rated too low... The CPU just couldn't hit if it would save their lives. The let pitches down the middle go by, or they simply swing and miss. Also, when they do hit it it is usually right to a fielder. They usually never hit home runs or deep balls in gaps. I just can't get the CPU to score. Any suggestions on how to fix it?
      Hmmm... I haven't experienced this yet but will have to look out for it. Have only played 2 games in my franchise and before that was playing online games.

      I am using Philly and have played the Pirates twice so I am expecting a low amount of runs against Halladay and Lee when facing the Pirates...and through those 2 games the Pirates only scored a collective 4 runs.

      I will have to see what its like when I pitch with Joe Blanton against the Marlins. I would expect to give up 3-4 runs with Blanton.
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      • Yeats
        MVP
        • Mar 2012
        • 1581

        #4
        Re: Pitching Too Easy?

        Originally posted by SportsGamingBlake
        I don't think it's an issue of the pitchers being rated too high
        I'd say that's probably one of the main reasons why. Try this: Create a test roster. Take one of your pitchers and lower all his pitching ratings as low as they'll go. Then pitch a couple of games with him and see if the CPU can hit him.

        Also, you didn't mention what difficulty level you're playing on. Set the sliders on the highest difficulty (legendary or whatever it's called).
        Last edited by Yeats; 03-30-2012, 02:29 PM.

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        • SportsGamingBlake
          Banned
          • Feb 2012
          • 141

          #5
          Re: Pitching Too Easy?

          Originally posted by Yeats
          I'd say that's probably one of the main reasons why. Try this: Create a test roster. Take one of your pitchers and lower all his pitching ratings as low as they'll go. Then pitch a couple of games with him and see if the CPU can hit him.

          Also, you didn't mention what difficulty level you're playing on. Set the sliders on the highest difficulty.
          Will definitely try that and will post results when i get them

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          • kpkpkp
            Banned
            • Mar 2007
            • 1733

            #6
            Re: Pitching Too Easy?

            Originally posted by SportsGamingBlake
            Is anyone else finding that almost EVERY GAME the CPU is getting 2 runs or less?

            I have tried everything. I play with both the CPU contact and power on 100, and lower the user pitching sliders. I don't think it's an issue of the pitchers being rated too high, or the hitters rated too low... The CPU just couldn't hit if it would save their lives. The let pitches down the middle go by, or they simply swing and miss. Also, when they do hit it it is usually right to a fielder. They usually never hit home runs or deep balls in gaps. I just can't get the CPU to score. Any suggestions on how to fix it?
            I think it has something to do with the difficulty you adjust from.

            If you look at MK's custom sliders, he says to adjust the difficulty sliders from all-star settings.

            I think it has something to do with the game setting caps on certain difficulty groups behind the scenes(IE pitching/fielding/hitting). This is to stop players from making un-balanced slider where you could cheese getting acheivements.

            Also it allows you to unlock acheivements while using custom rosters if you stay within these parameters.

            So, go to your sliders, set it to All-Star or Legend and then start to adjust your sliders. As soon as you make your first adjustement it will switch to saying "custom" but its important that you started with the All-Star setting.

            You will have to do this in both the main menu, and do it again in a MyPlayer or Franchise you have already started.

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            • Yeats
              MVP
              • Mar 2012
              • 1581

              #7
              Re: Pitching Too Easy?

              Originally posted by kpkpkp
              I think it has something to do with the difficulty you adjust from.

              If you look at MK's custom sliders, he says to adjust the difficulty sliders from all-star settings.

              I think it has something to do with the game setting caps on certain difficulty groups behind the scenes(IE pitching/fielding/hitting). This is to stop players from making un-balanced slider where you could cheese getting acheivements.

              Also it allows you to unlock acheivements while using custom rosters if you stay within these parameters.

              So, go to your sliders, set it to All-Star or Legend and then start to adjust your sliders. As soon as you make your first adjustement it will switch to saying "custom" but its important that you started with the All-Star setting.

              You will have to do this in both the main menu, and do it again in a MyPlayer or Franchise you have already started.
              Nice explanation. I know bigfnjoe discovered this slider trick a few years back, and I've always been interested in hearing if and how well it actually works. I'd test it myself but I never pitch, I only hit lol.

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              • kpkpkp
                Banned
                • Mar 2007
                • 1733

                #8
                Re: Pitching Too Easy?

                Originally posted by Yeats
                Nice explanation. I know bigfnjoe discovered this slider trick a few years back, and I've always been interested in hearing if and how well it actually works. I'd test it myself but I never pitch, I only hit lol.
                Yeah, if I understand the theory correctly it works like this:

                There are 5 different sliders in the "User Batting" group. At a default of 50 each for the Pro setting, the implied cap would be a total of 250 points for that group.

                SO if you set each to 100 to make it easy to hit/bunt thats groups total would suddenly become 500, meaning you are over the cap of "Pro" sliders. You have set your "custom" sliders too high to be considered Pro, and now the game considers it to be "Rookie" even though it still techincally says "Custom."

                In 2K7 it was easier to spot when you hit these thresholds because the sliders would say "Cutom-P" or "Custom-A" if your group totals had you in "Pro" or "All-Star" ranges.

                It affects how the CPU sliders are too. So if your custom slider totals by group put you in Rookie slider territory, the CPU will start to have caps on their ratings to keep them on par with you. So even if you jack up the CPU ratings to "Legend" ranges while your are at "Rookie" ranges this "rookie cap" will actually keep the CPU functioning at rookie because the balance act is being enforced behind the scenes.

                So long story short, Set it to All-Star and adjust from there, keep the Users totals so that they never total higher than what they do on All-Star default, and you will be good to go.

                There is similar coding in Madden's difficulty sliders.

                Then again, many gamers feel these theories are as justify-able as the Tooth Fairy... So... each to his own.

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                • Yeats
                  MVP
                  • Mar 2012
                  • 1581

                  #9
                  Re: Pitching Too Easy?

                  Originally posted by kpkpkp
                  Then again, many gamers feel these theories are as justify-able as the Tooth Fairy... So... each to his own.
                  You're not suggesting the Tooth Fairy isn't real I hope...

                  Heh, another great explanation, thanks.

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                  • econoodle
                    MVP
                    • Sep 2009
                    • 4884

                    #10
                    Re: Pitching Too Easy?

                    just started noticing the CPU power outage.

                    Afetr 7 games, they never had more than three runs a game.
                    I am the Yanks
                    Opponents, Rays, O's and Angels.
                    I was also getting a crazy amount of K's

                    I had the cpu power/contact at 55.

                    I moved it midway through game 8 to 60 contact 65 power and they got a double and a homer in the last five innings.
                    I am worried the higher it goes, the less grounders and such we will see.

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                    • MizzouRah
                      All Star
                      • Jul 2002
                      • 8557

                      #11
                      Re: Pitching Too Easy?

                      Reds scored 7 on me last game. I see varied scores and most have been over 3 runs.

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                      • dodgerblue
                        MVP
                        • Feb 2003
                        • 1239

                        #12
                        Re: Pitching Too Easy?

                        Offense is just not robust enough in the game.

                        I am in the process of simming out several seasons based on the 3/2 rosters and most of the offensive stats, team bat ave. ERA, HR's, runs scored.....all favor pitching.

                        I know that this thread is not about simming, but the lack of offense is a definite issue any way you look at it.
                        Last edited by dodgerblue; 03-31-2012, 12:51 PM.
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                        • wudl83
                          Pro
                          • Jun 2011
                          • 627

                          #13
                          Re: Pitching Too Easy?

                          Originally posted by dodgerblue
                          Offense is just not robust enough in the game.

                          I am in the process of simming out several seasons based on the 3/27 rosters and most of the offensive stats, team bat ave. ERA, HR's, runs scored.....all favor pitching.

                          I know that this thread is not about simming, but the lack of offense is a definite issue any way you look at it.
                          Last year was the same if I remember it right.

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                          • MizzouRah
                            All Star
                            • Jul 2002
                            • 8557

                            #14
                            Re: Pitching Too Easy?

                            Originally posted by dodgerblue
                            Offense is just not robust enough in the game.

                            I am in the process of simming out several seasons based on the 3/27 rosters and most of the offensive stats, team bat ave. ERA, HR's, runs scored.....all favor pitching.

                            I know that this thread is not about simming, but the lack of offense is a definite issue any way you look at it.
                            Console sports games have never been good several seasons down the road, if you like to sim, I would suggest OOTP. Games like these are meant to me played and offer short term realistic stats, but nothing long term.

                            I sim like a mad man with OOTP, it's an excellent baseball sim. I don't even think The Show would give you realistic long term statistics.

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                            • wudl83
                              Pro
                              • Jun 2011
                              • 627

                              #15
                              Re: Pitching Too Easy?

                              Originally posted by MizzouRah
                              Console sports games have never been good several seasons down the road, if you like to sim, I would suggest OOTP. Games like these are meant to me played and offer short term realistic stats, but nothing long term.

                              I sim like a mad man with OOTP, it's an excellent baseball sim. I don't even think The Show would give you realistic long term statistics.
                              Even short term simmings produce unrealistic stats. That has nothing to do with short ort long term.

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