Do you know how the AI calculates...

[Yeats]

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The only problem I have with this are e.g. guys like Carlos Gonzalez or Melky Cabrera, which would get a 50 CF ability although they played CF large parts of their career. But well...seems to be a question of either/or.

But that's a whole different programming thing. First and foremost you want them playing in their current MLB positions, that's the editing priority.

Now, I'm guessing it's possible to edit ratings so that the CPU will sub in the higher offensive guy from the bench, and then move one of the starters into their secondary fielding position. Example: Say you want Melky Cabrera to play LF 100 games and CF 50 games a year. You make his LF fielding rating 100 and his CF fielding rating 60. Then you edit the bench player who plays LF and make him useful offensively against left-handed pitchers only. The CPU will set the lineup so that when a lefty pitcher is on the mound, it will put the bench player in LF and move Cabrera to CF. Providing of course that Melky's offensive and fielding ratings as the starting CF are the most attractive to the CPU.

That's the sort of massive editing/tweaking project you're looking at. But I believe it will work, in fact I'm going to go test that right now.

[Yeats]

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wudl, my experiment worked. It took me three tries to get it right, so it does take some time and adjustment. But I was able to set players' contact and fielding ratings so that the starting LF moved to CF against lefty pitching, while in turn the bench LF became the LF starter. The thing is it's all dependent on a combination/balancing of hitting versus fielding ratings. There's probably a formula that becomes apparent the more you test this, so I imagine it becomes easier and quicker to tweak as you go along.

[wudl83]

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Great! Thank you very very much!

That means you lowered the starting CF leftie-contact, and made the LF-bench guy's leftie-contact higher, right?
And then the CPU switched Melky into CF and the LF-bench guy into the starting lineup?

Great news...when I figure it out by myself how it works I possibly could bring out the most realistic rosters available.

[Yeats]

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That means you lowered the starting CF leftie-contact, and made the LF-bench guy's leftie-contact higher, right?

And then the CPU switched Melky into CF and the LF-bench guy into the starting lineup?

Yes and yes. But it was also dependent on their fielding ratings in relation to each other. And the only two ratings I adjusted were their contact (Batting Vs) and fielding (As LF, As CF). Hopefully that's all it takes.

[elimack]

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I too used Fangraphs to determine fielding abilities, yet I didn't have the same issue with realignment. The best fielders (usually the player played regularly at X pos. played).

Batting order is a whole different animal, but it would appear to me Yeats has shed an extremely bright light upon it.

I've been busy and haven't had a chance the chance to begin editing fielding abilities. So I'm sure you guys will have these figured out by the time I get around to it, As I often like to wait until most real life rosters have settled into a consistent pattern (Madden and Scosia excluded of course).

[elimack]

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Yes, to tone down the secondary positions is one possibility. But I don't like this too much since this would e.g. mean that Carlos Gonzalez, who played the major part of his career in CF, won't be able to do this adequatly anymore.
But by now this is the only way to regulate this.

Thanks for your tests!

With this I'd disagree, if you stay true to UZR, DSR, UZR/10 numbers things usually even out. In fact, most cases show you why players no longer play the position they have in the past.

[HypeGG]

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Noticed Adam Dunn was put in RF..

[Yeats]

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Noticed Adam Dunn was put in RF..

Somebody edit that dude!

[wudl83]

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Noticed Adam Dunn was put in RF..

When? Yesterday? Fukudome played RF, Dunn DH.

http://mlb.mlb.com/mlb/gameday/index****p?gid=2012_04_11_chamlb_clemlb_1&mode=box

Or did you notice INGAME that they put him there?

With this I'd disagree, if you stay true to UZR, DSR, UZR/10 numbers things usually even out. In fact, most cases show you why players no longer play the position they have in the past.

Okay, I will take that into account. Thanks.

[Yeats]

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Okay, I will take that into account. Thanks.

Did you edit Melky and the SF outfielders yet? Did you get it to work? C'mon, we want an update!

[Vince]

Joe Maddob put Carlos Pena at the 2hole a few days ago. Just saying

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[Yeats]

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Joe Maddob put Carlos Pena at the 2hole a few days ago.

Yeah well Joe Maddob's a clueless num.

[wudl83]

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Did you edit Melky and the SF outfielders yet? Did you get it to work? C'mon, we want an update!

Yap, I found it out. Not all can be accomplished, but I was able to give the Dbacks, Giants, Rockies, Padres and Dodgers adequate position alignments calculated by the AI without messing it up by the AI itself.
The lineups also look much better now. There are minor things which simply can't be changed without too big of a loss of realism, but I'll be fine with that.
Thanks for your big help.

E.g. the Dbacks play Bloomquist leadoff against RHP, and Roberts against LHP.
Or the Rockies play Nelson 3B vs. RHP and Pacheco vs. LHP.

To be honest, the biggest problem I had with the AI calculating weren't the lineups, but the positions. Seems it works fine now .

It could have cost me finishing the NL Central by now. I only have adequate rosters and player ratings for the NL West including the AAA affiliates and some prospects, but well, my work will be a work in progress.

[K33057]

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I know this is an old thread, but I had to comment. I thought one of the selling points of the New systems-Xbox1/PS4 was the games be it ANY sport would play more like the real games. I/E the Coaches or Managers would manage Real(the AL that is)..