MLB 2K13 Announced with Cover Athlete David Price, Arrives March 5th

[SoxFan01605]

Re: MLB 2K13 Announced with Cover Athlete David Price, Arrives March 5th

Actually 2k8 was made by someone named Blue Castle...Kush was gone after 2k7....And yeah I can agree and disagree with the way it played, because they tried the analog stuff with 2k7 and it wasn't good...I switched back to classic and it was fine. I do know you had more control on the outfield in 2k7 and the cutscenes didn't stick like they do in the later games. 2k7 had it's issues.

But other titles of BB Games I won't mention here have proved you can get graphics and gameplay.

No reason after 5 years they couldn't get back to 2k7 level of visuals and have current control systems. Also Kush got the color palettes right! Why is it no matter what game VC puts it's hands on, Red becomes Pink...and so forth...Navy Blue is grey, etc?

We just want the best for this series, and one reason competition is considered so much better is because of the lack of the visual attraction. Gameplay is good, Presentation is Perfect / Flawless, and gameplay modes are plenty....Even the PC version's online was great.....

But visually it's a ugly bitch with a nice personality.....lol

We need that portion to be fixed.

No, 2K8 was still made by Kush. They just changed their name to 2KLA. As I recall, Blue Castle came in to help finish it, but the game was still primarily developed by Kush/2KLA.

And I agree 100% about the visuals, especially the color palette. VC is terrible in this regard on this series AND NBA2K (though, to be clear, the colors were bad in 2K8 as well, where the Red Sox "red" was actually maroon). Graphics should be much better at this point. You can punch them up a lot on PC, but it still has that overall "cartoony" feel in a lot of ways (except for the stadiums. I think some of them are fantastic).

I also 100% agree that you can have both graphics and game play and am certainly not saying that they couldn't have gotten back to 2K7 levels of player graphics. My point was that 2K7, as good as it looked and as much as I liked it, would not have made a good base, as it was, from all indications, poorly designed at its core.

Really, the issue comes down to poor planning and poor design. As I said, they essentially built the game backwards. Plus, by the time VC took over and landed on a direction, it was pretty much too late. That said, I think, aside from visuals, VC has helped the franchise a lot in terms of focus and quality. The series was a joke a few years ago. It's at least viable now. Hopefully they come back stronger next gen, as I do like some of what the 2K series does.

Ugly bitch with a nice personality sums it up pretty well though...lol. I agree that they need to fix that. I just don't see it happening this gen (if at all).

[tonadom]

Re: MLB 2K13 Announced with Cover Athlete David Price, Arrives March 5th

lol...someone clamoring for Kush to return. That's a first!

The reason 2K8 (still developed by your beloved Kush, which wasn't closed until they had already begun work on 2K9) looked like crap is because they didn't build a solid foundation with 2K7...

My beloved Kush ? All I'm saying is they put more effort into MLB 2K than VC does. If that makes me a target on this forum, then fire away. I really don't care. It's what I think.

[SoxFan01605]

Re: MLB 2K13 Announced with Cover Athlete David Price, Arrives March 5th

My beloved Kush ? All I'm saying is they put more effort into MLB 2K than VC does. If that makes me a target on this forum, then fire away. I really don't care. It's what I think.

lol... I did not make you a personal target nor do I represent this or any forum, so you should be free from targeting there as well.

The "beloved Kush" comment was light-hearted as you had the timeline of their involvement wrong and it's simply rare to find anyone who has followed this series actually praising Kush's job with it. So, if you took that wrong, I apologize. I wasn't arguing your opinion about effort (which you never mentioned in the post I quoted anyway). You implied the graphics went down hill when Kush "left." I simply responded to your incorrect information about that and explained the nature of VC taking over development.

Now, as for "effort" I think it's impossible to quantify in this case. Kush had the game when it was a priority and before nearly every 2K Sports franchise started dropping due to finances. VC was given a partially-started game to reboot and has had their budget and focus reduced each year. Hell, 2K9 didn't even have a dedicated team for it at first. That's not to say that VC has done everything right. Far from it. It's only to point out the circumstances are far different. That's really not an issue of developer effort, that's a broader issue of corporate priority.

I don't think anyone is saying that the MLB 2K series has been everything it could, or even should be. Ultimately though, my opinion on the two developer's respective contributions aside, it's not even an issue of VC vs Kush. If you look at when the promise of the series started to fade, it's not in-line with a developer switch, it's in-line with 2K making cuts across the board. Nothing either Kush or VC could really do about that. 2K put itself in this position regardless of who actually worked on the game by a knee-jerk overpay for the license and not having a clear plan on how to transition the franchise to this generation.

[pistolpete]

Re: MLB 2K13 Announced with Cover Athlete David Price, Arrives March 5th

It's taken me two years but I absolutely love 2k11 on the 360 now.

[MSNemitz]

Re: MLB 2K13 Announced with Cover Athlete David Price, Arrives March 5th

Im sorry if this was already asked, Im at work and couldnt read through all the pages. Will MLB 2k13 have an online Franchise like NBA2k13's Online Assosication ???

[tvman]

Re: MLB 2K13 Announced with Cover Athlete David Price, Arrives March 5th

Im sorry if this was already asked, Im at work and couldnt read through all the pages. Will MLB 2k13 have an online Franchise like NBA2k13's Online Assosication ???

So far nothing new has been announced.

[CMH]

Re: MLB 2K13 Announced with Cover Athlete David Price, Arrives March 5th

David Price is a nice pick.

I've always liked this series but cannot stand the difference between contact and power swings. I wish contact could still generate a realistic amount of home runs while power was a Matt Stairs-like approach.

For whatever reason, this series does not think that way and I refuse to play a baseball game that approaches hitting in such a poor way.

[Money99]

Re: MLB 2K13 Announced with Cover Athlete David Price, Arrives March 5th

David Price is a nice pick.

I've always liked this series but cannot stand the difference between contact and power swings. I wish contact could still generate a realistic amount of home runs while power was a Matt Stairs-like approach.

For whatever reason, this series does not think that way and I refuse to play a baseball game that approaches hitting in such a poor way.

I agree. That's why I went with classic hitting and bumped up power a bit.
But it's still not perfect and could use some work.

[rudyjuly2]

Re: MLB 2K13 Announced with Cover Athlete David Price, Arrives March 5th

I've always liked this series but cannot stand the difference between contact and power swings. I wish contact could still generate a realistic amount of home runs while power was a Matt Stairs-like approach.

For whatever reason, this series does not think that way and I refuse to play a baseball game that approaches hitting in such a poor way.

I think the only way to fix this ourselves would be if they offered batting sliders for each hit type. That way we could juice the contact swing more and also tone down the contact success. Right now the huge gap ends up resulting in too much of an all or nothing arcade result.

[Mt Oread]

Re: MLB 2K13 Announced with Cover Athlete David Price, Arrives March 5th

David Price is a nice pick.

I've always liked this series but cannot stand the difference between contact and power swings. I wish contact could still generate a realistic amount of home runs while power was a Matt Stairs-like approach.

For whatever reason, this series does not think that way and I refuse to play a baseball game that approaches hitting in such a poor way.

I bump up up power, and then use contact and power for all hitters depending on situation. Instead of thinking of power as trying to hit a homerun, think of it as the ability to focus on one spot and muscle up a bit.

Basically, if I have a 2-0 or 3-1 count, no matter who is batting, I go power swing. That's because the odds of a fastball strike are greater. It is also less painful to let a breaking ball or strike in a zone you aren't looking for go. This exactly how you should approach hitting in real life.

Otherwise, I use the contact swing. The only exception would be when I have a guy hitting in the 3 through 6 spot in the order up, with 2 outs and no one in scoring position. Again, the downside of failing here is small enough that taking a chance is worth it.

Contrary to popular opinion, power vs contact has no effect on flyballs or groundballs. It effects how hard they are hit. It also affects the size of the hit window that helps decide the result.

I get very realistic results, including home runs with both contact and power swings. If you use the LS to go with a pitch, which helps you turn on an inside pitch, or keep your shoulder in to go the other way on an outside pitch, you will start to get better results with your contact swings.

I have not gotten good results ever from going up or down with the LS on high or low pitches. I do use the LS to force the ball the other way on hit and runs at times.

When you add the info from inside edge, the batter's eye info that pops up more often for better hitters, I think and make so many realistic decisions while hitting on every pitch.

I think 2K's biggest fail is not explaining it's batting system more in-depth. It's deep and super realistic, both in how it forces you to think like a hitter and the results I get.

[destructocid]

Re: MLB 2K13 Announced with Cover Athlete David Price, Arrives March 5th

I've heard so many people rave about 2K7, but never played it myself.
I was wondering what that game did right? What made that game so great?

There was basically a huge leap from 2k6 to 2k7. It was by no means a perfect game, but it was absolutely on the right track. It felt like baseball, it looked like baseball. It was the first MLB game that felt "next gen" and unfortunately that leap forward was followed by a step back in 2k8. The graphics weren't as good, the lighting, just didn't look as crisp and likewise there were frame rate issues and it just felt like an unfinished game. Like they literally forgot/or didn't have time to apply the finishing touches. Then I think Ben brinkmen left and immediately in 2k9 player models suffered and I don't know, it just changed drastically. It was as dramatic a change as this, I went from thinking that 2k7 was the best MLB game to date, to spending one month with 2k8 before getting a ps3 and the show. And I'm not a show "fanboy" I'm a MLB fanboy and you better believe I want nothing more as far as gaming goes, then two have two great, competing MLB games to choose from, from year to year. So I would love for 2k to turn this thing around, and I think they will. It's just going to take some time.


"than to have" damn spellcheck

[FT-Mac]

Re: MLB 2K13 Announced with Cover Athlete David Price, Arrives March 5th

Any news if MLB 2k13 will be available in Europe? As 2k11 was...

[BustinLoose]

Re: MLB 2K13 Announced with Cover Athlete David Price, Arrives March 5th

Sucks it's only available on the consoles. Why did they abandon the PC version? You can mod the PC version, which has the advantage over the consoles in graphics as well. Bad move to drop the PC version, but it's all about the money.

[Riotboy]

Re: MLB 2K13 Announced with Cover Athlete David Price, Arrives March 5th

There was basically a huge leap from 2k6 to 2k7. It was by no means a perfect game, but it was absolutely on the right track. It felt like baseball, it looked like baseball. It was the first MLB game that felt "next gen" and unfortunately that leap forward was followed by a step back in 2k8. The graphics weren't as good, the lighting, just didn't look as crisp and likewise there were frame rate issues and it just felt like an unfinished game. Like they literally forgot/or didn't have time to apply the finishing touches. Then I think Ben brinkmen left and immediately in 2k9 player models suffered and I don't know, it just changed drastically. It was as dramatic a change as this, I went from thinking that 2k7 was the best MLB game to date, to spending one month with 2k8 before getting a ps3 and the show. And I'm not a show "fanboy" I'm a MLB fanboy and you better believe I want nothing more as far as gaming goes, then two have two great, competing MLB games to choose from, from year to year. So I would love for 2k to turn this thing around, and I think they will. It's just going to take some time.


"than to have" damn spellcheck

THIS.

MLB 2K13 graphics look PS2-ish, I'll pass on baseball again this year. Needing a gimmick to sell a game instead of making a better game is not the way to go. I wish The Show was for Xbox those graphics/gameplay look GREAT. I miss the 2K7 days.

[Money99]

Re: MLB 2K13 Announced with Cover Athlete David Price, Arrives March 5th

Which 2K game has the flapping jersey's? I couldn't play more than a couple of innings because of the distraction, haha.