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  • FatPitcher
    *SPN B*s*b*ll
    • Jul 2002
    • 885

    #61
    Re: I must say not being able to use roster updates is a bummer!

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    Virix said:
    I really enjoyed WSB last year and couldnt wait to hop online with this years version but this has pushed me over to ASB. I wish the devs would take this stuff a little more seriously. How do they expect us to get any online replay value? Oh well, one less customer wont kill them I guess...

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    We take everything seriously. If you saw the numbers on how much it costs to put in online play, how many people will actually use it regularly, and what we had to sacrifice that would have benefitted the game as a whole just to please this very, very small percentage of the customer base, you would understand why we haven't put all the possible bells and whistles into the online mode.

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    • MuffinMcFluffin
      Banned
      • Feb 2003
      • 4215

      #62
      Re: I must say not being able to use roster updates is a bummer!

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      FatPitcher said:
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      Virix said:
      I really enjoyed WSB last year and couldnt wait to hop online with this years version but this has pushed me over to ASB. I wish the devs would take this stuff a little more seriously. How do they expect us to get any online replay value? Oh well, one less customer wont kill them I guess...

      <hr /></blockquote><font class="post">

      We take everything seriously. If you saw the numbers on how much it costs to put in online play, how many people will actually use it regularly, and what we had to sacrifice that would have benefitted the game as a whole just to please this very, very small percentage of the customer base, you would understand why we haven't put all the possible bells and whistles into the online mode.

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      Hmm, you do make a great point!

      However, you said that online leagues for the PS2 were undecided... can you confirm its status?

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      • MuffinMcFluffin
        Banned
        • Feb 2003
        • 4215

        #63
        Re: I must say not being able to use roster updates is a bummer!

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        FatPitcher said:
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        Virix said:
        I really enjoyed WSB last year and couldnt wait to hop online with this years version but this has pushed me over to ASB. I wish the devs would take this stuff a little more seriously. How do they expect us to get any online replay value? Oh well, one less customer wont kill them I guess...

        <hr /></blockquote><font class="post">

        We take everything seriously. If you saw the numbers on how much it costs to put in online play, how many people will actually use it regularly, and what we had to sacrifice that would have benefitted the game as a whole just to please this very, very small percentage of the customer base, you would understand why we haven't put all the possible bells and whistles into the online mode.

        <hr /></blockquote><font class="post">

        Hmm, you do make a great point!

        However, you said that online leagues for the PS2 were undecided... can you confirm its status?

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        • MuffinMcFluffin
          Banned
          • Feb 2003
          • 4215

          #64
          Re: I must say not being able to use roster updates is a bummer!

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          FatPitcher said:
          </font><blockquote><font class="small">Quote:</font><hr />
          Virix said:
          I really enjoyed WSB last year and couldnt wait to hop online with this years version but this has pushed me over to ASB. I wish the devs would take this stuff a little more seriously. How do they expect us to get any online replay value? Oh well, one less customer wont kill them I guess...

          <hr /></blockquote><font class="post">

          We take everything seriously. If you saw the numbers on how much it costs to put in online play, how many people will actually use it regularly, and what we had to sacrifice that would have benefitted the game as a whole just to please this very, very small percentage of the customer base, you would understand why we haven't put all the possible bells and whistles into the online mode.

          <hr /></blockquote><font class="post">

          Hmm, you do make a great point!

          However, you said that online leagues for the PS2 were undecided... can you confirm its status?

          Comment

          • Virix
            MVP
            • Aug 2002
            • 1007

            #65
            Re: I must say not being able to use roster updates is a bummer!

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            FatPitcher said:
            </font><blockquote><font class="small">Quote:</font><hr />
            Virix said:
            I really enjoyed WSB last year and couldnt wait to hop online with this years version but this has pushed me over to ASB. I wish the devs would take this stuff a little more seriously. How do they expect us to get any online replay value? Oh well, one less customer wont kill them I guess...

            <hr /></blockquote><font class="post">

            We take everything seriously. If you saw the numbers on how much it costs to put in online play, how many people will actually use it regularly, and what we had to sacrifice that would have benefitted the game as a whole just to please this very, very small percentage of the customer base, you would understand why we haven't put all the possible bells and whistles into the online mode.

            <hr /></blockquote><font class="post">

            Im sure I dont understand the sacrifices that you have to make to make a game playable online. But why do you guys do it? To compete with other compaines who support online play correct? Well how can we be expected to use the function if the rosters are so out of date? I know its only a small percentage of the ESPN customers that use the online function, but Im sure those numbers would rise if the rosters that are used in online play were accurate when the game was released. Something that didnt happen with ANY ESPN games this season.

            You guys have the system in place to make a mandatory patch that everyone must download to play on Xbox Live. Am I missing something or couldnt you just issue a roster patch with the system that is already in place?

            Im just pretty bummed about this because I was really looking forward to this game.

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            • Virix
              MVP
              • Aug 2002
              • 1007

              #66
              Re: I must say not being able to use roster updates is a bummer!

              </font><blockquote><font class="small">Quote:</font><hr />
              FatPitcher said:
              </font><blockquote><font class="small">Quote:</font><hr />
              Virix said:
              I really enjoyed WSB last year and couldnt wait to hop online with this years version but this has pushed me over to ASB. I wish the devs would take this stuff a little more seriously. How do they expect us to get any online replay value? Oh well, one less customer wont kill them I guess...

              <hr /></blockquote><font class="post">

              We take everything seriously. If you saw the numbers on how much it costs to put in online play, how many people will actually use it regularly, and what we had to sacrifice that would have benefitted the game as a whole just to please this very, very small percentage of the customer base, you would understand why we haven't put all the possible bells and whistles into the online mode.

              <hr /></blockquote><font class="post">

              Im sure I dont understand the sacrifices that you have to make to make a game playable online. But why do you guys do it? To compete with other compaines who support online play correct? Well how can we be expected to use the function if the rosters are so out of date? I know its only a small percentage of the ESPN customers that use the online function, but Im sure those numbers would rise if the rosters that are used in online play were accurate when the game was released. Something that didnt happen with ANY ESPN games this season.

              You guys have the system in place to make a mandatory patch that everyone must download to play on Xbox Live. Am I missing something or couldnt you just issue a roster patch with the system that is already in place?

              Im just pretty bummed about this because I was really looking forward to this game.

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              • Virix
                MVP
                • Aug 2002
                • 1007

                #67
                Re: I must say not being able to use roster updates is a bummer!

                </font><blockquote><font class="small">Quote:</font><hr />
                FatPitcher said:
                </font><blockquote><font class="small">Quote:</font><hr />
                Virix said:
                I really enjoyed WSB last year and couldnt wait to hop online with this years version but this has pushed me over to ASB. I wish the devs would take this stuff a little more seriously. How do they expect us to get any online replay value? Oh well, one less customer wont kill them I guess...

                <hr /></blockquote><font class="post">

                We take everything seriously. If you saw the numbers on how much it costs to put in online play, how many people will actually use it regularly, and what we had to sacrifice that would have benefitted the game as a whole just to please this very, very small percentage of the customer base, you would understand why we haven't put all the possible bells and whistles into the online mode.

                <hr /></blockquote><font class="post">

                Im sure I dont understand the sacrifices that you have to make to make a game playable online. But why do you guys do it? To compete with other compaines who support online play correct? Well how can we be expected to use the function if the rosters are so out of date? I know its only a small percentage of the ESPN customers that use the online function, but Im sure those numbers would rise if the rosters that are used in online play were accurate when the game was released. Something that didnt happen with ANY ESPN games this season.

                You guys have the system in place to make a mandatory patch that everyone must download to play on Xbox Live. Am I missing something or couldnt you just issue a roster patch with the system that is already in place?

                Im just pretty bummed about this because I was really looking forward to this game.

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                • SoMiss2000
                  Hall Of Fame
                  • Oct 2002
                  • 20499

                  #68
                  Re: I must say not being able to use roster updates is a bummer!

                  </font><blockquote><font class="small">Quote:</font><hr />
                  Virix said:
                  </font><blockquote><font class="small">Quote:</font><hr />
                  FatPitcher said:
                  </font><blockquote><font class="small">Quote:</font><hr />
                  Virix said:
                  I really enjoyed WSB last year and couldnt wait to hop online with this years version but this has pushed me over to ASB. I wish the devs would take this stuff a little more seriously. How do they expect us to get any online replay value? Oh well, one less customer wont kill them I guess...

                  <hr /></blockquote><font class="post">

                  We take everything seriously. If you saw the numbers on how much it costs to put in online play, how many people will actually use it regularly, and what we had to sacrifice that would have benefitted the game as a whole just to please this very, very small percentage of the customer base, you would understand why we haven't put all the possible bells and whistles into the online mode.

                  <hr /></blockquote><font class="post">

                  Im sure I dont understand the sacrifices that you have to make to make a game playable online. But why do you guys do it? To compete with other compaines who support online play correct? Well how can we be expected to use the function if the rosters are so out of date? I know its only a small percentage of the ESPN customers that use the online function, but Im sure those numbers would rise if the rosters that are used in online play were accurate when the game was released. Something that didnt happen with ANY ESPN games this season.

                  You guys have the system in place to make a mandatory patch that everyone must download to play on Xbox Live. Am I missing something or couldnt you just issue a roster patch with the system that is already in place?

                  Im just pretty bummed about this because I was really looking forward to this game.

                  <hr /></blockquote><font class="post">Hell, either you do the online play right, or don't do it at all. It's really that simple.
                  "Never trust a big butt and a smile."-Ricky Bell
                  Check out www.sliderset.net



                  Currently Listening: The D.O.C.: No One Can Do It Better (evidence that rap music used to be good!)

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                  • SoMiss2000
                    Hall Of Fame
                    • Oct 2002
                    • 20499

                    #69
                    Re: I must say not being able to use roster updates is a bummer!

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                    Virix said:
                    </font><blockquote><font class="small">Quote:</font><hr />
                    FatPitcher said:
                    </font><blockquote><font class="small">Quote:</font><hr />
                    Virix said:
                    I really enjoyed WSB last year and couldnt wait to hop online with this years version but this has pushed me over to ASB. I wish the devs would take this stuff a little more seriously. How do they expect us to get any online replay value? Oh well, one less customer wont kill them I guess...

                    <hr /></blockquote><font class="post">

                    We take everything seriously. If you saw the numbers on how much it costs to put in online play, how many people will actually use it regularly, and what we had to sacrifice that would have benefitted the game as a whole just to please this very, very small percentage of the customer base, you would understand why we haven't put all the possible bells and whistles into the online mode.

                    <hr /></blockquote><font class="post">

                    Im sure I dont understand the sacrifices that you have to make to make a game playable online. But why do you guys do it? To compete with other compaines who support online play correct? Well how can we be expected to use the function if the rosters are so out of date? I know its only a small percentage of the ESPN customers that use the online function, but Im sure those numbers would rise if the rosters that are used in online play were accurate when the game was released. Something that didnt happen with ANY ESPN games this season.

                    You guys have the system in place to make a mandatory patch that everyone must download to play on Xbox Live. Am I missing something or couldnt you just issue a roster patch with the system that is already in place?

                    Im just pretty bummed about this because I was really looking forward to this game.

                    <hr /></blockquote><font class="post">Hell, either you do the online play right, or don't do it at all. It's really that simple.
                    "Never trust a big butt and a smile."-Ricky Bell
                    Check out www.sliderset.net



                    Currently Listening: The D.O.C.: No One Can Do It Better (evidence that rap music used to be good!)

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                    • SoMiss2000
                      Hall Of Fame
                      • Oct 2002
                      • 20499

                      #70
                      Re: I must say not being able to use roster updates is a bummer!

                      </font><blockquote><font class="small">Quote:</font><hr />
                      Virix said:
                      </font><blockquote><font class="small">Quote:</font><hr />
                      FatPitcher said:
                      </font><blockquote><font class="small">Quote:</font><hr />
                      Virix said:
                      I really enjoyed WSB last year and couldnt wait to hop online with this years version but this has pushed me over to ASB. I wish the devs would take this stuff a little more seriously. How do they expect us to get any online replay value? Oh well, one less customer wont kill them I guess...

                      <hr /></blockquote><font class="post">

                      We take everything seriously. If you saw the numbers on how much it costs to put in online play, how many people will actually use it regularly, and what we had to sacrifice that would have benefitted the game as a whole just to please this very, very small percentage of the customer base, you would understand why we haven't put all the possible bells and whistles into the online mode.

                      <hr /></blockquote><font class="post">

                      Im sure I dont understand the sacrifices that you have to make to make a game playable online. But why do you guys do it? To compete with other compaines who support online play correct? Well how can we be expected to use the function if the rosters are so out of date? I know its only a small percentage of the ESPN customers that use the online function, but Im sure those numbers would rise if the rosters that are used in online play were accurate when the game was released. Something that didnt happen with ANY ESPN games this season.

                      You guys have the system in place to make a mandatory patch that everyone must download to play on Xbox Live. Am I missing something or couldnt you just issue a roster patch with the system that is already in place?

                      Im just pretty bummed about this because I was really looking forward to this game.

                      <hr /></blockquote><font class="post">Hell, either you do the online play right, or don't do it at all. It's really that simple.
                      "Never trust a big butt and a smile."-Ricky Bell
                      Check out www.sliderset.net



                      Currently Listening: The D.O.C.: No One Can Do It Better (evidence that rap music used to be good!)

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                      • Pared
                        Legen - WAIT FOR IT
                        • Feb 2003
                        • 39337

                        #71
                        Re: I must say not being able to use roster updates is a bummer!

                        </font><blockquote><font class="small">Quote:</font><hr />
                        Virix said:
                        Im sure I dont understand the sacrifices that you have to make to make a game playable online. But why do you guys do it? To compete with other compaines who support online play correct? Well how can we be expected to use the function if the rosters are so out of date? I know its only a small percentage of the ESPN customers that use the online function, but Im sure those numbers would rise if the rosters that are used in online play were accurate when the game was released. Something that didnt happen with ANY ESPN games this season.

                        You guys have the system in place to make a mandatory patch that everyone must download to play on Xbox Live. Am I missing something or couldnt you just issue a roster patch with the system that is already in place?

                        Im just pretty bummed about this because I was really looking forward to this game.

                        <hr /></blockquote><font class="post">

                        Great post!

                        Listen up Sega, and listen well. When you're wondering why you're the 3rd or 4th selling baseball game out there...
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                          #72
                          Re: I must say not being able to use roster updates is a bummer!

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                          Virix said:
                          Im sure I dont understand the sacrifices that you have to make to make a game playable online. But why do you guys do it? To compete with other compaines who support online play correct? Well how can we be expected to use the function if the rosters are so out of date? I know its only a small percentage of the ESPN customers that use the online function, but Im sure those numbers would rise if the rosters that are used in online play were accurate when the game was released. Something that didnt happen with ANY ESPN games this season.

                          You guys have the system in place to make a mandatory patch that everyone must download to play on Xbox Live. Am I missing something or couldnt you just issue a roster patch with the system that is already in place?

                          Im just pretty bummed about this because I was really looking forward to this game.

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                          Great post!

                          Listen up Sega, and listen well. When you're wondering why you're the 3rd or 4th selling baseball game out there...
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                          • Pared
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                            • Feb 2003
                            • 39337

                            #73
                            Re: I must say not being able to use roster updates is a bummer!

                            </font><blockquote><font class="small">Quote:</font><hr />
                            Virix said:
                            Im sure I dont understand the sacrifices that you have to make to make a game playable online. But why do you guys do it? To compete with other compaines who support online play correct? Well how can we be expected to use the function if the rosters are so out of date? I know its only a small percentage of the ESPN customers that use the online function, but Im sure those numbers would rise if the rosters that are used in online play were accurate when the game was released. Something that didnt happen with ANY ESPN games this season.

                            You guys have the system in place to make a mandatory patch that everyone must download to play on Xbox Live. Am I missing something or couldnt you just issue a roster patch with the system that is already in place?

                            Im just pretty bummed about this because I was really looking forward to this game.

                            <hr /></blockquote><font class="post">

                            Great post!

                            Listen up Sega, and listen well. When you're wondering why you're the 3rd or 4th selling baseball game out there...
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                            • ps2baseball
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                              • Mar 2003
                              • 1460

                              #74
                              Re: I must say not being able to use roster updates is a bummer!

                              Pared,

                              Great post man. Those are my thoughts exactly. If you ARE going to have online play then DO IT RIGHT, or don't do it at all. I too don't understand the operational procedures behind these games, and realize EA is working with more money. That is fine. But why spend the money to create online playability but then half-a55 it? Football is the only sport to me that doesn't need updated rosters to play online. Sure, they help with injuries, but the player movement is minimal. In the 3 other sports you need online roster updates to be successful. If I were Sega I'd have made online play available for football only.

                              Thanks FP for chiming in on this too by the way. I am a PS2 owner (can't you tell) so sometimes I overlook the XBox online situation (namely with EA). The one thing that does amaze me is going online with a game like NASCAR or SSX and seeing &lt;100 onlne. That is a SMAAAAAAL percentage of the people who actually purchased these games.

                              I have been round the horn with the baseball titles. I can honestly say in 15 years of baseball gaming, I have had love affairs with them all: RBI, Bases Loaded, High Heat, MLB, ASB, etc etc. It seems like every year I take a liking to a new series. Unlike the ther sports, I don't seem to have any loyality towards the games. That being said, last year WS2k4 was maybe the best looking game that also played well. I am sure it will look nice this year, but it seems as if Sega has taken the "Madden" approach and MVP has stepped up. I guess we'll know in about 5 weeks.

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                              • ps2baseball
                                *S r*s*d*nt s*ck *xp*rt
                                • Mar 2003
                                • 1460

                                #75
                                Re: I must say not being able to use roster updates is a bummer!

                                Pared,

                                Great post man. Those are my thoughts exactly. If you ARE going to have online play then DO IT RIGHT, or don't do it at all. I too don't understand the operational procedures behind these games, and realize EA is working with more money. That is fine. But why spend the money to create online playability but then half-a55 it? Football is the only sport to me that doesn't need updated rosters to play online. Sure, they help with injuries, but the player movement is minimal. In the 3 other sports you need online roster updates to be successful. If I were Sega I'd have made online play available for football only.

                                Thanks FP for chiming in on this too by the way. I am a PS2 owner (can't you tell) so sometimes I overlook the XBox online situation (namely with EA). The one thing that does amaze me is going online with a game like NASCAR or SSX and seeing &lt;100 onlne. That is a SMAAAAAAL percentage of the people who actually purchased these games.

                                I have been round the horn with the baseball titles. I can honestly say in 15 years of baseball gaming, I have had love affairs with them all: RBI, Bases Loaded, High Heat, MLB, ASB, etc etc. It seems like every year I take a liking to a new series. Unlike the ther sports, I don't seem to have any loyality towards the games. That being said, last year WS2k4 was maybe the best looking game that also played well. I am sure it will look nice this year, but it seems as if Sega has taken the "Madden" approach and MVP has stepped up. I guess we'll know in about 5 weeks.

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