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  • PatsFan
    Banned
    • Feb 2004
    • 204

    #1

    True swing is flawed

    If a pitch comes inside, and I swing outside, why do I always miss the ball? Does the bat not still hit the ball? Shouldn't a hit still occur(albeit a bad hit, foul, dribbler, popup)? Sega's decision to make the batter swing exactly where the ball is pitched is both stupid and flawed. I hope it's only this way in the demo and will be more realistic in the final.

    Some things I do love from the demo: pulling the first baseman off the base on high throws (I wish I knew why I pulled him off the bag. Bad throws appear to be completely random occurrences in ESPN, while they happen for a reason in MVP), the base coaches jumping out of the way.

    Sega should study EA's replays. Especially on homeruns. ESPN's are extremely lackluster. You mainly just see a replay of the swing, and then you see the ball as it clears the wall for a second. Yawn. I've also always despised baseball games that tell me when it's time to pitch again. If I want to throw the ball around the bases, LET ME.
  • MuffinMcFluffin
    Banned
    • Feb 2003
    • 4215

    #2
    Re: True swing is flawed

    IMO, if there was contact like that, then there might be TOO much in the game. I definitely understand what you are saying though, so it makes sense. However, go to the replay and see if the ball goes through the bat. If it does, then it should be fixed (many of them should result in broken bats if the pitch is fast enough).

    I also hear that after the third out, the players will throw the ball in the stands. That sounds cool.

    I DEFINITELY agree on replays. CHANGE THEM!!!

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    • MuffinMcFluffin
      Banned
      • Feb 2003
      • 4215

      #3
      Re: True swing is flawed

      IMO, if there was contact like that, then there might be TOO much in the game. I definitely understand what you are saying though, so it makes sense. However, go to the replay and see if the ball goes through the bat. If it does, then it should be fixed (many of them should result in broken bats if the pitch is fast enough).

      I also hear that after the third out, the players will throw the ball in the stands. That sounds cool.

      I DEFINITELY agree on replays. CHANGE THEM!!!

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      • MuffinMcFluffin
        Banned
        • Feb 2003
        • 4215

        #4
        Re: True swing is flawed

        IMO, if there was contact like that, then there might be TOO much in the game. I definitely understand what you are saying though, so it makes sense. However, go to the replay and see if the ball goes through the bat. If it does, then it should be fixed (many of them should result in broken bats if the pitch is fast enough).

        I also hear that after the third out, the players will throw the ball in the stands. That sounds cool.

        I DEFINITELY agree on replays. CHANGE THEM!!!

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        • PatsFan
          Banned
          • Feb 2004
          • 204

          #5
          Re: True swing is flawed

          Yes, on the third out they turn and throw the ball into the crowd...except in Yankee stadium there's not a crowd everywhere, so it's funny to watch an outfielder throw the ball to an empty area outside the wall. It's a nice touch, of which there are several in the demo. The pitching game bores the life outa me, but as my only real online option on Xbox this year(I hate ASB's gameplay), I might get it, and then have MVP for my single player game.

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          • PatsFan
            Banned
            • Feb 2004
            • 204

            #6
            Re: True swing is flawed

            Yes, on the third out they turn and throw the ball into the crowd...except in Yankee stadium there's not a crowd everywhere, so it's funny to watch an outfielder throw the ball to an empty area outside the wall. It's a nice touch, of which there are several in the demo. The pitching game bores the life outa me, but as my only real online option on Xbox this year(I hate ASB's gameplay), I might get it, and then have MVP for my single player game.

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            • PatsFan
              Banned
              • Feb 2004
              • 204

              #7
              Re: True swing is flawed

              Yes, on the third out they turn and throw the ball into the crowd...except in Yankee stadium there's not a crowd everywhere, so it's funny to watch an outfielder throw the ball to an empty area outside the wall. It's a nice touch, of which there are several in the demo. The pitching game bores the life outa me, but as my only real online option on Xbox this year(I hate ASB's gameplay), I might get it, and then have MVP for my single player game.

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              • FatPitcher
                *SPN B*s*b*ll
                • Jul 2002
                • 885

                #8
                Re: True swing is flawed

                </font><blockquote><font class="small">Quote:</font><hr />
                PatsFan said:
                If a pitch comes inside, and I swing outside, why do I always miss the ball? Does the bat not still hit the ball? Shouldn't a hit still occur(albeit a bad hit, foul, dribbler, popup)? Sega's decision to make the batter swing exactly where the ball is pitched is both stupid and flawed. I hope it's only this way in the demo and will be more realistic in the final.

                Some things I do love from the demo: pulling the first baseman off the base on high throws (I wish I knew why I pulled him off the bag. Bad throws appear to be completely random occurrences in ESPN, while they happen for a reason in MVP), the base coaches jumping out of the way.

                Sega should study EA's replays. Especially on homeruns. ESPN's are extremely lackluster. You mainly just see a replay of the swing, and then you see the ball as it clears the wall for a second. Yawn. I've also always despised baseball games that tell me when it's time to pitch again. If I want to throw the ball around the bases, LET ME.

                <hr /></blockquote><font class="post">

                Throws are inaccurate sometimes. They are more likely to be inaccurate when "boosted", but unlike MVP, you will not have a perfect throw every time you choose to. We do it that way to make it more like real baseball.

                I agree on the replays, although we did some work on them after the demo was released.

                The "true aim" systemmakes you aim (somewhat) correctly to hit the ball. Yes, it's possible (but very unlikely) to have the ball actually pass through the bat and not hit it. It was the same way with cursor hitting. I think that's a pretty minor flaw compared to some other systems, such as ones where you never miss the ball if it's in the strike zone and you time it correctly. To each his own, though.

                The throwing the ball into empty stadium areas/into walls/etc. is fixed in the final version.

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                • FatPitcher
                  *SPN B*s*b*ll
                  • Jul 2002
                  • 885

                  #9
                  Re: True swing is flawed

                  </font><blockquote><font class="small">Quote:</font><hr />
                  PatsFan said:
                  If a pitch comes inside, and I swing outside, why do I always miss the ball? Does the bat not still hit the ball? Shouldn't a hit still occur(albeit a bad hit, foul, dribbler, popup)? Sega's decision to make the batter swing exactly where the ball is pitched is both stupid and flawed. I hope it's only this way in the demo and will be more realistic in the final.

                  Some things I do love from the demo: pulling the first baseman off the base on high throws (I wish I knew why I pulled him off the bag. Bad throws appear to be completely random occurrences in ESPN, while they happen for a reason in MVP), the base coaches jumping out of the way.

                  Sega should study EA's replays. Especially on homeruns. ESPN's are extremely lackluster. You mainly just see a replay of the swing, and then you see the ball as it clears the wall for a second. Yawn. I've also always despised baseball games that tell me when it's time to pitch again. If I want to throw the ball around the bases, LET ME.

                  <hr /></blockquote><font class="post">

                  Throws are inaccurate sometimes. They are more likely to be inaccurate when "boosted", but unlike MVP, you will not have a perfect throw every time you choose to. We do it that way to make it more like real baseball.

                  I agree on the replays, although we did some work on them after the demo was released.

                  The "true aim" systemmakes you aim (somewhat) correctly to hit the ball. Yes, it's possible (but very unlikely) to have the ball actually pass through the bat and not hit it. It was the same way with cursor hitting. I think that's a pretty minor flaw compared to some other systems, such as ones where you never miss the ball if it's in the strike zone and you time it correctly. To each his own, though.

                  The throwing the ball into empty stadium areas/into walls/etc. is fixed in the final version.

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                  • FatPitcher
                    *SPN B*s*b*ll
                    • Jul 2002
                    • 885

                    #10
                    Re: True swing is flawed

                    </font><blockquote><font class="small">Quote:</font><hr />
                    PatsFan said:
                    If a pitch comes inside, and I swing outside, why do I always miss the ball? Does the bat not still hit the ball? Shouldn't a hit still occur(albeit a bad hit, foul, dribbler, popup)? Sega's decision to make the batter swing exactly where the ball is pitched is both stupid and flawed. I hope it's only this way in the demo and will be more realistic in the final.

                    Some things I do love from the demo: pulling the first baseman off the base on high throws (I wish I knew why I pulled him off the bag. Bad throws appear to be completely random occurrences in ESPN, while they happen for a reason in MVP), the base coaches jumping out of the way.

                    Sega should study EA's replays. Especially on homeruns. ESPN's are extremely lackluster. You mainly just see a replay of the swing, and then you see the ball as it clears the wall for a second. Yawn. I've also always despised baseball games that tell me when it's time to pitch again. If I want to throw the ball around the bases, LET ME.

                    <hr /></blockquote><font class="post">

                    Throws are inaccurate sometimes. They are more likely to be inaccurate when "boosted", but unlike MVP, you will not have a perfect throw every time you choose to. We do it that way to make it more like real baseball.

                    I agree on the replays, although we did some work on them after the demo was released.

                    The "true aim" systemmakes you aim (somewhat) correctly to hit the ball. Yes, it's possible (but very unlikely) to have the ball actually pass through the bat and not hit it. It was the same way with cursor hitting. I think that's a pretty minor flaw compared to some other systems, such as ones where you never miss the ball if it's in the strike zone and you time it correctly. To each his own, though.

                    The throwing the ball into empty stadium areas/into walls/etc. is fixed in the final version.

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                    • Baximus72
                      Banned
                      • Nov 2003
                      • 29

                      #11
                      Re: True swing is flawed

                      "I've also always despised baseball games that tell me when it's time to pitch again. If I want to throw the ball around the bases, LET ME. "

                      I also hate this.

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                      • Baximus72
                        Banned
                        • Nov 2003
                        • 29

                        #12
                        Re: True swing is flawed

                        "I've also always despised baseball games that tell me when it's time to pitch again. If I want to throw the ball around the bases, LET ME. "

                        I also hate this.

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                        • Baximus72
                          Banned
                          • Nov 2003
                          • 29

                          #13
                          Re: True swing is flawed

                          "I've also always despised baseball games that tell me when it's time to pitch again. If I want to throw the ball around the bases, LET ME. "

                          I also hate this.

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                          • captaink
                            Pro
                            • Jul 2002
                            • 593

                            #14
                            Re: True swing is flawed

                            </font><blockquote><font class="small">Quote:</font><hr />
                            FatPitcher said:
                            </font><blockquote><font class="small">Quote:</font><hr />
                            PatsFan said:
                            If a pitch comes inside, and I swing outside, why do I always miss the ball? Does the bat not still hit the ball? Shouldn't a hit still occur(albeit a bad hit, foul, dribbler, popup)? Sega's decision to make the batter swing exactly where the ball is pitched is both stupid and flawed. I hope it's only this way in the demo and will be more realistic in the final.

                            Some things I do love from the demo: pulling the first baseman off the base on high throws (I wish I knew why I pulled him off the bag. Bad throws appear to be completely random occurrences in ESPN, while they happen for a reason in MVP), the base coaches jumping out of the way.

                            Sega should study EA's replays. Especially on homeruns. ESPN's are extremely lackluster. You mainly just see a replay of the swing, and then you see the ball as it clears the wall for a second. Yawn. I've also always despised baseball games that tell me when it's time to pitch again. If I want to throw the ball around the bases, LET ME.

                            <hr /></blockquote><font class="post">

                            Throws are inaccurate sometimes. They are more likely to be inaccurate when "boosted", but unlike MVP, you will not have a perfect throw every time you choose to. We do it that way to make it more like real baseball.

                            I agree on the replays, although we did some work on them after the demo was released.

                            The "true aim" systemmakes you aim (somewhat) correctly to hit the ball. Yes, it's possible (but very unlikely) to have the ball actually pass through the bat and not hit it. It was the same way with cursor hitting. I think that's a pretty minor flaw compared to some other systems, such as ones where you never miss the ball if it's in the strike zone and you time it correctly. To each his own, though.

                            The throwing the ball into empty stadium areas/into walls/etc. is fixed in the final version.

                            <hr /></blockquote><font class="post">


                            Good comeback FP, I am on the fence this year for which game I want ESPN or MVP but if the hitting in MVP is like this when the pitch is in the strike zone and you time it correctly you should not always be able to hit the ball if you swing in the wrong place.

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                            • captaink
                              Pro
                              • Jul 2002
                              • 593

                              #15
                              Re: True swing is flawed

                              </font><blockquote><font class="small">Quote:</font><hr />
                              FatPitcher said:
                              </font><blockquote><font class="small">Quote:</font><hr />
                              PatsFan said:
                              If a pitch comes inside, and I swing outside, why do I always miss the ball? Does the bat not still hit the ball? Shouldn't a hit still occur(albeit a bad hit, foul, dribbler, popup)? Sega's decision to make the batter swing exactly where the ball is pitched is both stupid and flawed. I hope it's only this way in the demo and will be more realistic in the final.

                              Some things I do love from the demo: pulling the first baseman off the base on high throws (I wish I knew why I pulled him off the bag. Bad throws appear to be completely random occurrences in ESPN, while they happen for a reason in MVP), the base coaches jumping out of the way.

                              Sega should study EA's replays. Especially on homeruns. ESPN's are extremely lackluster. You mainly just see a replay of the swing, and then you see the ball as it clears the wall for a second. Yawn. I've also always despised baseball games that tell me when it's time to pitch again. If I want to throw the ball around the bases, LET ME.

                              <hr /></blockquote><font class="post">

                              Throws are inaccurate sometimes. They are more likely to be inaccurate when "boosted", but unlike MVP, you will not have a perfect throw every time you choose to. We do it that way to make it more like real baseball.

                              I agree on the replays, although we did some work on them after the demo was released.

                              The "true aim" systemmakes you aim (somewhat) correctly to hit the ball. Yes, it's possible (but very unlikely) to have the ball actually pass through the bat and not hit it. It was the same way with cursor hitting. I think that's a pretty minor flaw compared to some other systems, such as ones where you never miss the ball if it's in the strike zone and you time it correctly. To each his own, though.

                              The throwing the ball into empty stadium areas/into walls/etc. is fixed in the final version.

                              <hr /></blockquote><font class="post">


                              Good comeback FP, I am on the fence this year for which game I want ESPN or MVP but if the hitting in MVP is like this when the pitch is in the strike zone and you time it correctly you should not always be able to hit the ball if you swing in the wrong place.

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