This is gonna be a long two weeks

**ESPNFANAZ** · 03-11-2004, 06:27 PM

Re: This is gonna be a long two weeks

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Gennataos said:
Since I get sports games predominantly to play on Xbox Live, I don't even consider games without online support. I think most other Xbox Live gamers feel the same way. Hoepfully someday EA will support online play for the Xbox, but until then I won't even read about their games....not out of some innane sense of spite, just because I know I won't buy them regardless of how fabulous they may be.

If I were to try to convince others to get a specific sports game, it'd be so I had more potential opponents online. If someone's not online or is playing on another platform, I couldn't care less what they play....go play some buggy High Heat 2002 on PC for all I care!

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I hear ya, I almost got drawn into buying MVP, however I had to stand my ground. I won't buy this game because it is not on XBox live. EA needs to get together with Microsoft and make a deal fast! Besides, I really would LOVE to play Battlefield 1942 on Live.

**Cardot** · 03-11-2004, 11:00 PM

Re: This is gonna be a long two weeks

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dream33 said:
Trust me...you owe it to yourself to at least try MVP.

MVP 2004 is worlds better than last year's ESPN. I can't imagine this year being much
different after seeing the vids and the feature set.

If you buy MVP now, and ESPN later, you'll find yourself going back to MVP.
100% guarantee it.

<hr /></blockquote>

While all fanboys are annoying, the EA boyz have an extra touch of arrogance that make them the worst IMO.

**Cardot** · 03-11-2004, 11:00 PM

Re: This is gonna be a long two weeks

<blockquote>Quote:<hr />
dream33 said:
Trust me...you owe it to yourself to at least try MVP.

MVP 2004 is worlds better than last year's ESPN. I can't imagine this year being much
different after seeing the vids and the feature set.

If you buy MVP now, and ESPN later, you'll find yourself going back to MVP.
100% guarantee it.

<hr /></blockquote>

While all fanboys are annoying, the EA boyz have an extra touch of arrogance that make them the worst IMO.

**Cardot** · 03-11-2004, 11:00 PM

Re: This is gonna be a long two weeks

<blockquote>Quote:<hr />
dream33 said:
Trust me...you owe it to yourself to at least try MVP.

MVP 2004 is worlds better than last year's ESPN. I can't imagine this year being much
different after seeing the vids and the feature set.

If you buy MVP now, and ESPN later, you'll find yourself going back to MVP.
100% guarantee it.

<hr /></blockquote>

While all fanboys are annoying, the EA boyz have an extra touch of arrogance that make them the worst IMO.

**ehh** · 03-11-2004, 11:06 PM

Re: This is gonna be a long two weeks

<blockquote>Quote:<hr />
dream33 said:
Trust me...you owe it to yourself to at least try MVP.

MVP 2004 is worlds better than last year's ESPN. I can't imagine this year being much
different after seeing the vids and the feature set.

If you buy MVP now, and ESPN later, you'll find yourself going back to MVP.
100% guarantee it.

<hr /></blockquote>

That statement is a little overboard. MVP '04 is not worlds better than WSB2K3. It's just not. I'm a fan of both games, bought MVP the day it came out and it's a very good game. But like all games it has its issues and its not worlds better than last year's WSB and it might struggle to beat this year's ESPN. ESPN is much smoother than MVP, the framerate and choppiness have started to get on my nerves a little.

Both games will have their ups and downs and both are VERY different from one another. If someone has a preference for one or the other thats fine, but both are/will be great games.

**ehh** · 03-11-2004, 11:06 PM

Re: This is gonna be a long two weeks

<blockquote>Quote:<hr />
dream33 said:
Trust me...you owe it to yourself to at least try MVP.

MVP 2004 is worlds better than last year's ESPN. I can't imagine this year being much
different after seeing the vids and the feature set.

If you buy MVP now, and ESPN later, you'll find yourself going back to MVP.
100% guarantee it.

<hr /></blockquote>

That statement is a little overboard. MVP '04 is not worlds better than WSB2K3. It's just not. I'm a fan of both games, bought MVP the day it came out and it's a very good game. But like all games it has its issues and its not worlds better than last year's WSB and it might struggle to beat this year's ESPN. ESPN is much smoother than MVP, the framerate and choppiness have started to get on my nerves a little.

Both games will have their ups and downs and both are VERY different from one another. If someone has a preference for one or the other thats fine, but both are/will be great games.

**ehh** · 03-11-2004, 11:06 PM

Re: This is gonna be a long two weeks

<blockquote>Quote:<hr />
dream33 said:
Trust me...you owe it to yourself to at least try MVP.

MVP 2004 is worlds better than last year's ESPN. I can't imagine this year being much
different after seeing the vids and the feature set.

If you buy MVP now, and ESPN later, you'll find yourself going back to MVP.
100% guarantee it.

<hr /></blockquote>

That statement is a little overboard. MVP '04 is not worlds better than WSB2K3. It's just not. I'm a fan of both games, bought MVP the day it came out and it's a very good game. But like all games it has its issues and its not worlds better than last year's WSB and it might struggle to beat this year's ESPN. ESPN is much smoother than MVP, the framerate and choppiness have started to get on my nerves a little.

Both games will have their ups and downs and both are VERY different from one another. If someone has a preference for one or the other thats fine, but both are/will be great games.

**GameDude** · 03-12-2004, 01:55 PM

Re: This is gonna be a long two weeks

<blockquote>Quote:<hr />
Cardot said:
<blockquote>Quote:<hr />
dream33 said:
Trust me...you owe it to yourself to at least try MVP.

MVP 2004 is worlds better than last year's ESPN. I can't imagine this year being much
different after seeing the vids and the feature set.

If you buy MVP now, and ESPN later, you'll find yourself going back to MVP.
100% guarantee it.

<hr /></blockquote>

While all fanboys are annoying, the EA boyz have an extra touch of arrogance that make them the worst IMO.

<hr /></blockquote>

It sounds to me like someone from EA's marketing department is trolling this board. 5 posts in one year?... hmmmm...

**GameDude** · 03-12-2004, 01:55 PM

Re: This is gonna be a long two weeks

<blockquote>Quote:<hr />
Cardot said:
<blockquote>Quote:<hr />
dream33 said:
Trust me...you owe it to yourself to at least try MVP.

MVP 2004 is worlds better than last year's ESPN. I can't imagine this year being much
different after seeing the vids and the feature set.

If you buy MVP now, and ESPN later, you'll find yourself going back to MVP.
100% guarantee it.

<hr /></blockquote>

While all fanboys are annoying, the EA boyz have an extra touch of arrogance that make them the worst IMO.

<hr /></blockquote>

It sounds to me like someone from EA's marketing department is trolling this board. 5 posts in one year?... hmmmm...

**GameDude** · 03-12-2004, 01:55 PM

Re: This is gonna be a long two weeks

<blockquote>Quote:<hr />
Cardot said:
<blockquote>Quote:<hr />
dream33 said:
Trust me...you owe it to yourself to at least try MVP.

MVP 2004 is worlds better than last year's ESPN. I can't imagine this year being much
different after seeing the vids and the feature set.

If you buy MVP now, and ESPN later, you'll find yourself going back to MVP.
100% guarantee it.

<hr /></blockquote>

While all fanboys are annoying, the EA boyz have an extra touch of arrogance that make them the worst IMO.

<hr /></blockquote>

It sounds to me like someone from EA's marketing department is trolling this board. 5 posts in one year?... hmmmm...

**ESPNFANAZ** · 03-12-2004, 05:38 PM

Re: This is gonna be a long two weeks

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blackceasar said:
Okay take it from someone who has played just about ever baseball game to come out since Atari (yes im old lol).....

Last year I put ESPN (well World Series) a tad bit above MVP because it looked better, had a more robust franchise mode, and just seemed more realistic and more of a polished product...MVP didnt really suck last year, ESPN was just that much better........

This year..I have MVP 2004. I dont have the new ESPN baseball yet so I cant compare MVP to this years ESPN and neither can anyone else on this board unless you have the beta I guess. As it stands. MVP 2004 is leaps and bounds over MVP 2003. It totally kicks MVP 2003's *** and every aspect. Now comparing MVP 2004 to last years World Series baseball...MVP 2004 is a better game IMO but it doesnt flat outright kick its ***..but its a better game for the simple fact that MVP 2004's dynasty (franchise) mode this year is just way more robust than World Series of last year.....BUT.....the Jury is still out in my opnion when it comes to comparing MVP 2004 to this years ESPN cuz its not out yet. I do know this though... if there is at least one thing the ESPN will beat MVP out on this year will be the graphics and presentation. They are just way more crisp and clean...but thats the only thing I can compare now cuz ive seen screenshots of ESPN this year. I cant compare the gameplay and dynasty modes yet. IMO i have a feeling this year these two games will be neck and neck with people slightly choosing one over the other based on little things that one might have the the other one doesnt..but I think they will be very close as far as likability.

See i give honest opinions about the games because I will go out and purchase both. Im not some snot nosed 14 year old kid on this board who will talk about how one totally kicks the other one's *** just because mom only let me buy one of them instead of both. I tend to see alot of that on boards lately. If a kid gets MVP and cant afford the other game..he will be like "awwww yeah.. MVP is the greatest ever!!" but if he bought EPSN instead hed be saying the same thing because he is really just trying to convince himself and other people that he made the right choice between the two. Like I said...thats not me. I will own both games so you will get an honest comparision between the two and not some biased opinion based on the one game i could afford to get. And thats not knocking someone who cant afford to go out and get both games...but if you can only get one, at least be REAL with your opinions and stop the "mines better than the other one because its the one I own" routine..it gets old people....really.

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I hear ya! Looking forward to seeing what you think about comparing the two games.

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IMO i have a feeling this year these two games will be neck and neck with people slightly choosing one over the other based on little things that one might have the the other one doesnt..but I think they will be very close as far as likability.

<hr /></blockquote>

Yep, and that little thing (actually a big thing for me) is XBox Live support! Infact, I'm almost at the point right now where I won't buy the game unless it says XBox Live compatible on it.

**ESPNFANAZ** · 03-12-2004, 05:38 PM

Re: This is gonna be a long two weeks

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blackceasar said:
Okay take it from someone who has played just about ever baseball game to come out since Atari (yes im old lol).....

Last year I put ESPN (well World Series) a tad bit above MVP because it looked better, had a more robust franchise mode, and just seemed more realistic and more of a polished product...MVP didnt really suck last year, ESPN was just that much better........

This year..I have MVP 2004. I dont have the new ESPN baseball yet so I cant compare MVP to this years ESPN and neither can anyone else on this board unless you have the beta I guess. As it stands. MVP 2004 is leaps and bounds over MVP 2003. It totally kicks MVP 2003's *** and every aspect. Now comparing MVP 2004 to last years World Series baseball...MVP 2004 is a better game IMO but it doesnt flat outright kick its ***..but its a better game for the simple fact that MVP 2004's dynasty (franchise) mode this year is just way more robust than World Series of last year.....BUT.....the Jury is still out in my opnion when it comes to comparing MVP 2004 to this years ESPN cuz its not out yet. I do know this though... if there is at least one thing the ESPN will beat MVP out on this year will be the graphics and presentation. They are just way more crisp and clean...but thats the only thing I can compare now cuz ive seen screenshots of ESPN this year. I cant compare the gameplay and dynasty modes yet. IMO i have a feeling this year these two games will be neck and neck with people slightly choosing one over the other based on little things that one might have the the other one doesnt..but I think they will be very close as far as likability.

See i give honest opinions about the games because I will go out and purchase both. Im not some snot nosed 14 year old kid on this board who will talk about how one totally kicks the other one's *** just because mom only let me buy one of them instead of both. I tend to see alot of that on boards lately. If a kid gets MVP and cant afford the other game..he will be like "awwww yeah.. MVP is the greatest ever!!" but if he bought EPSN instead hed be saying the same thing because he is really just trying to convince himself and other people that he made the right choice between the two. Like I said...thats not me. I will own both games so you will get an honest comparision between the two and not some biased opinion based on the one game i could afford to get. And thats not knocking someone who cant afford to go out and get both games...but if you can only get one, at least be REAL with your opinions and stop the "mines better than the other one because its the one I own" routine..it gets old people....really.

<hr /></blockquote>

I hear ya! Looking forward to seeing what you think about comparing the two games.

<blockquote>Quote:<hr />

IMO i have a feeling this year these two games will be neck and neck with people slightly choosing one over the other based on little things that one might have the the other one doesnt..but I think they will be very close as far as likability.

<hr /></blockquote>

Yep, and that little thing (actually a big thing for me) is XBox Live support! Infact, I'm almost at the point right now where I won't buy the game unless it says XBox Live compatible on it.

**ESPNFANAZ** · 03-12-2004, 05:38 PM

Re: This is gonna be a long two weeks

<blockquote>Quote:<hr />
blackceasar said:
Okay take it from someone who has played just about ever baseball game to come out since Atari (yes im old lol).....

Last year I put ESPN (well World Series) a tad bit above MVP because it looked better, had a more robust franchise mode, and just seemed more realistic and more of a polished product...MVP didnt really suck last year, ESPN was just that much better........

This year..I have MVP 2004. I dont have the new ESPN baseball yet so I cant compare MVP to this years ESPN and neither can anyone else on this board unless you have the beta I guess. As it stands. MVP 2004 is leaps and bounds over MVP 2003. It totally kicks MVP 2003's *** and every aspect. Now comparing MVP 2004 to last years World Series baseball...MVP 2004 is a better game IMO but it doesnt flat outright kick its ***..but its a better game for the simple fact that MVP 2004's dynasty (franchise) mode this year is just way more robust than World Series of last year.....BUT.....the Jury is still out in my opnion when it comes to comparing MVP 2004 to this years ESPN cuz its not out yet. I do know this though... if there is at least one thing the ESPN will beat MVP out on this year will be the graphics and presentation. They are just way more crisp and clean...but thats the only thing I can compare now cuz ive seen screenshots of ESPN this year. I cant compare the gameplay and dynasty modes yet. IMO i have a feeling this year these two games will be neck and neck with people slightly choosing one over the other based on little things that one might have the the other one doesnt..but I think they will be very close as far as likability.

See i give honest opinions about the games because I will go out and purchase both. Im not some snot nosed 14 year old kid on this board who will talk about how one totally kicks the other one's *** just because mom only let me buy one of them instead of both. I tend to see alot of that on boards lately. If a kid gets MVP and cant afford the other game..he will be like "awwww yeah.. MVP is the greatest ever!!" but if he bought EPSN instead hed be saying the same thing because he is really just trying to convince himself and other people that he made the right choice between the two. Like I said...thats not me. I will own both games so you will get an honest comparision between the two and not some biased opinion based on the one game i could afford to get. And thats not knocking someone who cant afford to go out and get both games...but if you can only get one, at least be REAL with your opinions and stop the "mines better than the other one because its the one I own" routine..it gets old people....really.

<hr /></blockquote>

I hear ya! Looking forward to seeing what you think about comparing the two games.

<blockquote>Quote:<hr />

IMO i have a feeling this year these two games will be neck and neck with people slightly choosing one over the other based on little things that one might have the the other one doesnt..but I think they will be very close as far as likability.

<hr /></blockquote>

Yep, and that little thing (actually a big thing for me) is XBox Live support! Infact, I'm almost at the point right now where I won't buy the game unless it says XBox Live compatible on it.

**HbK265** · 03-12-2004, 10:30 PM

Re: This is gonna be a long two weeks

i havent played mvp yet but from what i heard the online play (ps2) is a disaster:

constant framerate issues, and, not allowing you to start anyone but your first starter in your online game, so, for example, if you are in an online league and you are the cubs your starter will be mark prior in your first game, then mark prior in the 2nd , then prior in the 3rd game etc.

but offline, mvp may be the game to get, but like what was mentioned earlier, we have to wait to ALL the games come out to judge which is the best game to get

also (yes, 989's game) may also sneek up (like MVP last year) and be the baseball game of the year, as it is much improved, but only time will tell

**HbK265** · 03-12-2004, 10:30 PM

Re: This is gonna be a long two weeks

i havent played mvp yet but from what i heard the online play (ps2) is a disaster:

constant framerate issues, and, not allowing you to start anyone but your first starter in your online game, so, for example, if you are in an online league and you are the cubs your starter will be mark prior in your first game, then mark prior in the 2nd , then prior in the 3rd game etc.

but offline, mvp may be the game to get, but like what was mentioned earlier, we have to wait to ALL the games come out to judge which is the best game to get

also (yes, 989's game) may also sneek up (like MVP last year) and be the baseball game of the year, as it is much improved, but only time will tell

This is gonna be a long two weeks

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