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  • Brando70
    Pro
    • Jul 2002
    • 646

    #61
    Re: Where are the long term tests of ESPN?

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    srudoff said:
    see this is kinda what i was getting at

    mvp trashers point out that it's arcade and that dynasty's broken. they claim that espn is the "best baseball game of all time", "the game for serious simmers", etc. yet none of these "serious simmers" have taken any time to make sure dynasty is not broken on espn. i actually saw one poster say that he was going to stop reading these boards because he'd rather not know about any game killing bugs because he was having too much fun playing espn. while that's fine for that guy and probably many others, it goes against all these people who can't stop talking about espn as the ultimate sim game. i guess i'm calling out these people to kinda point out why they claim to be "serious simmers" but are content to hope that espn's franchise isn't broken instead of actually making sure it's not before making their claims.

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    I've played MVP (owned it for a while), and the on-field action alone couldn't hold ESPN's jockstrap in my opinion. I've played about two dozen games so far, so I've spent a fair amount of time with the game. But really, I noticed how much better this game is within the first couple of innings when I drew a walk.

    ESPN certainly has some flaws. The animations often suck. The general crowd noise is flat. There are a couple of minor bugs like the scoring of errors. The substitution AI could be improved a little. But nothing that takes away from drawing walks, pitching walks more easily, and seeing CPU guys steal and hit &amp; run. The point is, this game really feels like baseball, while MVP feels like baseball-flavored substance. I don't even miss the pitching meter any more, which was my favorite part of MVP.

    I certainly think dynasty is important, but if it's THE most important thing to you, then you shouldn't even be playing these games, you should be playing Out of the Park. If on-field gameplay is the most important thing, ESPN is easily more realistic than MVP. It is the NBA Inside Drive of baseball this year. In fact, the realism of this game becomes even more apparent the more you play it.

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    • dork88
      Rookie
      • Aug 2003
      • 194

      #62
      Re: Where are the long term tests of ESPN?

      Brando,

      You're absolutely right. I was actually waiting for Out of the Park to come out because I figured there would be no good baseball game for the consoles this year. Well I was wrong, this game does everything right.

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      • dork88
        Rookie
        • Aug 2003
        • 194

        #63
        Re: Where are the long term tests of ESPN?

        Brando,

        You're absolutely right. I was actually waiting for Out of the Park to come out because I figured there would be no good baseball game for the consoles this year. Well I was wrong, this game does everything right.

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        • dork88
          Rookie
          • Aug 2003
          • 194

          #64
          Re: Where are the long term tests of ESPN?

          Brando,

          You're absolutely right. I was actually waiting for Out of the Park to come out because I figured there would be no good baseball game for the consoles this year. Well I was wrong, this game does everything right.

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          • Reddog2
            Rookie
            • Oct 2002
            • 346

            #65
            Re: Where are the long term tests of ESPN?

            Brando hit it on the button...I don't even miss the pitch or throwing meter from MVP either. I absolutley loved that concept, but ESPN has won me over with the variety of pitch locations (meaning the ball often times does not go where you wanted it to).

            The greatest element of ESPN for me is the variety of games I have. Sometimes I will have my #1 pitcher going and it will be a 2-1 game. Other times my #1 pitcher will get shelled and I will lose 8-3. You just never know. And to top it off the true aim batting feel perfect for me. I actually strike out and as everybody else has said you get walked at a very realistic pace as well. When I am facing a good pitcher who mixes up speeds well I will strike out a lot. I am able to pull and spray the ball realisticlly as well.

            In terms of the crowd, I have noticed that in a close game in late or extra innings they make a lot more noise. The hang on every pitch at that point and it is nice.

            I will be playing this game for a long long time to come.

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            • Reddog2
              Rookie
              • Oct 2002
              • 346

              #66
              Re: Where are the long term tests of ESPN?

              Brando hit it on the button...I don't even miss the pitch or throwing meter from MVP either. I absolutley loved that concept, but ESPN has won me over with the variety of pitch locations (meaning the ball often times does not go where you wanted it to).

              The greatest element of ESPN for me is the variety of games I have. Sometimes I will have my #1 pitcher going and it will be a 2-1 game. Other times my #1 pitcher will get shelled and I will lose 8-3. You just never know. And to top it off the true aim batting feel perfect for me. I actually strike out and as everybody else has said you get walked at a very realistic pace as well. When I am facing a good pitcher who mixes up speeds well I will strike out a lot. I am able to pull and spray the ball realisticlly as well.

              In terms of the crowd, I have noticed that in a close game in late or extra innings they make a lot more noise. The hang on every pitch at that point and it is nice.

              I will be playing this game for a long long time to come.

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              • Reddog2
                Rookie
                • Oct 2002
                • 346

                #67
                Re: Where are the long term tests of ESPN?

                Brando hit it on the button...I don't even miss the pitch or throwing meter from MVP either. I absolutley loved that concept, but ESPN has won me over with the variety of pitch locations (meaning the ball often times does not go where you wanted it to).

                The greatest element of ESPN for me is the variety of games I have. Sometimes I will have my #1 pitcher going and it will be a 2-1 game. Other times my #1 pitcher will get shelled and I will lose 8-3. You just never know. And to top it off the true aim batting feel perfect for me. I actually strike out and as everybody else has said you get walked at a very realistic pace as well. When I am facing a good pitcher who mixes up speeds well I will strike out a lot. I am able to pull and spray the ball realisticlly as well.

                In terms of the crowd, I have noticed that in a close game in late or extra innings they make a lot more noise. The hang on every pitch at that point and it is nice.

                I will be playing this game for a long long time to come.

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                • jjoe
                  Pro
                  • Feb 2003
                  • 880

                  #68
                  Re: Where are the long term tests of ESPN?

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                  Reddog2 said:
                  Brando hit it on the button...I don't even miss the pitch or throwing meter from MVP either. I absolutley loved that concept, but ESPN has won me over with the variety of pitch locations (meaning the ball often times does not go where you wanted it to).

                  The greatest element of ESPN for me is the variety of games I have. Sometimes I will have my #1 pitcher going and it will be a 2-1 game. Other times my #1 pitcher will get shelled and I will lose 8-3. You just never know. And to top it off the true aim batting feel perfect for me. I actually strike out and as everybody else has said you get walked at a very realistic pace as well. When I am facing a good pitcher who mixes up speeds well I will strike out a lot. I am able to pull and spray the ball realisticlly as well.

                  In terms of the crowd, I have noticed that in a close game in late or extra innings they make a lot more noise. The hang on every pitch at that point and it is nice.

                  I will be playing this game for a long long time to come.

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                  • jjoe
                    Pro
                    • Feb 2003
                    • 880

                    #69
                    Re: Where are the long term tests of ESPN?

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                    Reddog2 said:
                    Brando hit it on the button...I don't even miss the pitch or throwing meter from MVP either. I absolutley loved that concept, but ESPN has won me over with the variety of pitch locations (meaning the ball often times does not go where you wanted it to).

                    The greatest element of ESPN for me is the variety of games I have. Sometimes I will have my #1 pitcher going and it will be a 2-1 game. Other times my #1 pitcher will get shelled and I will lose 8-3. You just never know. And to top it off the true aim batting feel perfect for me. I actually strike out and as everybody else has said you get walked at a very realistic pace as well. When I am facing a good pitcher who mixes up speeds well I will strike out a lot. I am able to pull and spray the ball realisticlly as well.

                    In terms of the crowd, I have noticed that in a close game in late or extra innings they make a lot more noise. The hang on every pitch at that point and it is nice.

                    I will be playing this game for a long long time to come.

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                    • jjoe
                      Pro
                      • Feb 2003
                      • 880

                      #70
                      Re: Where are the long term tests of ESPN?

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                      Reddog2 said:
                      Brando hit it on the button...I don't even miss the pitch or throwing meter from MVP either. I absolutley loved that concept, but ESPN has won me over with the variety of pitch locations (meaning the ball often times does not go where you wanted it to).

                      The greatest element of ESPN for me is the variety of games I have. Sometimes I will have my #1 pitcher going and it will be a 2-1 game. Other times my #1 pitcher will get shelled and I will lose 8-3. You just never know. And to top it off the true aim batting feel perfect for me. I actually strike out and as everybody else has said you get walked at a very realistic pace as well. When I am facing a good pitcher who mixes up speeds well I will strike out a lot. I am able to pull and spray the ball realisticlly as well.

                      In terms of the crowd, I have noticed that in a close game in late or extra innings they make a lot more noise. The hang on every pitch at that point and it is nice.

                      I will be playing this game for a long long time to come.

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                      • jrnyfan73
                        Rookie
                        • Oct 2003
                        • 7

                        #71
                        Re: Where are the long term tests of ESPN?

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                        DocHolliday said:
                        well, their is one bug thats kinda bad. If your (or comp) infielder dives to stop a hot grounder, then gets to his knees and makes a nice throw, but the guy is safe in time, it will count as an error for the fielder, not a hit for the hitter. Does that make sense.

                        Anyway, not sure if this si correct, but I dont think it is.

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                        I've seen this many times while playing and yes it does "bug" me. Not enough of a game killer IMO. In fact if this is the only thing that is wrong with this game that I see then oh well! I have tried to help them cut down on the errors by turning the slider for aggressive throws down and it seems to help but am not sure. I'll just keep playin' and see what happens.

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                        • jrnyfan73
                          Rookie
                          • Oct 2003
                          • 7

                          #72
                          Re: Where are the long term tests of ESPN?

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                          DocHolliday said:
                          well, their is one bug thats kinda bad. If your (or comp) infielder dives to stop a hot grounder, then gets to his knees and makes a nice throw, but the guy is safe in time, it will count as an error for the fielder, not a hit for the hitter. Does that make sense.

                          Anyway, not sure if this si correct, but I dont think it is.

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                          I've seen this many times while playing and yes it does "bug" me. Not enough of a game killer IMO. In fact if this is the only thing that is wrong with this game that I see then oh well! I have tried to help them cut down on the errors by turning the slider for aggressive throws down and it seems to help but am not sure. I'll just keep playin' and see what happens.

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                          • jrnyfan73
                            Rookie
                            • Oct 2003
                            • 7

                            #73
                            Re: Where are the long term tests of ESPN?

                            </font><blockquote><font class="small">Quote:</font><hr />
                            DocHolliday said:
                            well, their is one bug thats kinda bad. If your (or comp) infielder dives to stop a hot grounder, then gets to his knees and makes a nice throw, but the guy is safe in time, it will count as an error for the fielder, not a hit for the hitter. Does that make sense.

                            Anyway, not sure if this si correct, but I dont think it is.

                            <hr /></blockquote><font class="post">

                            I've seen this many times while playing and yes it does "bug" me. Not enough of a game killer IMO. In fact if this is the only thing that is wrong with this game that I see then oh well! I have tried to help them cut down on the errors by turning the slider for aggressive throws down and it seems to help but am not sure. I'll just keep playin' and see what happens.

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