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  • Pared
    Legen - WAIT FOR IT
    • Feb 2003
    • 39337

    #121
    Re: Behind the Pitcher Cam

    Originally posted by Briankingsfan
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    • BrianFifaFan
      Semi-retired
      • Oct 2003
      • 4137

      #122
      Re: Behind the Pitcher Cam

      Good thought,Pared. Even with the patches last year I never got rid of the stutter. I'm still kinda leary.....
      Note to Tiburon Marketing:

      A great product sells itself, no "back of the box" features required! (See Fifa...)

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      • BrianFifaFan
        Semi-retired
        • Oct 2003
        • 4137

        #123
        Re: Behind the Pitcher Cam

        Good thought,Pared. Even with the patches last year I never got rid of the stutter. I'm still kinda leary.....
        Note to Tiburon Marketing:

        A great product sells itself, no "back of the box" features required! (See Fifa...)

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        • warnerwlf98
          MVP
          • Sep 2003
          • 1807

          #124
          Re: Behind the Pitcher Cam

          Originally posted by Guga
          It's perfect.
          If u guys give me somehwere to upload i can make a video of it.

          I will need 3-5mb.

          I downloaded a ESPN Overlay, all the Minor League Players and MLB Players photos...
          Thanks man. That was a great video showing how playable that angle is. Sure, you could probably tweak it for personal taste, but it looks great anyway. You can really see the movement in the pitches.

          In the future wouldn't it be nice if different pitchers put different movement on the ball? Well, that's for the next gen systems I guess.
          "We were expecting a miracle with Elite, but instead we got Jesus at halfcourt."

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          (I don't remember who said this but PM me who did say it, and I'll quote him properly)

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          • warnerwlf98
            MVP
            • Sep 2003
            • 1807

            #125
            Re: Behind the Pitcher Cam

            Originally posted by Guga
            It's perfect.
            If u guys give me somehwere to upload i can make a video of it.

            I will need 3-5mb.

            I downloaded a ESPN Overlay, all the Minor League Players and MLB Players photos...
            Thanks man. That was a great video showing how playable that angle is. Sure, you could probably tweak it for personal taste, but it looks great anyway. You can really see the movement in the pitches.

            In the future wouldn't it be nice if different pitchers put different movement on the ball? Well, that's for the next gen systems I guess.
            "We were expecting a miracle with Elite, but instead we got Jesus at halfcourt."

            -OS Radio Show

            (I don't remember who said this but PM me who did say it, and I'll quote him properly)

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            • Pared
              Legen - WAIT FOR IT
              • Feb 2003
              • 39337

              #126
              Re: Behind the Pitcher Cam

              Originally posted by warnerwlf98
              In the future wouldn't it be nice if different pitchers put different movement on the ball? Well, that's for the next gen systems I guess.
              You mean different "breaks?" If so, that's possible NOW with MVP. There are hidden "break" ratings for each of a pitcher's pitches. The higher the rating, the harder the break. It's noticeable, too!
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                • Feb 2003
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                #127
                Re: Behind the Pitcher Cam

                Originally posted by warnerwlf98
                In the future wouldn't it be nice if different pitchers put different movement on the ball? Well, that's for the next gen systems I guess.
                You mean different "breaks?" If so, that's possible NOW with MVP. There are hidden "break" ratings for each of a pitcher's pitches. The higher the rating, the harder the break. It's noticeable, too!
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                • ComfortablyLomb
                  MVP
                  • Sep 2003
                  • 3548

                  #128
                  Re: Behind the Pitcher Cam

                  Well, what I think Warner is really getting at is that there many different versions of every pitch. Making the break harder or softer depending on the quality of the pitcher is nice but that isn't exactly how it works. Arm angles and release points have a great deal with how a pitch appears to the batter. As of yet baseball games have not done enough to make these variables influence how the ball looks coming in to the plate. I'm not talking about windup visuals either, those are nice, but they aren't being used to properly influence the path of the ball. A guy like Pedro Martinez may throw 3 or 4 different pitches with regularity but he can make them seem like 6 or 7 different pitches by altering his arm angle and release. If you watch him you can see that he can throw his changeup anywhere from dead straight to with a tight screwball action. He only gets one changeup in MVP but he can't do nearly as much with it as he can in real life.

                  Back in the day, Ken Griffey Jr. Baseball let you apply the break on the ball as it was coming to the plate. While that game wasn't very good as a whole, this was an aspect of pitching that I thought would be wonderful to impliment in our present day baseball games, yet it hasn't happened. Basically, you could throw a slider and either make it break straight across the plate or have it dive down a little. That sort of thing.

                  What I'm really getting at is that there should be an art to pitching and I just haven't seen any of these game companies make an effort to get closer to that.

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                  • ComfortablyLomb
                    MVP
                    • Sep 2003
                    • 3548

                    #129
                    Re: Behind the Pitcher Cam

                    Well, what I think Warner is really getting at is that there many different versions of every pitch. Making the break harder or softer depending on the quality of the pitcher is nice but that isn't exactly how it works. Arm angles and release points have a great deal with how a pitch appears to the batter. As of yet baseball games have not done enough to make these variables influence how the ball looks coming in to the plate. I'm not talking about windup visuals either, those are nice, but they aren't being used to properly influence the path of the ball. A guy like Pedro Martinez may throw 3 or 4 different pitches with regularity but he can make them seem like 6 or 7 different pitches by altering his arm angle and release. If you watch him you can see that he can throw his changeup anywhere from dead straight to with a tight screwball action. He only gets one changeup in MVP but he can't do nearly as much with it as he can in real life.

                    Back in the day, Ken Griffey Jr. Baseball let you apply the break on the ball as it was coming to the plate. While that game wasn't very good as a whole, this was an aspect of pitching that I thought would be wonderful to impliment in our present day baseball games, yet it hasn't happened. Basically, you could throw a slider and either make it break straight across the plate or have it dive down a little. That sort of thing.

                    What I'm really getting at is that there should be an art to pitching and I just haven't seen any of these game companies make an effort to get closer to that.

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                    • Blzer
                      Resident film pundit
                      • Mar 2004
                      • 42520

                      #130
                      Re: Behind the Pitcher Cam

                      Haha, if you mean the Super Nintendo version of KG Jr. Baseball, that was where you would control the break after the pitch is thrown.
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                      • Blzer
                        Resident film pundit
                        • Mar 2004
                        • 42520

                        #131
                        Re: Behind the Pitcher Cam

                        Haha, if you mean the Super Nintendo version of KG Jr. Baseball, that was where you would control the break after the pitch is thrown.
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                        • warnerwlf98
                          MVP
                          • Sep 2003
                          • 1807

                          #132
                          Re: Behind the Pitcher Cam

                          Originally posted by Pared
                          You mean different "breaks?" If so, that's possible NOW with MVP. There are hidden "break" ratings for each of a pitcher's pitches. The higher the rating, the harder the break. It's noticeable, too!
                          I was trying to mean different movement on fastballs. My job is confusing lately and I guess it's just spilling into all facets of my life.

                          MVP is the best that's out there now . . . I just hope that the commentary could improve so I don't have to turn it off completely.

                          EDIT - Posted this before I read ComfortablyLomb's response. He understood what I was trying to say. Thanks man.
                          Last edited by warnerwlf98; 02-14-2005, 05:56 PM.
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                          • warnerwlf98
                            MVP
                            • Sep 2003
                            • 1807

                            #133
                            Re: Behind the Pitcher Cam

                            Originally posted by Pared
                            You mean different "breaks?" If so, that's possible NOW with MVP. There are hidden "break" ratings for each of a pitcher's pitches. The higher the rating, the harder the break. It's noticeable, too!
                            I was trying to mean different movement on fastballs. My job is confusing lately and I guess it's just spilling into all facets of my life.

                            MVP is the best that's out there now . . . I just hope that the commentary could improve so I don't have to turn it off completely.

                            EDIT - Posted this before I read ComfortablyLomb's response. He understood what I was trying to say. Thanks man.
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                            (I don't remember who said this but PM me who did say it, and I'll quote him properly)

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                            • BezO
                              MVP
                              • Jul 2004
                              • 4414

                              #134
                              Re: Behind the Pitcher Cam

                              Anyone able to hit from the "behind the pitcher" view? I've always like that view more. Pitching from it is fine, but I've never been able to bat from that view.
                              Shout out to The Watcher! Where you at bruh?

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                              • BezO
                                MVP
                                • Jul 2004
                                • 4414

                                #135
                                Re: Behind the Pitcher Cam

                                Anyone able to hit from the "behind the pitcher" view? I've always like that view more. Pitching from it is fine, but I've never been able to bat from that view.
                                Shout out to The Watcher! Where you at bruh?

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