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  • rsnomar05
    MVP
    • Dec 2003
    • 3662

    #31
    Re: Most unrealistic single game ever!

    Originally posted by Dman4Life8017
    I've yet to see a CPU owned team offer a trade in the beginning of the season, let alone accept one. And I've only gone beyond 9 innings with one pitcher, and that was RJ. I know Schilling and Clemens can do it, but that's just about it because they have insane stamina. Putting the game on "pure baseball" solves all those problems. I'm currently in the middle of a season with the Yankees and I'm 52-28, and everyone seems to be right where they would be in real life. The only trade I made was Pavano for Hudson, and I pulled that one off because Hudson had lost 4 straight, and the Braves were dumping him. Also, the K-zone is just as easy as the Meter pitching in MVP. Once you get use to it, you can pretty much do what you want. The kicker is the pressure meter. That effects your pitches drastically. MVP, once you have the meter timing down, you can throw strikes all day.
    If you don't believe me about the trade, go into GM Mode with the Red Sox and, when the owner tells you to get rid of Clemente, offer him and Ahearn for Ben Sheets. It will work, and then you'll believe me.

    "I have played games where there are no errors whatsoever in a game. I don't know what your sliders are set at, you agree with the poster that they don't work? I still can't believe the thing with Sheets pitching. Put the game on LEGEND and if you can come back here and tell me Sheets goes 20 innings again, then I can only assume you're one of the gamers who can master video games. I play on LEGEND and I get my butt kicked almost everytime."

    Jim, I never said the sliders didn't work. I said that often times they will bring up another problem. And yes, I am seeing more errors with AI Errors set to 50 (I actually now have it at 45), which is logical. Why? Because I INCREASED AI ERRORS. Thus, more errors. I am not getting a ton, but I am getting more than I did before hand. I can live with that, however, as it's much better than the passed ball issue.

    You tell me to bump it up to Legend, and if it happens again I'll be a "video game master?" You're missing the point that a pitcher should not physically be capable of throwing 20 innings of shutout ball. He should either get injured or throw up meatballs if the K-Zone is even a tad-bit off. And no, I don't get the K-Zone lined up perfectly every time or even close to every time. And why should I bump it up to Legend if I am getting close games at All-Star and am winning about 50% of the games I play? If I put the game on Rookie, I still shouldn't be able to go 20 innings. Pro? Nope, because throwing 20 innings with a pitcher is and should be impossible. It shouldn't even come down to user skill. And in this case (because I lose games on All-Star fairly frequently) I don't think it did.

    I don't see why some of you feel the need to defend this game to death. I've already said I like it much better than MVP. But it is also a flawed baseball game (like with the passed ball issue), with bugs that should not have made it past testing. No baseball game is perfect, and neither is this one. You can believe that this game has noting wrong with it, that I never traded for Sheets, or that he never threw 20 innings. But, if I say I like this game better than MVP (I've never played 989's offering because I don't have a PS2), why would I lie? It happened, and you can either accept it or deny it, but this game is not perfect. It's a great game, but it has its issues, and this 20 inning thing is one of them.

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    • fossen
      Bl*bfl*th z*p!
      • Jul 2002
      • 7098

      #32
      Re: Most unrealistic single game ever!

      Originally posted by rsnomar05
      You're missing the point that a pitcher should not physically be capable of throwing 20 innings of shutout ball. He should either get injured or throw up meatballs if the K-Zone is even a tad-bit off. And no, I don't get the K-Zone lined up perfectly every time or even close to every time.
      I don't agree.

      This is a videogame, and part of that is user participation. If you can pitch effectively with no gas left in the tank .... then more power to you. But the game should not "force" anything in order to get you to conform to some idea of how a game be.

      This isn't a matter of defending 2K .... it's a matter of videogame aesthetics. No game should take away control from the user.

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      • fossen
        Bl*bfl*th z*p!
        • Jul 2002
        • 7098

        #33
        Re: Most unrealistic single game ever!

        Originally posted by rsnomar05
        You're missing the point that a pitcher should not physically be capable of throwing 20 innings of shutout ball. He should either get injured or throw up meatballs if the K-Zone is even a tad-bit off. And no, I don't get the K-Zone lined up perfectly every time or even close to every time.
        I don't agree.

        This is a videogame, and part of that is user participation. If you can pitch effectively with no gas left in the tank .... then more power to you. But the game should not "force" anything in order to get you to conform to some idea of how a game be.

        This isn't a matter of defending 2K .... it's a matter of videogame aesthetics. No game should take away control from the user.

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        • jim416
          Banned
          • Feb 2003
          • 10606

          #34
          Re: Most unrealistic single game ever!

          I don't see why some of you feel the need to defend this game to death.

          Nobody is defending the game to death. It's just hard to understand what level/settings you were playing on to have this happen. My comment about LEGEND level was that most gamers are going to get raked at this level. If you can run it up to that level and have the same thing happen with Sheets, then you're just too good for the game.

          Fossen is also right about the game. If you thought it was unreasonable, yank him after 9-10 innings. But again, I'm playing the same game you're playing and not seeing this. I watch the health meter and notice that my guy starts throwing more balls when his stamina gets down to the red.

          Does this game have flaws? Yes, they all do.

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          • jim416
            Banned
            • Feb 2003
            • 10606

            #35
            Re: Most unrealistic single game ever!

            I don't see why some of you feel the need to defend this game to death.

            Nobody is defending the game to death. It's just hard to understand what level/settings you were playing on to have this happen. My comment about LEGEND level was that most gamers are going to get raked at this level. If you can run it up to that level and have the same thing happen with Sheets, then you're just too good for the game.

            Fossen is also right about the game. If you thought it was unreasonable, yank him after 9-10 innings. But again, I'm playing the same game you're playing and not seeing this. I watch the health meter and notice that my guy starts throwing more balls when his stamina gets down to the red.

            Does this game have flaws? Yes, they all do.

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            • bigfnjoe96
              Hall Of Fame
              • Feb 2004
              • 11410

              #36
              Re: Most unrealistic single game ever!

              RSNomar05, you keep saying that you shouldn't have to raise the sliders. We'll just a heads-up. 50 is the default for the sliders in this game. Anything over 50 is raising & anything under 50 is lower. The sliders don't begin @ 0, they begin @ 50. Now a days sports games are not made to play well out of the box. I'm sorry to tell ya. This is why there are sliders.

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              • bigfnjoe96
                Hall Of Fame
                • Feb 2004
                • 11410

                #37
                Re: Most unrealistic single game ever!

                RSNomar05, you keep saying that you shouldn't have to raise the sliders. We'll just a heads-up. 50 is the default for the sliders in this game. Anything over 50 is raising & anything under 50 is lower. The sliders don't begin @ 0, they begin @ 50. Now a days sports games are not made to play well out of the box. I'm sorry to tell ya. This is why there are sliders.

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