2017 Roster-MLB 2K13 (360)

[Johnny1029]

Re: 2017 Roster-MLB 2K13 (360)

Right now I'm working on offensive stats for over 900 players including offensive stats for pitchers who all have sample sizes to go from. I can look at minor league player equations once I know the major league ones are good.

[justblazedown3]

Re: 2017 Roster-MLB 2K13 (360)

I use brooks baseball for pitch speeds, and movement


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As do i it has real pitch types, speeds, and tendencies. I use speeds from this site and tendencies but take movement from the show and can obviously know someone who throws a sinker gets a 2fb sometimes so keep an eye out for the pitches to keep them authentic. JV throws a 2FB not a 4FB watch his FB in real life it has crazy life....

And the speed thing is up for debate as i feel both games have a different set of sabermetrics for that. Iggy should be 88-90 and upton has speed i watched him steal a base a week ago a d he took it with ease and his jump, stride was sick!

[Johnny1029]

Re: 2017 Roster-MLB 2K13 (360)

I tend to use Fangraphs because they state what pitches a pitcher user along with their accuracy, movement, speed, and tendency to use certain pitches. It's a one stop shop for my ratings.

[GMAB8]

Re: 2017 Roster-MLB 2K13 (360)

As do i it has real pitch types, speeds, and tendencies. I use speeds from this site and tendencies but take movement from the show and can obviously know someone who throws a sinker gets a 2fb sometimes so keep an eye out for the pitches to keep them authentic. JV throws a 2FB not a 4FB watch his FB in real life it has crazy life....

And the speed thing is up for debate as i feel both games have a different set of sabermetrics for that. Iggy should be 88-90 and upton has speed i watched him steal a base a week ago a d he took it with ease and his jump, stride was sick!

But don't you like the noticeable difference in speed from the just "fast" guys and the elite burners? How critical is speed in the fielding aspect of the game engine? I know the anticipation was taken out for good reason right? I like the fact that if I have a guy with concrete bricks strapped to his feet in the outfield, it's going to cost me. I haven't played the game enough to know how much all of these ratings play a role and what role they actually do play. I am seriously thrilled to see all of the effort being put into the roster though!

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[Johnny1029]

Re: 2017 Roster-MLB 2K13 (360)

So here's what I have so far in terms of offense. There's over 900 players with their ratings in this file. Some players have #DIV/0! error in their Aggression and Acceleration categories but that's due to the lack of data for those players. I'm pretty sure it's for pitchers so those could literally be changed to 25 if need.

Anyway, here's the file I've been working on:

https://drive.google.com/file/d/0B4EMnO7TUPQTR1FORUd4eUttWGM/view?usp=sharing

Enjoy.

[justblazedown3]

Re: 2017 Roster-MLB 2K13 (360)

For the pitches turning red. Its because if you throw it to much it becomes easier for the opp to see it and hit it. If it gets hit a few times then its pretty much useless. So you have to be skill full and work the edges and keep em off balance!

[shogunofharlem3]

Re: 2017 Roster-MLB 2K13 (360)

Unfortunately it isn't that simple. Take for instance a knuckleballer. It is near impossible to pitch with them. A knuckleballer will throw 75+ percent knuckleballs per game.

This game doesn't allow that. Even with a tendency of say 75, it still turns red and makes the pitch fairly useless. Then take some of the long relievers that only have 2 pitches. Good luck keeping those from the red.

The mechanic is a great idea but wasn't implemented properly. I wish it was more based on sequence, example, if you tend to always throw 1-2 sliders away, that would make the pitch red based on sequence or something like that.

[justblazedown3]

Re: 2017 Roster-MLB 2K13 (360)

Unfortunately it isn't that simple. Take for instance a knuckleballer. It is near impossible to pitch with them. A knuckleballer will throw 75+ percent knuckleballs per game.

This game doesn't allow that. Even with a tendency of say 75, it still turns red and makes the pitch fairly useless. Then take some of the long relievers that only have 2 pitches. Good luck keeping those from the red.

The mechanic is a great idea but wasn't implemented properly. I wish it was more based on sequence, example, if you tend to always throw 1-2 sliders away, that would make the pitch red based on sequence or something like that.

If you throw it three times and in the next again the third batter is gonna have a better read as most hitters get timing from watching what the pitcher throws to other batters. If your using to 2 of 4 pitches they will be over used and less effectbut if you change it up they dont know whats coming. Ive thrown several no hitters so i think i got a good perspective on this.

[GMAB8]

Re: 2017 Roster-MLB 2K13 (360)

If you throw it three times and in the next again the third batter is gonna have a better read as most hitters get timing from watching what the pitcher throws to other batters. If your using to 2 of 4 pitches they will be over used and less effectbut if you change it up they dont know whats coming. Ive thrown several no hitters so i think i got a good perspective on this.

I think the problem is that in MLB pitchers with a good pitch can utilize that pitch. I don't think a batter is timing up a pitch because the pitcher has thrown it 10 times to the first 3 batters. What I don't like about the pitches turning red is the fact that you can make a good pitch with it on the corner or just out of the zone and it will still get roped if it is in the red.

What I don't know about however--and this just popped in my head as I was typing--what happens when you make a "perfect" pitch by lining up the spokes of the pitch meter--on a pitch that you have overused and is in the red? Does that affect the outcome? I know, because it is a rare occasion, that when I make a perfectly timed pitch, the results are almost always really good. I only make a handful of perfect pitches per game, I haven't played a ton of this game!

What slider setting makes this easier to accomplish? Pitch meter speed?

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[GMAB8]

Re: 2017 Roster-MLB 2K13 (360)

I guess what I am trying to figure out is if there is a way to counteract the pitches turning red. If we make the user pitching better or the hitting worse, will it make a difference?



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[GreenLightning]

Re: 2017 Roster-MLB 2K13 (360)

I guess what I am trying to figure out is if there is a way to counteract the pitches turning red. If we make the user pitching better or the hitting worse, will it make a difference?



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It cannot be fixed they screwed up the implementation of the idea.

[GMAB8]

Re: 2017 Roster-MLB 2K13 (360)

It cannot be fixed they screwed up the implementation of the idea.

So it's just a matter of finding the right slider settings to make it so the cpu hitting isn't ridiculous--or the user pitching is manageable.

We need a good slider discussion going. I know there are some good sets out there, but are very difficult and meant for the most experienced gamers.

I'd love to hear some modifications from other users and which sliders to adjust to make reasonable changes.

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[Guns02]

Re: 2017 Roster-MLB 2K13 (360)

Please for the next update... re-create the face of Gary sanchez, thanks

[GreenLightning]

Re: 2017 Roster-MLB 2K13 (360)

So it's just a matter of finding the right slider settings to make it so the cpu hitting isn't ridiculous--or the user pitching is manageable.

We need a good slider discussion going. I know there are some good sets out there, but are very difficult and meant for the most experienced gamers.

I'd love to hear some modifications from other users and which sliders to adjust to make reasonable changes.

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The only thing that will help at all is to turn User Pitching Composure way down and nerf the CPU Hitting a bit. I'm not a good enough player to use the most difficult settings.

[GreenLightning]

Re: 2017 Roster-MLB 2K13 (360)

Please for the next update... re-create the face of Gary sanchez, thanks

I don't think it is that simple.