The "OS Breakdown" of the 2K9 Slider Theory

[Bahnzo]

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Tweaking this could also lead to some ground balls.

I fixed your post!

Lack of ground ball hits so far is a concern also.

I actually liked the slider options from 2K8, I kinda wish they would've kept those and actually tweaked them to work better.

[rock85]

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I'm interested in the three at the top; Success, Contact and Power.

• Success, like last year, probably influences the "quality" of hits when the CPU makes contact
• Contact probably influences the computer's overall ability to make contact
• Power probably influences the computer's output of doubles, triples and homeruns.

Lowering contact, while not influencing when the CPU swings, will reduce the likelihood it connects. That in theory could lead to deeper at bats.

Yes and that could mean more swings and misses in the strike zone. I am sure there is going to have to be some tinkering with that slider (contact) and success slider

[Bahnzo]

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I know-1 thing, I'm glad the have a Practice Mode this year to test different slider theories

That's assuming that Practice Mode uses sliders. But you're right, if they do it will help immensely with tweaking.

[bigfnjoe96]

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Good discussion everyone, let's keep those ideas going. Need some coffee to get the brain working. I'll be back later..

[sask3m]

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i'd like to know who came up with the ridiculous slider definitions, i mean would it be so hard as to actually give a clue as to what they actually do without us having to guess? Hopefully Simballer or someother 2k dev can give us an explanation to these sliders in english.

[bigfnjoe96]

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i'd like to know who came up with the ridiculous slider definitions, i mean would it be so hard as to actually give a clue as to what they actually do without us having to guess? Hopefully Simballer or someother 2k dev can give us an explanation to these sliders in english.

sask3m, I hoping that when the Online Manual is available(hopefully within days of release) we get a detailed description to every slider ala NBA 2K9:

http://2ksports.com/nba2k9manuals/NB...Manual_360.pdf

this is really the only hope we have to a accurate description of what the Hitting & Pitching Sliders actually do

[sask3m]

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sask3m, I hoping that when the Online Manual is available(hopefully within days of release) we get a detailed description to every slider ala NBA 2K9:

http://2ksports.com/nba2k9manuals/NB...Manual_360.pdf

this is really the only hope we have to a accurate description of what the Hitting & Pitching Sliders actually do

yes that would help, otherwise it's just a crap shoot.

[jeffy777]

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Yes, we really need an official break down, that would be amazing.

[therizing02]

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Yes, we really need an official break down, that would be amazing.

Agreed Jeff.

I've always thought that there were way too many sliders in MLB 2Kx. I'd like to see them simplify things like MVP did.

Hitting sliders:

Contact
Power
Swing frequency
Foul balls

Done. Simple and they are self explanatory.

Many of the sliders seem to be repetitive. Contact, Power, and Batting Success?

I'd really like to see what these sliders actually mean:

**Batting Pitch Influence
**Hold Timing Influence
**AI Pitch Selection Tendency
**AI Strike Zone Tendency/AI Pitch Zone Tendency....What in the hell is this? Seems repetitive.


It also seems that sliders that have to do with player ratings should be maxed out. Correct? IE Influence, Pitcher Composure Influence, Pitch Rating Influence. No?

I'd like the player ratings to have their maximum effectiveness with stick skills meaning less. Seems like maxing out these sliders will be the only way. If plate discipline or something like it is a player rating, then maybe it could resolve the swing frequency problem of the CPU.

[mdiggitydawg]

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given all the changes in this year's edition, ball park it for me Joe...how long after you get the game in your hands will you be able to work out some usable sliders ? no pressure....just wondering

[bigfnjoe96]

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given all the changes in this year's edition, ball park it for me Joe...how long after you get the game in your hands will you be able to work out some usable sliders ? no pressure....just wondering

I'm gonna test the game hard for a couple of weeks before I put out a set of sliders.

[SFGiantsPBA]

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I'm gonna test the game hard for a couple of weeks before I put out a set of sliders.

Agreed, unlike most not saying you didn't but I didn't put my set out until after I had like 88 complete games played.

People think they can just tweak it play 2 games and whala but it don't work this way as silders must be tested many time in different games to make a outcome of variety.

Like me Joe won't settle for just tuning down homers or making the game a pitchers game we want all in it, high run games, low run games, no homer games, multi homer games, pitchers gems and no hitters. We want baseball!

We also want decent amount of errors but fluid feilding.

We want resonable speed on the bags just as well on the feild.

We want to steal bases but want to get thrown out also.

We want pitch counts damn it!

Pick off has to be fair.

Contact must be made but not too dam easy.

Got to have Power but not Homer Happy Power.

I want to strike you out but make it harder to hit spots so I do draw more walks without have to try to walk you.

I know there is more but this is just an example of stuff that all has to fit together to make a good set work and it take time to do so.

[DarthRambo]

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Im so excited about getting the gam first off! The slider definitioons are pretty weak though... Im trying to compare them with 2k8's but there are alot of new ones. Why can't they just keep the same sliders and tweak on those year after year until its right?!?!?

I posted my sliders from last year on the forum, which were really good, do we know if you have the option of using swing-stick, and classic hitting again like last years? I personally used classic(couldn't do the swing stick, maybe cuz Im left handed haha).

And where are the sliders for fielding/base running etc...?

Really ned explanation of each slider so we know wha it does, instead of guessing. Will cut down time drastically on tweaking them to find the "perfect" set for you.

[Trevytrev11]

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I know Joe posted all fo the screen's of the sliders on the first page, but here is the consolidated list posted today by TJ (who already has the game):

User Settings - Batting
Batting Success
Batting Contact
Batting Power
Pitcher Handedness Influence
Inside Edge Batting Zone Influence
Batting Pitch Influence
Batter's Eye Influence
Hit Direction Influence

CPU Settings - Batting
AI Batting Success
AI Batting Contact
AI Batting Power
AI Pitcher Handedness Influence
AI Inside Edge Batting Zone Influence
AI Batting Pitch Influence
AI Bunt Contact
AI Bunt Success

User Settings - Pitching
Pitch Meter Speed
Pitch Speed
Gesture Recognition
Hold Timing Influence
Release Timing Influence
Pitch Rating Influence
Pitch Break Influence
Pitcher Composure Influence

CPU Settings - Pitching
AI Pitch SUccess
AI Pitch Selection Tendency
AI Strike Zone Tendency
AI Pitch Zone Tendency
AI Pitcher Composure Influence

User Settings - Fielding
Fielding Errors
Throw Meter Influence
Fielder Speed

CPU Settings - Fielding
AI Fielding Errors
AI Fielder Speed

User Settings - Running
Base Runner Speed
Pickoff Success
Catcher Throw-Out Success

CPU Settings - Running
AI Hit'n'Run Tendency
AI Sacrafice Bunt Tendency
AI Squeeze Tendency
AI Base Running Aggression
AI Steal Aggression
AI Steal Success

a) AI Inside Edge Batting Zone Influence
b) AI Batting Pitch Influence

These two are the most intriguing as far as AI hitting goes, but by their name they seem to impact only how well a hitter does at hitting a) pitches in a certain zone based on their IE %'s and b) certain pitch types.

Nothing seems to stand out about whether or not they will swing at or take more pitches in and out of the zone. It seems that often times the outcome of a hit is also semi-dependant on how well the pitcher executes a certain pitch (In other words if a pitcher perfectly executes a pitch, he is basically given a bonus on the pitch which make the hitter automatically less sucessful against it)...I hope none of this is true, because the actual pitch (speed, location, movement) would take care of all of that and no "bonus" is needed.

Also, suprised/dissapointed that there is no

Fielder throwing speed slider
Injury slider

[bulls23]

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We may not need the injury slider. There are already a couple of videos that show injuries. One to Sabathia I remember.