mkharsh33's Sliders...Classic Hitting

[Solid-Hock]

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Am I the only one who thinks the pitch speed is too slow? I like for 90 mph to actually look like 90. What would be the best setting for that?

[redsox32]

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Am I the only one who thinks the pitch speed is too slow? I like for 90 mph to actually look like 90. What would be the best setting for that?

I use these sliders as a base for mine and i tweak alittle for my style of play, but the one thing i did notice is that the pitch speed was set at 65. Which to me is really slow and i wanted like you said a 90mph fastball to look like it, so i boosted the pitch speed to 85 and i still hit the ball, but a guy who throws 95+ you will feel it, so it makes me guess pitches which is nice....my dad who is 59 has his on 80 so i think 80-85 is the best....

[turbodood]

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These look good.

Question though. Is the basis for these because of a preference to the classic hitting --- or because of frustration with the total control hitting in this year's game.

In 2k9 with practice I got --- good enough with the pro level that I could at least get semi-realistic numbers with the sliders as-is. At least I think hey were as-is, I don't think it had the issues with turning all the achievments and stuff off just from touching them which everyone agrees is dumb.

In 2k10 though I'm really getting stressed out trying. Either I'm getting too old with this, or its just flawed. Even with 100 contact and 100 power it seems more random than anything else though it gets to east at that point. And with the default settings all I get are double plays and fly ball outs. I started a franchise with the cubs and literally the first 3 games went extras 0-0. Thats just silly.

So is that everyone else's problem or is it just me?

[Kernel Pie]

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How is your success of throwing out base stealers? I have my catcher throw out success at 95 and the CPU steal success at 5 and I STILL can't throw out even 70 speed/70 acc guys stealing second (using Joe Mauer and it doesn't matter who is pitching and what pitch -- he always throws it to the SS side of 2nd base)

Obviously there are some pitchers you can just steal on all the time. But this doesn't seem to matter for me -- slide step pitchers still have 0 success.

Been having the exact same problem. After like 10 successful steals in a row from the cpu, I move it to 100/0. Played one game like that, but they didn't try to steal. I'm gonna try it again, obviously.

[mkharsh33]

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Final Sliders noted in first post. This will be the last update.

I'm convinced that the "catcher throw-out success" slider is broken and therefore useless. I went with 75, but that could be rather meaningless. I want the CPU to steal, but I think this is also tied to the pitch speed slider, of which you cannot separate the speeds of the user vs. cpu pitcher (and I'm not going to raise that slider).

I'm loving the balance I get with CPU contact at 60...I can still strike them out and the big bats have to pitched to cautiously (which makes me walk them).

And even with user batting contact at 20, i'm still getting a good variety of hits. I also believe (having toyed with that) that it's tied to the power slider as well. At 100 I was seeing too many extra-base hits. Yet dropping it to 95 totally changed the game and made it much more fun (and I experimented by using the same two teams, playing multiple games, using the same pitchers...the variety was amazing once i settled on the final set).

thanks for all the feedback and hope you guys enjoy them!

[mkharsh33]

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Scratch the last post...

Changed two things:

User Catcher Throw Out Success: 100
CPU Steal Success: 45

I still believe this part of the game is broken and these changes may do nothing, but you are totally hung out to dry by the CPU when it comes to stealing, and I also hate the fact that I can steal so easily it's not even funny (I have to contain myself there, so I try to only steal in "key situations").

Both noted in post #1...

[CardsGamer5]

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You have new sliders.....damn. That's bittersweet. I'm currently throwing a perfect game with the sliders you had up about a month ago, and was gonna post it. Darn.

[mkharsh33]

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You have new sliders.....damn. That's bittersweet. I'm currently throwing a perfect game with the sliders you had up about a month ago, and was gonna post it. Darn.

LOL!! Well, how did your game play out?

I have been playing some "for fun" games lately using the pro-default sliders (achievement points) and threw a complete game shutout with David Price (against the Astros) in which I won 1-0, scoring a run in the bottom of the 9th.

[CardsGamer5]

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LOL!! Well, how did your game play out?

I have been playing some "for fun" games lately using the pro-default sliders (achievement points) and threw a complete game shutout with David Price (against the Astros) in which I won 1-0, scoring a run in the bottom of the 9th.

Well, they tied the game 1-1 in the 9th (they broke up my perfecto with a decent hit grounder up the middle) but Jonathon Sanchez still had 20k's. Next inning I got a 3-1 lead but blew it with Storen, than I gave it up the next inning

[mkharsh33]

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If anyone is still lurking around here, I have made some changes and this is now my "tentative" final set (LOL!). But after a lot more testing, what I have found is that pitcher composure rating is HUGE in this game. I have lowered the user to 75 and raised the CPU's to match. I also raised user fielder speed to 45 (from 40) - plays much better now. Always felt a bit sluggish...

I raised Throw Meter Influence from 0 to 100 - I had an error (Scott Rolen) which was my first non-catcher or non-pitcher error, so maybe there is something to this...

I believe this is the set I will now begin a dynasty with (yeah, a little on this, but I wanted to get them right before realizing later that I bombed on them - which could still be the case).

[DavonBrown]

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Tentative? LOL. You'll never settle.

[vermont1998]

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Hi man, here we are, hehe.

Thanks for your work and feedback with your sliders by the way.. they´re great.

I have a problem but not sure you guys had it.

This is the thing:

Maybe im very patiente at the plate. I work the count a lot and get the 3-2 count at least one batter per inning i think. So this is it, i can get Lincecum, Sabathia, or similar to lets say 80 pitches around 5-6 innings, but at that same time my pitchers (using Braves and Rays) are around 60 pitches all the time, so:

I can not set the pitchers´ fatigue properly!!

I tried lowering CPU contact to 40 (CPU power 100) to make them take more pitches and even that way i hardly need more than 10-12 pitcher per inning. Same thing with CPU Contact at 50 to 70

If i set pitchers´fatigue at 50 CPU starters wont go more than 4 innings and mines will go 6 inninings or even 7 doing well

If i set pitchers´fatigue at 45 CPU starters will go 6 innings but mines will go 8

If i take a look at the total pitches thrown at the end of the game i have a +1 diference between my ratio and CPU ratio (CPU takes aprox 3 pitches per batter and i take aprox 4. This diference keeps going all my games using diferent teams, what at the end of some innings is a huge diference in pitchers´stamina

Didnt you had / have this problem??

I tried raising CPU Strike Tendency to 50 but then i sarted to hit no less than 2-3 homers per game (sometimes 4-6) even with Human Power at 75.

My actual sliders (in case you need to figure out something)

Batting
CPU 45-90
Hum 25-80
Strike Zone Only batter, Batters eye on

Pitching
CPU Succes 75, Tendency 45 Composure 30
Hum All 100 except Pitch speed 70

Fielding 45 both Hum and CPU

Running
Runner Speed 50

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By the way, my cameras are
Pitcher 1:
1 - 5 - 5
Batting 3:
8 - 5

I know you said you use default cameras but you should try them, i really think they are great.

Thanks again for all your work here

[mkharsh33]

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Yeah, you've noted a problem that 2K needs to fix...and it's a continuous one: pitcher fatigue is terrible in this game. Sorry to say, there is no fix. So you have to have some restraint on your own end, and that takes the fun away... Until they create SEPARATE SLIDERS for user and cpu they will never get this correct. Simply put, there's nothing we can do about this...

Your sliders look solid. All I've tried to do is provide a base that gives a challenge but keeps it fun. Tweak them to your own liking as you know what you enjoy best.

I have also changed my batting camera: Batter 3, Zoom 10, Height 5

I now feel like I'm seeing the ball much better...

But the fatigue issue is terrible. In my last game the CPU yanked Zito after less than THREE innings - really made me mad. There was no reason - even though he was struggling, He had only thrown around 50 pitches at that point and the score was 3-2 in HIS favor.

Also, I'm seeing a lot of faulty CPU logic with late inning relief pitchers. Instead of lefty-lefty or righty-righty matchups, they ALWAYS go with the opposite. There is no reasoning in their decisions.

But I've stopped posting at the 2K forums as it's a pool of jackasses there. It appears that some of the cruel idiots are tight with each other, so it's no use trying to share any observations because it's always met with sarcasm. That's why I LOVE the forums here as we're civil, polite and just trying to get things figured out to help each other.

But thanks for sharing your thoughts! Hope you're having fun with this game because at the end of the day, that's what matters.

[l3ulvl]

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I have also changed my batting camera: Batter 3, Zoom 10, Height 5

I now feel like I'm seeing the ball much better...

I just tried this angle for the first time after seeing your comment and I'm surprised this helps you see it better. Which camera did you use previously?

If you get a chance, give batter cam 1 zoom 10 height 7 a chance and see how that works for you.

I feel like it gives an extra split second to read the pitch. Your option was cool because you can clearly see the pitchers entire body within the strike zone (I keep it on), but my reaction time stinks and the ball gets on me too quickly.

[mkharsh33]

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I'll look at that camera angle. The problem for me is the depth perception. When using the default for batting, I felt I was too deep and I couldn't time up my swings. Now that I'm closer I sense the pitch better. Seems strange, I suppose, but I'm really starting to "get it" with this game since I've made the change.

I'm still tweaking the steal sliders...I just think those are broken and pointless. Also, I've settled on user batting power at 90 and CPU batting power at 100. But I think it's finally come together for me and I'll post those changes sometime soon. We've got a big deal at our church this week (VBS) that all of our kids are part of and my wife and I are on the volunteer staff and it's taking a lot of my time.

Thanks for the feedback... I was starting to wonder if many are even still playing this game.