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  • BlackBetty15
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    • Sep 2010
    • 1548

    #1

    Some things to consider w/OF/IF run speed sliders and OF throw speeds...Read

    So I have played a solid months worth of franchise games with my nationals with I believe balzzens sliders and I have come to a discovery with the sliders set that have really opened up the game in about three areas:

    1. OF/IF speeds - Everyone on here has their slider speed set to the min of 30 for BOTH the OF/IF. The problem I ran into with this was there were no seperation of speed vs the "jim edmonds" of baseball if you will. ESPECIALLY in the infield. It seemed like to mnay balls were getting reached with very little effort by even the mediocre of fielders. Then I thought about how this game was developed out of the box with the players ratings being the focus. I since then have set this game back to 20 at the default and this is where it needs to be if you want some sim and realistic results. I have since then seen animations that have surfaced out of nowhere and looked awesome. Like when I played the marlins and I saw a sweet glove flip to turn two against me. Or when the Zim master dove for Q shot down the 3B line that if the slider was any higher than 20 he would have just ran to it and gloved it. Trust me 20 (for user/CPU) is the magic number as the game was developed around the player ratings with this slider in mind.

    OF throw speed - This took some time to get down but either way it has to be tweaked to be anything near realistic. 70 is MY magic number. I get a good balance of OF assists where appropriate and more importantly I get the feel of an actual MLB throw...especially since sometimes animations get in this sort of momentum block where nothing happens and I am waiting for the dummy to throw and what should have been a single, the hesitation costs me a double. Trust me when I say 70 is a good place to be. IF throw speed I left at blazzens (which is at 60) because I felt it was perfect.

    Baserunner speed - this frustrates me so much because the aniamtions are so off that its hard to really guage what is a true perfect spped to be at. I left it a blazzens deafult which is 35 and I am happy with what I get. You might not be, but would say start here at 35 and go DOWN if anything. Going any higher will piss yall off to no end with the unrealistic doubles and triples.

    All in all I wanted to post this because it has made a huge difference in playing the games. What I wish I could do is change the CPU batting AI somehow as I feel they are too patient with pitches. Its like I am FORCED into throwing thier pitch no matter what, but then again I guess that is what MLB talent si SUPPOSED to do! LOL The only thing else I changes was the CPU pitch sucess up to 75 just because I hit really well...my boy danny espinosa is killing the league as well as jason werth which is a surprise for sure! Have fun with the game with these sliders. Something as small as this changes the dynamics of the game for sure.
    Last edited by BlackBetty15; 07-09-2011, 09:45 PM.
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  • mkharsh33
    Hall Of Fame
    • Nov 2006
    • 12758

    #2
    Re: Some things to consider w/OF/IF run speed sliders and OF throw speeds...Read

    interesting take...what about infield throw speeds?
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    • BlackBetty15
      MVP
      • Sep 2010
      • 1548

      #3
      Re: Some things to consider w/OF/IF run speed sliders and OF throw speeds...Read

      Originally posted by mkharsh33
      interesting take...what about infield throw speeds?
      I left it at Blazzens recomendation which I believe was 60(it is 60 BTW I just checked). You will have to check but this was golden for the ratings of players.

      *something to ponder on the side that I myself am taking a closer look at. Strikeouts are at an alltime high to go along with generally poor batting averages. I think ESPN or MLB.com put out a pretty astoninshong article talking about the lack of skill in hitting this year and therefore someof the sliders need to be reworked to reflect actual life tendecies. The majority of slider stats that people were operating with are based off the opposite effect.
      Last edited by BlackBetty15; 07-09-2011, 06:35 PM.
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      • PutridExistence
        Rookie
        • Apr 2011
        • 86

        #4
        Re: Some things to consider w/OF/IF run speed sliders and OF throw speeds...Read

        Can you put these in a list for us dummies? Like:

        IF speed:
        OF speed:

        etc.

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        • mkharsh33
          Hall Of Fame
          • Nov 2006
          • 12758

          #5
          Re: Some things to consider w/OF/IF run speed sliders and OF throw speeds...Read

          ^^ To simplify his thread:

          IF speed: 20
          OF speed: 20
          IF throw speed: 60
          OF throw speed: 70

          Someone might want to double-check my ability to read, but I think this sums it up!
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          • BrianU
            MVP
            • Nov 2008
            • 1565

            #6
            Re: Some things to consider w/OF/IF run speed sliders and OF throw speeds...Read

            Great thread like your ideas BB i tried your settings for a few innings and saw a nice david wright diving stop and some close of grabs which i very rarely saw before. Gonna stick with these for my mets chise on mks rosters

            If this works out and keeps the stats realistic it would give you a reason to have defensive minded players on your team to sub late innings and such. Adds more strategy problem is the cpu manager is so stupid he wouldnt play along but oh well.

            Only concern is if it increases triples too much. i use blazzens mixed with mks with a few tweaks using hit stick. Do you have any other changes to blazzens sliders besides the if/of and pitch success Great work if you mk and blazzen all teamed up it would be the super slider set of all time!

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            • BlackBetty15
              MVP
              • Sep 2010
              • 1548

              #7
              Re: Some things to consider w/OF/IF run speed sliders and OF throw speeds...Read

              Originally posted by mkharsh33
              ^^ To simplify his thread:

              IF speed: 20
              OF speed: 20
              IF throw speed: 60
              OF throw speed: 70

              Someone might want to double-check my ability to read, but I think this sums it up!
              And baserunning at 35...important on that one. I will upload the sliders on live tonight and post them, but I basically did blazzens set with the above changes. I also dropped the CPU power to 65 and their contact to 50, but thats it.
              Last edited by BlackBetty15; 07-09-2011, 09:46 PM. Reason: The sliders I use
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              • BlackBetty15
                MVP
                • Sep 2010
                • 1548

                #8
                Re: Some things to consider w/OF/IF run speed sliders and OF throw speeds...Read

                Originally posted by BrianU
                Great thread like your ideas BB i tried your settings for a few innings and saw a nice david wright diving stop and some close of grabs which i very rarely saw before. Gonna stick with these for my mets chise on mks rosters

                If this works out and keeps the stats realistic it would give you a reason to have defensive minded players on your team to sub late innings and such. Adds more strategy problem is the cpu manager is so stupid he wouldnt play along but oh well.

                Only concern is if it increases triples too much. i use blazzens mixed with mks with a few tweaks using hit stick. Do you have any other changes to blazzens sliders besides the if/of and pitch success Great work if you mk and blazzen all teamed up it would be the super slider set of all time!
                Yea the balance is in the Baserunning which is blazzens recomendation @35. Mixed with the OF throw speed this is really good. The only thing I changed from blazzen was:

                CPU/USER
                OF throw speed:70
                IF Throw speed: 60
                Baserunning: 35
                OF/IF run speed:20

                CPU power 65
                CPU contact 50

                Thats it, I do use MKharsh rosters with my own edit (2K made a really horrible danny espinosa so I created my own that looks awesome and I made my own bryce harper. I can upload those two dudes to the DNA share if everyone wants) Overall blazzen did an awesome job I just changed a little bit here and there and made the experience that much better.
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                • The Bimmer
                  Far from perfect
                  • Oct 2006
                  • 1236

                  #9
                  Re: Some things to consider w/OF/IF run speed sliders and OF throw speeds...Read

                  Wow, this is an interesting thread. With OF speed at 45, I get alot of doubles and have what I believe to be an accurate amount of triples in relation to my team speed. I fear at 20 for both OF and IF I will get way to many triples and hits through the infield.

                  Even though changing sliders mid franchise is not something I like doing, giving this a shot for a game cant hurt. Lets face it thats a big drop in speed for both.

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                  • BlackBetty15
                    MVP
                    • Sep 2010
                    • 1548

                    #10
                    Re: Some things to consider w/OF/IF run speed sliders and OF throw speeds...Read

                    Originally posted by The Bimmer
                    Wow, this is an interesting thread. With OF speed at 45, I get alot of doubles and have what I believe to be an accurate amount of triples in relation to my team speed. I fear at 20 for both OF and IF I will get way to many triples and hits through the infield.

                    Even though changing sliders mid franchise is not something I like doing, giving this a shot for a game cant hurt. Lets face it thats a big drop in speed for both.
                    I hear ya man, but the speed has to be done WITH the throw speeds and baserunning speeds together and you will have the desired effect. Try it out in play now
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                    • The Bimmer
                      Far from perfect
                      • Oct 2006
                      • 1236

                      #11
                      Re: Some things to consider w/OF/IF run speed sliders and OF throw speeds...Read

                      Originally posted by BlackBetty15
                      I hear ya man, but the speed has to be done WITH the throw speeds and baserunning speeds together and you will have the desired effect. Try it out in play now
                      Cool,I have OF throw speed at 60 now and baserunner at 35. So all I really will be doing is bumping the throw speed 10. We shall see. I will give some feedback after tomorrows game.

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                      • BlackBetty15
                        MVP
                        • Sep 2010
                        • 1548

                        #12
                        Re: Some things to consider w/OF/IF run speed sliders and OF throw speeds...Read

                        Originally posted by The Bimmer
                        Cool,I have OF throw speed at 60 now and baserunner at 35. So all I really will be doing is bumping the throw speed 10. We shall see. I will give some feedback after tomorrows game.
                        Yep that is pretty much it, couple that with the fielder speed and its interestingly enough a pretty sweet outcome. Now if I can only improve the graphics and some small hiccups the same way!
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                        • mkharsh33
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                          • Nov 2006
                          • 12758

                          #13
                          Re: Some things to consider w/OF/IF run speed sliders and OF throw speeds...Read

                          I'll admit those IF and OF running speeds scare me... I'll give them a look, but I've got the pitching sliders to be challenging and I'm scared of now having to start tinkering (I'm just about ready to do a fantasy franchise)... why do you guys do this to me?????
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                          • Th3Rush22
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                            • Sep 2010
                            • 157

                            #14
                            Re: Some things to consider w/OF/IF run speed sliders and OF throw speeds...Read

                            I will try it and give feedback and also if your getting to many triple you could lower the baserunner speed to 30 if you want
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                            • PMO
                              Banned
                              • Aug 2010
                              • 625

                              #15
                              Re: Some things to consider w/OF/IF run speed sliders and OF throw speeds...Read

                              Just changed to the 20 speed sliders and 60 throw speed for IF and 70 throw speed for OF and it is fantastic, great find man

                              p.s. I also have the base running speed at 35

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