mkharsh33 MLB 2K12 Sliders: Classic Hitting / Total Control Pitching

[FootballGuru6]

Re: mkharsh33 MLB 2K12 Sliders: Classic Hitting / Total Control Pitching

BrianU are you pitching really well with these sliders? I have been all over the plate with the pitch accuracy...just wanted to see if things have been the same for you?

[canes21]

Re: mkharsh33 MLB 2K12 Sliders: Classic Hitting / Total Control Pitching

I don't see how you can play with CPU power at 100. Anything I throw near the strike zone is a gapper. As the Braves against the Mets, I shouldn't give up 14 hits a game to them, I should dominate their line up even with my worst starter. I was able to use your sliders exactly last year, but there is now way I can play with the power sliders up so high, I'm in the minority and find this games offensive side a bit easy for both sides when last year I was lucky to have a game with a total of 4 runs between both teams.

I'm going to keep it at 100 for the last game of the series and see if I have another terrible pitchin performance. The sliders feel great except my pitching has been lacking or their offense is just better this year. I felt I was a good pitcher last year, but this year it feels the opposite.

[jbrown]

I don't see how you can play with CPU power at 100. Anything I throw near the strike zone is a gapper. As the Braves against the Mets, I shouldn't give up 14 hits a game to them, I should dominate their line up even with my worst starter. I was able to use your sliders exactly last year, but there is now way I can play with the power sliders up so high, I'm in the minority and find this games offensive side a bit easy for both sides when last year I was lucky to have a game with a total of 4 runs between both teams.

I'm going to keep it at 100 for the last game of the series and see if I have another terrible pitchin performance. The sliders feel great except my pitching has been lacking or their offense is just better this year. I felt I was a good pitcher last year, but this year it feels the opposite.

I had to move it down to 90 and they still tag me in some games. Gave up 7 in 4 ip with Lester against Miami a couple of games ago.

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[BrianU]

Re: mkharsh33 MLB 2K12 Sliders: Classic Hitting / Total Control Pitching

yeah I do pretty good pitching tho I've mostly used Johan will see how I do with Pelfrey. I don't have any trouble with location and even if I do miss I still don't get punished too badly.


some advice Don't use catcher suggestions turn that garbage off, throw inside (out of the zone) and outside out of the zone the cpu chases alot and I get quite a few foul balls from that, good way to get ahead of the count. my favorite way to k is high heat above the zone. really aim outside farther than you think you should they will chase and its safer if you miss. I get first pitch strike id say 70% of the time. Turn on the pitching tool that shows your right stick movement and the power of the pitch. between 80 and 100 is solid and will give you a strike foul or out most times. I never hit max pitch but almost always get a solid 80+ power. it says power but it really should say effectiveness. the worst thing you can do is fill the circle just past max which gives you 75% power and is very hittable. I rely on fastballs very much again I'm playing with johan mostly, I struggle when my pitcher doesn't have a decent fastball but I'm improving. Frank Francisco our closer has a 2 seem fb left to right, a splitter and a god awful curveball. I only throw changeups on the outside half and bottom half. I only throw curveball if in ahead in the count. I don't throw a pitch if its background is yellow or red it will get hit.


I pitch each player differently, based on experience I pitch inside to uggla as he HRs anything low and away. I setup inside vs heyward then k him with a slider outside. chipper gives me a hard time like he does the mets irl. I save my best pitch (circle change for johan) to use vs the best hitters or leadoff hitters. I do my best to not let bourn or any fast guy on base I pitch inside and top of zone vs him. prado chases a lot outside. this is all from experience but I suppose using inside edge could help. I don't use strike zone or vibration and use breakpoint its a fun challenge. if a guy whiffs bad im not afraid to throw the same pitch same location. now if only I could get tips on how to be more patient at the plate id be a happy mets fan. I find it best to not put my thumb over the right stick indent but use the edge of it to do the motions find what works for you. no shame in bumping control up 5 if you really need to, johan has great control I will post stats after I use pelfrey hope he get bombed. And im sure it helps all my games have been at Citi Field so far

[sigurd]

Re: mkharsh33 MLB 2K12 Sliders: Classic Hitting / Total Control Pitching

I don't see how you can play with CPU power at 100. Anything I throw near the strike zone is a gapper. As the Braves against the Mets, I shouldn't give up 14 hits a game to them, I should dominate their line up even with my worst starter. I was able to use your sliders exactly last year, but there is now way I can play with the power sliders up so high, I'm in the minority and find this games offensive side a bit easy for both sides when last year I was lucky to have a game with a total of 4 runs between both teams.

I'm going to keep it at 100 for the last game of the series and see if I have another terrible pitchin performance. The sliders feel great except my pitching has been lacking or their offense is just better this year. I felt I was a good pitcher last year, but this year it feels the opposite.

2 of my tweaks were user pitcher composure 5 less and control 5 more this helped me some. I like leaving the cpu power at 100 because if I hang a curveball it should be smacked.

[mkharsh33]

Re: mkharsh33 MLB 2K12 Sliders: Classic Hitting / Total Control Pitching

2 updates / Tuesday, March 13 @ 8:50 pm

- raise user outfield throw speed to 55 (from 40)

- raise cpu outfield throw speed to 55 (from 40)

I'm seeing the extra base hits now toned down and you will see some closer plays at the plate, creating a bit more excitement and some hesitation on whether you should take that extra base hit.

Regarding the issues some are noting: all you have to do is tweak something to fit your needs. If you're pitching is getting pounded, then change something. Personally, I'm not seeing it. But I play a slow, deliberate thought-out game. I'm not in a hurry and I think like a pitcher. Move pitches around, change speeds, change the eye level...just like in real life. I'm finding these to be the most sim-like sliders I've used in a baseball game, and the variety is amazing. I just chased Blackburn from the Twins (playing as the Angel) before he could get out of the first inning. I'd never done that before, so it was really fun. For those not liking these, you have other slider options here so I'd suggest giving them a look.

[canes21]

Re: mkharsh33 MLB 2K12 Sliders: Classic Hitting / Total Control Pitching

The only reason I was really saying much was because I used your sliders last year and had a bunch of low low scoring game with single digit hits, but in 2k12 I'm seeing every game have double digit hits per team with each team over 20 runs in series.

[Dolfan349]

Re: mkharsh33 MLB 2K12 Sliders: Classic Hitting / Total Control Pitching

I'm starting to feel like the cpu has comeback AI or something. Every time I have a big inning, so do they. I don't think I've won or lost by more than two after a half-dozen games.

I also use the catcher selection 100% of the time... I wonder if that has something to do with the pitching quality.

[canes21]

Re: mkharsh33 MLB 2K12 Sliders: Classic Hitting / Total Control Pitching

My pitching has gotten better, but my offense is unfortunately as inconsistent as the real Braves. My last two games have also been walk-off HR losses. The bright spot is McCann has 5 HRs in 3 games while Uggla has the only other one for my team. That is also Uggla's lone hit through 4 games, .057 with 1 HR haha.

[DonkeyJote]

Re: mkharsh33 MLB 2K12 Sliders: Classic Hitting / Total Control Pitching

Here's the thing with the pitching. It takes practice, but you'll get better. Bump up the control a bit and lower back as you get better. On last year's game, I believe he had is set at 25 originally. I couldn't do it at all. I was getting crushed. So I put it at 35. I got a little better, and I was dominating, so I dropped it to 30. I eventually ended up having it at 25. You will get better at it. When the control is so low, if your gestures are off, you'll throw bad pitches, including leaving the ball up over the plate a lot. That's the problem I have with the sinker too, especially with a left handed pitcher. For whatever reason, both on last year's game and this year's, I get tattooed with Johnny Venters. I think last year in my franchise his ERA was around 6.00, and it's worse this year.

[sigurd]

Re: mkharsh33 MLB 2K12 Sliders: Classic Hitting / Total Control Pitching

That is also Uggla's lone hit through 4 games, .057 with 1 HR haha.

hmm so about like the first half of last season.

[canes21]

Re: mkharsh33 MLB 2K12 Sliders: Classic Hitting / Total Control Pitching

Here's the thing with the pitching. It takes practice, but you'll get better. Bump up the control a bit and lower back as you get better. On last year's game, I believe he had is set at 25 originally. I couldn't do it at all. I was getting crushed. So I put it at 35. I got a little better, and I was dominating, so I dropped it to 30. I eventually ended up having it at 25. You will get better at it. When the control is so low, if your gestures are off, you'll throw bad pitches, including leaving the ball up over the plate a lot. That's the problem I have with the sinker too, especially with a left handed pitcher. For whatever reason, both on last year's game and this year's, I get tattooed with Johnny Venters. I think last year in my franchise his ERA was around 6.00, and it's worse this year.

Yea, I raised it one or two clicks. Last year I was able to use it on whatever he had it on from the start and I think I actually lowered it in my franchise, but for some reason this year my gestures are just not as good yet, or something else is different. But I'm definitely getting better at the game and am glad I didn't panic and change the sliders around. I figured it'd be smart to give myself 5 games at the very least to see how they played out and I've come to find out that was a great idea. I'm seeing a great and realistic variety of games, even more so than last years game with Mk's sliders.

[BrianU]

Re: mkharsh33 MLB 2K12 Sliders: Classic Hitting / Total Control Pitching

user skill is a huge factor to enjoying this game but these sliders make a great base. Plus everyone uses different teams/play in different ball parks and even use different cameras. Using Niese vs the braves I got shelled and control was a bit too worse when compared to Santana I could hit every spot. I think it's best to test pitch control using a mid tier guy. I myself may go to 20 control.

On the other side of things I switched up my batting camera and can finally work the count. I posted my camera on the main forum if anyone cares but it really saved the game for me. I had 14 hits and bases loaded twice vs Beachy if that keeps up I may need to lower user contact. The OF throwing speed has been working great, things look very natural no complaints atm

[MFin04]

Re: mkharsh33 MLB 2K12 Sliders: Classic Hitting / Total Control Pitching

The speed of players is really the last thing that needs ironing out. It's hard to have a game where guys can get infield singles, yet not get triples when the ball is hit to the outfield.

I've had a few guys thrown out at 2nd on balls hit to the warning track. That shouldn't happen. Not to mention there is no such thing as a infield hit or "gather" error because they computer always recovers with enough time to throw the runner out.

Increasing runner speeds only makes it easier to score, get doubles, triples or steal bases...so all the sliders involved with throwing, running, etc need to be looked at.

[bc3po]

Re: mkharsh33 MLB 2K12 Sliders: Classic Hitting / Total Control Pitching

Not to mention there is no such thing as a infield hit or "gather" error because they computer always recovers with enough time to throw the runner out.

I had the cpu 2B airmail a throw into the dugout against me yesterday. I got a free base with that one. It can happen