mkharsh33 MLB 2K12 Sliders: Classic Hitting / Total Control Pitching

**wudl83** · 04-11-2012, 12:25 PM

Re: mkharsh33 MLB 2K12 Sliders: Classic Hitting / Total Control Pitching

Gnaaaaaaah...10 minutes after I start playing another test game you come around with new sliders...

No problem, I'll test them tomorrow morning!

Played another game, upped the CPU pitch break to 55.

Me was the Giants:
<html><head><meta http-equiv="Content-Type" content="text/html; charset=UTF-8" /></head><body><div style="margin:0 auto; width:595px;"><table bgcolor="#FFFFFF" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1" style="border:1px solid #C2C2C2;" width="100%"><tr bgcolor="#444444"><td align="center" colspan="13" style="padding:5px;">San Diego Padres at San Francisco Giants</td></tr><tr bgcolor="#DDDDDD" style="text-transform:uppercase;"><td width="40%">Apr 11, 2012</td><td align="right" width="5%">1</td><td align="right" width="5%">2</td><td align="right" width="5%">3</td><td align="right" width="5%">4</td><td align="right" width="5%">5</td><td align="right" width="5%">6</td><td align="right" width="5%">7</td><td align="right" width="5%">8</td><td align="right" width="5%">9</td><td align="right" width="5%">R</td><td align="right" width="5%">H</td><td align="right" width="5%">E</td></tr><tr bgcolor="#FFFFFF"><td>San Diego ()</td><td align="right">0</td><td align="right">0</td><td align="right">0</td><td align="right">0</td><td align="right">1</td><td align="right">0</td><td align="right">0</td><td align="right">0</td><td align="right">0</td><td align="right" bgcolor="#DDDDDD">1</td><td align="right">6</td><td align="right">0</td></tr><tr bgcolor="#FFFFFF"><td>San Francisco ()</td><td align="right">1</td><td align="right">0</td><td align="right">0</td><td align="right">1</td><td align="right">0</td><td align="right">2</td><td align="right">0</td><td align="right">0</td><td align="right">x</td><td align="right" bgcolor="#DDDDDD">4</td><td align="right">6</td><td align="right">0</td></tr><tr bgcolor="#F1F1F1"><td align="center" colspan="13">W: M. Cain L: A. Bass S: B. Wilson</td></tr></table><div style="float:left; margin-top:3px; width:296px;"><table bgcolor="#FFFFFF" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1" style="border:1px solid #C2C2C2;" width="100%"><tr bgcolor="#13214E"><td colspan="8" style="padding:5px;">San Diego Padres</td></tr><tr bgcolor="#DDDDDD" style="text-transform:uppercase;"><td width="41%">HITTERS</td><td align="right" width="8%">AB</td><td align="right" width="7%">R</td><td align="right" width="7%">H</td><td align="right" width="7%">BI</td><td align="right" width="9%">BB</td><td align="right" width="9%">SO</td><td align="right" width="12%">AVG</td></tr><tr bgcolor="#FFFFFF"><td>C. Maybin</td><td align="right">4</td><td align="right">0</td><td align="right">3</td><td align="right">1</td><td align="right">0</td><td align="right">0</td><td align="right" bgcolor="#DDDDDD"></td></tr><tr bgcolor="#F1F1F1"><td>O. Hudson</td><td align="right">4</td><td align="right">0</td><td align="right">0</td><td align="right">0</td><td align="right">0</td><td align="right">1</td><td align="right" bgcolor="#DDDDDD"></td></tr><tr bgcolor="#FFFFFF"><td>C. Headley</td><td align="right">4</td><td align="right">0</td><td align="right">0</td><td align="right">0</td><td align="right">0</td><td align="right">2</td><td align="right" bgcolor="#DDDDDD"></td></tr><tr bgcolor="#F1F1F1"><td>J. Guzman</td><td align="right">4</td><td align="right">0</td><td align="right">0</td><td align="right">0</td><td align="right">0</td><td align="right">1</td><td align="right" bgcolor="#DDDDDD"></td></tr><tr bgcolor="#FFFFFF"><td>Y. Alonso</td><td align="right">4</td><td align="right">0</td><td align="right">2</td><td align="right">0</td><td align="right">0</td><td align="right">0</td><td align="right" bgcolor="#DDDDDD"></td></tr><tr bgcolor="#F1F1F1"><td>N. Hundley</td><td align="right">4</td><td align="right">0</td><td align="right">0</td><td align="right">0</td><td align="right">0</td><td align="right">2</td><td align="right" bgcolor="#DDDDDD"></td></tr><tr bgcolor="#FFFFFF"><td>W. Venable</td><td align="right">3</td><td align="right">0</td><td align="right">0</td><td align="right">0</td><td align="right">0</td><td align="right">1</td><td align="right" bgcolor="#DDDDDD"></td></tr><tr bgcolor="#F1F1F1"><td>J. Bartlett</td><td align="right">3</td><td align="right">1</td><td align="right">1</td><td align="right">0</td><td align="right">0</td><td align="right">0</td><td align="right" bgcolor="#DDDDDD"></td></tr><tr bgcolor="#FFFFFF"><td>A. Bass</td><td align="right">3</td><td align="right">0</td><td align="right">0</td><td align="right">0</td><td align="right">0</td><td align="right">2</td><td align="right" bgcolor="#DDDDDD"></td></tr><tr bgcolor="#DDDDDD" style="text-transform:uppercase;"><td>TOTALS</td><td align="right">33</td><td align="right">1</td><td align="right">6</td><td align="right">1</td><td align="right">0</td><td align="right">9</td><td align="right"></td></tr><tr bgcolor="#F1F1F1"><td colspan="8">BATTING 2B: Y. Alonso 2 3B: J. Bartlett</td></tr><tr bgcolor="#F1F1F1"><td colspan="8">BASERUNNING SB: C. Maybin 3</td></tr></table><table bgcolor="#FFFFFF" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1" style="border:1px solid #C2C2C2; margin-top:3px;" width="100%"><tr bgcolor="#13214E"><td colspan="8" style="padding:5px;">San Diego Padres</td></tr><tr bgcolor="#DDDDDD" style="text-transform:uppercase;"><td width="41%">PITCHERS</td><td align="right" width="8%">IP</td><td align="right" width="7%">H</td><td align="right" width="7%">R</td><td align="right" width="7%">ER</td><td align="right" width="9%">BB</td><td align="right" width="9%">SO</td><td align="right" width="12%">ERA</td></tr><tr bgcolor="#FFFFFF"><td>A. Bass</td><td align="right">7.1</td><td align="right">6</td><td align="right">4</td><td align="right">4</td><td align="right">0</td><td align="right">4</td><td align="right" bgcolor="#DDDDDD"></td></tr><tr bgcolor="#F1F1F1"><td>E. Frieri</td><td align="right">0.2</td><td align="right">0</td><td align="right">0</td><td align="right">0</td><td align="right">0</td><td align="right">0</td><td align="right" bgcolor="#DDDDDD"></td></tr><tr bgcolor="#F1F1F1"><td colspan="8">PITCHING Pitches-Strikes: A. Bass 77-55, E. Frieri 5-4</td></tr></table></div><div style="float:right; margin-top:3px; width:296px;"><table bgcolor="#FFFFFF" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1" style="border:1px solid #C2C2C2;" width="100%"><tr bgcolor="#F37736"><td colspan="8" style="padding:5px;">San Francisco Giants</td></tr><tr bgcolor="#DDDDDD" style="text-transform:uppercase;"><td width="41%">HITTERS</td><td align="right" width="8%">AB</td><td align="right" width="7%">R</td><td align="right" width="7%">H</td><td align="right" width="7%">BI</td><td align="right" width="9%">BB</td><td align="right" width="9%">SO</td><td align="right" width="12%">AVG</td></tr><tr bgcolor="#FFFFFF"><td>A. Pagan</td><td align="right">4</td><td align="right">1</td><td align="right">1</td><td align="right">0</td><td align="right">0</td><td align="right">1</td><td align="right" bgcolor="#DDDDDD"></td></tr><tr bgcolor="#F1F1F1"><td>M. Cabrera</td><td align="right">4</td><td align="right">0</td><td align="right">0</td><td align="right">0</td><td align="right">0</td><td align="right">0</td><td align="right" bgcolor="#DDDDDD"></td></tr><tr bgcolor="#FFFFFF"><td>P. Sandoval</td><td align="right">4</td><td align="right">1</td><td align="right">1</td><td align="right">0</td><td align="right">0</td><td align="right">0</td><td align="right" bgcolor="#DDDDDD"></td></tr><tr bgcolor="#F1F1F1"><td>B. Posey</td><td align="right">3</td><td align="right">2</td><td align="right">3</td><td align="right">4</td><td align="right">0</td><td align="right">0</td><td align="right" bgcolor="#DDDDDD"></td></tr><tr bgcolor="#FFFFFF"><td>A. Huff</td><td align="right">3</td><td align="right">0</td><td align="right">0</td><td align="right">0</td><td align="right">0</td><td align="right">0</td><td align="right" bgcolor="#DDDDDD"></td></tr><tr bgcolor="#F1F1F1"><td>B. Belt</td><td align="right">3</td><td align="right">0</td><td align="right">0</td><td align="right">0</td><td align="right">0</td><td align="right">2</td><td align="right" bgcolor="#DDDDDD"></td></tr><tr bgcolor="#FFFFFF"><td>B. Crawford</td><td align="right">3</td><td align="right">0</td><td align="right">0</td><td align="right">0</td><td align="right">0</td><td align="right">1</td><td align="right" bgcolor="#DDDDDD"></td></tr><tr bgcolor="#F1F1F1"><td>R. Theriot</td><td align="right">3</td><td align="right">0</td><td align="right">1</td><td align="right">0</td><td align="right">0</td><td align="right">0</td><td align="right" bgcolor="#DDDDDD"></td></tr><tr bgcolor="#FFFFFF"><td>M. Cain</td><td align="right">2</td><td align="right">0</td><td align="right">0</td><td align="right">0</td><td align="right">0</td><td align="right">0</td><td align="right" bgcolor="#DDDDDD"></td></tr><tr bgcolor="#F1F1F1"><td style="text-indent:10px;">G. Blanco</td><td align="right">1</td><td align="right">0</td><td align="right">0</td><td align="right">0</td><td align="right">0</td><td align="right">0</td><td align="right" bgcolor="#DDDDDD"></td></tr><tr bgcolor="#DDDDDD" style="text-transform:uppercase;"><td>TOTALS</td><td align="right">30</td><td align="right">4</td><td align="right">6</td><td align="right">4</td><td align="right">0</td><td align="right">4</td><td align="right"></td></tr><tr bgcolor="#F1F1F1"><td colspan="8">BATTING HR: B. Posey 2 RBI: B. Posey 4</td></tr></table><table bgcolor="#FFFFFF" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1" style="border:1px solid #C2C2C2; margin-top:3px;" width="100%"><tr bgcolor="#F37736"><td colspan="8" style="padding:5px;">San Francisco Giants</td></tr><tr bgcolor="#DDDDDD" style="text-transform:uppercase;"><td width="41%">PITCHERS</td><td align="right" width="8%">IP</td><td align="right" width="7%">H</td><td align="right" width="7%">R</td><td align="right" width="7%">ER</td><td align="right" width="9%">BB</td><td align="right" width="9%">SO</td><td align="right" width="12%">ERA</td></tr><tr bgcolor="#FFFFFF"><td>M. Cain (W)</td><td align="right">7.0</td><td align="right">5</td><td align="right">1</td><td align="right">1</td><td align="right">0</td><td align="right">6</td><td align="right" bgcolor="#DDDDDD"></td></tr><tr bgcolor="#F1F1F1"><td>S. Casilla (H)</td><td align="right">0.1</td><td align="right">0</td><td align="right">0</td><td align="right">0</td><td align="right">0</td><td align="right">0</td><td align="right" bgcolor="#DDDDDD"></td></tr><tr bgcolor="#FFFFFF"><td>S. Romo (H)</td><td align="right">1.0</td><td align="right">1</td><td align="right">0</td><td align="right">0</td><td align="right">0</td><td align="right">2</td><td align="right" bgcolor="#DDDDDD"></td></tr><tr bgcolor="#F1F1F1"><td>B. Wilson (S)</td><td align="right">0.2</td><td align="right">0</td><td align="right">0</td><td align="right">0</td><td align="right">0</td><td align="right">1</td><td align="right" bgcolor="#DDDDDD"></td></tr><tr bgcolor="#DDDDDD" style="text-transform:uppercase;"><td>TOTALS</td><td align="right">9</td><td align="right">6</td><td align="right">1</td><td align="right">1</td><td align="right">0</td><td align="right">9</td><td align="right"></td></tr><tr bgcolor="#F1F1F1"><td colspan="8">PITCHING Pitches-Strikes: M. Cain 80-60, S. Casilla 2-1, S. Romo 13-9, B. Wilson 7-4</td></tr></table></div> </div></body></html>
Power numbers seem okay.
I had problems hitting the ball good. Also I wasn't able to make enough fouls. I think this hast to do with the higher pitch break, since also the CPU pitch count is low which also has to do with the low foul number.

And what I realize is that I am quite unable to draw walks, which is my fault since I am getting worse the last days regarding plate discipline. I am playing too much on my last days of vacation.

Also the CPU doesn't get walks. They swing at everything. There are many really bad pitches they swung at.

EDIT:
The 3 steals of Maybin came at steal bases slider set to 30 for the AI.

**aykyle** · 04-11-2012, 12:40 PM

Re: mkharsh33 MLB 2K12 Sliders: Classic Hitting / Total Control Pitching

Haven't seen any hit "n" runs yet. played over 20 games. And I have it set at 90 lol.

**mkharsh33** · 04-11-2012, 01:00 PM

Re: mkharsh33 MLB 2K12 Sliders: Classic Hitting / Total Control Pitching

You know what... If we took the collective posts of what guys have shared, we're probably fine. Some guys have a game where they get hits...some don't.

It's like we're reacting to EVERY game we play, and looking for some "cookie-cutter" slider set where all the games play alike. Play one game where the pitcher dominates, and suddenly it seems like we need to lower pitching. Play one game where the offense dominates, and we need to lower that.

I played today's brewers (me) at cubs (cpu) game. I lost 9-2, but was experimenting with the user pitching. I got 2 solo HR's by Gonzalez, and 9 user hits total. I had runners on 2nd and 3rd in the first inning and failed to get them in, which could have changed the game early on. I struck the cpu out 6 times and I struck out 6 times.

At some point we'll just have to settle in...

**mkharsh33** · 04-11-2012, 01:02 PM

Re: mkharsh33 MLB 2K12 Sliders: Classic Hitting / Total Control Pitching

updated post 435 - put cpu hit and run tendency back to 85.

**mkharsh33** · 04-11-2012, 01:06 PM

Re: mkharsh33 MLB 2K12 Sliders: Classic Hitting / Total Control Pitching

Originally posted by wudl83

Also the CPU doesn't get walks. They swing at everything. There are many really bad pitches they swung at.

Not sure if this can be fixed... Maybe tone down cpu power to 85? I don't know if the cpu power number not only determines HR and gap hits, but possibly power "mentality" at the plate?? Harder swings by the cpu which result in swinging at bad pitches?? I don't know...just tossing it out.

**Blazzen** · 04-11-2012, 01:08 PM

Re: mkharsh33 MLB 2K12 Sliders: Classic Hitting / Total Control Pitching

Originally posted by mkharsh33

You know what... If we took the collective posts of what guys have shared, we're probably fine. Some guys have a game where they get hits...some don't.

It's like we're reacting to EVERY game we play, and looking for some "cookie-cutter" slider set where all the games play alike. Play one game where the pitcher dominates, and suddenly it seems like we need to lower pitching. Play one game where the offense dominates, and we need to lower that.

I played today's brewers (me) at cubs (cpu) game. I lost 9-2, but was experimenting with the user pitching. I got 2 solo HR's by Gonzalez, and 9 user hits total. I had runners on 2nd and 3rd in the first inning and failed to get them in, which could have changed the game early on. I struck the cpu out 6 times and I struck out 6 times.

At some point we'll just have to settle in...

This is exactly right. When I was making sliders I tried to only make adjustments every 10 games played. I just don't have time to get in that many games anymore.

Baseball is such a strange game it is hard to replicate. No two seasons are statistically the same, so why should we expect the game to be? "Sim" baseball should fall into a certain range, it's not an exact science.

**sigurd** · 04-11-2012, 02:21 PM

Re: mkharsh33 MLB 2K12 Sliders: Classic Hitting / Total Control Pitching

Ok after my statment of the sliders seeming fine 4 edits ago I have tried the cpu pitch speed at 70 and I agree this is much better.

I am curious about this user pitch speed of 60 though. What exactly do you see that is improved when you did this? I have not tried it just wondering what you saw.

**DonkeyJote** · 04-11-2012, 02:23 PM

Re: mkharsh33 MLB 2K12 Sliders: Classic Hitting / Total Control Pitching

I get the cpu to walk. I think I walked 3 batters in my last game.

I had a fun game, Red Sox vs. Blue Jays (me). I lost 10-7. I hit 3 hr (2 by Lind, 1 by Encarnacion). Struck out 5 times.

These sliders aren't perfect (none ever will be), but I think the game plays a lot better with these than last year's game played with your final sliders. Just sayin', I'm having a ton of fun. I can't wait for a full roster to be released on PC here in the next couple days so I can start up my franchise. Great work.

**DanDaBreadman** · 04-11-2012, 03:58 PM

Re: mkharsh33 MLB 2K12 Sliders: Classic Hitting / Total Control Pitching

Pitch speed at 60 seems to have killed my offense. I will give it a few more games.

**BrianU** · 04-11-2012, 04:02 PM

Re: mkharsh33 MLB 2K12 Sliders: Classic Hitting / Total Control Pitching

The first page says Pitch speed 60 for User pitching only, Pitch speed 70 for CPU

**mkharsh33** · 04-11-2012, 04:45 PM

Re: mkharsh33 MLB 2K12 Sliders: Classic Hitting / Total Control Pitching

Yeah, make sure you carefully input the sliders. Only the user has pitch speed of 60 (what you pitch to the cpu). The cpu has pitch speed of 70 (what the cpu will pitch to you). If you're not a fan of separate slider values that lack uniform numbers, you might want to look at these with only one eye open.

**Mickeyknoxx** · 04-11-2012, 05:37 PM

Re: mkharsh33 MLB 2K12 Sliders: Classic Hitting / Total Control Pitching

MK.. I think we are getting close to one good set of sliders... i set some things a little different.. but they are very close... i'm batting 35/55... i got baserunning for hum at 45.. i picth with control at 25...One thing that i have to learn still is what kind of pitch and the location that i must chase depending on who's at the plate... another thing when u get one man on base.. the first pitch they thorw to try the double play.. sometimes u get a hit, i'm learning to get more patient...

**aykyle** · 04-11-2012, 05:48 PM

Re: mkharsh33 MLB 2K12 Sliders: Classic Hitting / Total Control Pitching

I'm doing good with my sliders. Averaging about 7 hits again. But every now and then I will blow out the other team. Like recently, I played the Pirates with the Phillies: I had 11 hits and scored 7 runs. Pirates had 1 hit and scored 0 runs. Cole Hamels was pitching. Had 3 Doubles, 1 Triple and 1 Hr. Had 12 Strikeouts. While my last game vs the Padres playing with the Phillies: I had 6 hits and 1 Run and the Padres had 5 hits and 2 Runs(they had a walk off sacrifice fly in the 9th). Joe Blanton was pitching for me. Had 1 Double no Hrs or Triples. They had 1 Double and 1 Hr. I had 7 strikeouts and they had 6.
So my games are fairly accurate next to real life games the Phillies play. So I am pretty happy with my slider set that I have made. Some people might think "Oh you lost to the padres... your sliders suck". But I had a 4 game series with the Padres and I am winning that series 3-1. Playing the 4th game soon(Halladay pitching. Easy game.).

**jt45** · 04-11-2012, 06:13 PM

Re: mkharsh33 MLB 2K12 Sliders: Classic Hitting / Total Control Pitching

Has anyone uploaded the most recent version to 2kshare?

**Mickeyknoxx** · 04-11-2012, 11:27 PM

Re: mkharsh33 MLB 2K12 Sliders: Classic Hitting / Total Control Pitching

Another thing i noticed... I really think that the sliders play diiferent in today game and in a franchise game...I'm gonna play a few games in the franchise and tell how is going, but in my first in the franchise i was beaten up ugly by the rays...the starter was sabbathia that played 5.2 with 111 pitchs he got 8 hits 4k's and 1 BB they've got 18 hits 3 homers.. And i played with cpu 65/85. I know it's only one game...

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