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  • ehh
    Hall Of Fame
    • Mar 2003
    • 28962

    #46
    Re: Boston Redsox and Keith Foulke

    Originally posted by camulos
    Before this season Foulke had 6 consecutive seasons of over 60 appearances and under 3.00 ERA. The next closest is 4 seasons. That's overrated? He's no Rivera, but he has been one of the most consistent and effective closers in baseball for the last 6 years.
    Well, maybe it was that I thought he choked in big games then. The pressure always seemed to get to him. That's why I was actually happy when the Sox acquired him last year because I thought it was an automatic trip to the WS for the Yanks.
    "You make your name in the regular season, and your fame in the postseason." - Clyde Frazier

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    • CoRruPt-
      MVP
      • Jun 2005
      • 1279

      #47
      Re: Boston Redsox and Keith Foulke

      Originally posted by ehh
      And on a side note, I love how everyone was saying how ever closer is awful this year and how Mo has lost it blah blah blah, yet he has quietly but together as good a half a season as he ever has.

      29.2 innings this year
      16 hits, 3 earned runs
      32 K's, granted a high walk total of 11.
      0.91 ERA.

      If it wasn't for that HR Varitek hit in the season opener he would have insane stats.
      He's overlooked because of the Yankees' disappointing first half performance.

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      • Thrasha
        MVP
        • Nov 2004
        • 3374

        #48
        Re: Boston Redsox and Keith Foulke

        Originally posted by camulos
        After listening to Foulke on the Dale and Holley show today, I'm convinced there's something going on behind the scenes. It really sounds like Foulke is having some sort of personal or health issue that is affecting his performance. Holley said he expects something to come out in the next week or so.

        I heard a few comments made about his discussion on a radio show in some thread on SoSH, what exactly was said?
        “Nobody in the history of the game tried what I just tried. We’re talking about on the biggest stage, in New York, playing out of position and asked to hit fourth for the New York Yankees. I mean, that’s never been done.” - Sheffield on Sheffield

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        • Stu
          All Star
          • Jun 2004
          • 7924

          #49
          Re: Boston Redsox and Keith Foulke

          Originally posted by Thrasha
          I heard a few comments made about his discussion on a radio show in some thread on SoSH, what exactly was said?
          He said, again, that he didnt want to comment on his health. It seems like if he was 100% that he'd just say, "I'm 100% healthy."

          He also said something along the lines of, "The fans don't consider whats happening in players personal lives." It sounded like he was going to elaborate further but stopped.

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          • Thrasha
            MVP
            • Nov 2004
            • 3374

            #50
            Re: Boston Redsox and Keith Foulke

            Originally posted by camulos
            He said, again, that he didnt want to comment on his health. It seems like if he was 100% that he'd just say, "I'm 100% healthy."

            He also said something along the lines of, "The fans don't consider whats happening in players personal lives." It sounded like he was going to elaborate further but stopped.

            LINK to the Interview if you want to listen.
            TY very much Cam

            Why is Foulke getting the Burger King nickname now? I don't know if it's something I'm missing cause I am out of the loop in Boston or just something I failed to read.


            EDIT: Well now I understand where the Burger King comment comes from
            Last edited by Thrasha; 07-01-2005, 02:17 PM.
            “Nobody in the history of the game tried what I just tried. We’re talking about on the biggest stage, in New York, playing out of position and asked to hit fourth for the New York Yankees. I mean, that’s never been done.” - Sheffield on Sheffield

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            • Stu
              All Star
              • Jun 2004
              • 7924

              #51
              Re: Boston Redsox and Keith Foulke

              Originally posted by Thrasha
              TY very much Cam

              Why is Foulke getting the Burger King nickname now? I don't know if it's something I'm missing cause I am out of the loop in Boston or just something I failed to read.
              He made a comment the other night about how he doesn't care if Johnny from Burger King boos him.

              It was a bad joke that got blown out of proportion by the Boston media because they're pissed at Foulke for not talking to them recently. Typical Boston media BS.
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              • Thrasha
                MVP
                • Nov 2004
                • 3374

                #52
                Re: Boston Redsox and Keith Foulke

                Originally posted by camulos
                He made a comment the other night about how he doesn't care if Johnny from Burger King boos him.

                It was a bad joke that got blown out of proportion by the Boston media because they're pissed at Foulke for not talking to them recently. Typical Boston media BS.

                Yeah, I heard him explain the joke, didn't seem that bad.

                Is Keith always this...testy in interviews? or is that just his personality with the media?

                I've never heard Keith give an interview so I don't know if that's just his personality or if he's been in a bad mood now.
                “Nobody in the history of the game tried what I just tried. We’re talking about on the biggest stage, in New York, playing out of position and asked to hit fourth for the New York Yankees. I mean, that’s never been done.” - Sheffield on Sheffield

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                • Stu
                  All Star
                  • Jun 2004
                  • 7924

                  #53
                  Re: Boston Redsox and Keith Foulke

                  Originally posted by Thrasha
                  Yeah, I heard him explain the joke, didn't seem that bad.

                  Is Keith always this...testy in interviews? or is that just his personality with the media?

                  I've never heard Keith give an interview so I don't know if that's just his personality or if he's been in a bad mood now.
                  He doesn't give cliche answers like most athletes do and usually gives very direct answers. I think he's just altogether pissed off right now, which is understandable considering his struggles.
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                  • GBrushTWood
                    Banned
                    • Mar 2003
                    • 1624

                    #54
                    Re: Boston Redsox and Keith Foulke

                    Originally posted by camulos
                    After listening to Foulke on the Dale and Holley show today, I'm convinced there's something going on behind the scenes. It really sounds like Foulke is having some sort of personal or health issue that is affecting his performance. Holley said he expects something to come out in the next week or so.
                    The rumor has been that he is going through a divorce. I know for sure that my friends have seen Foulke partying in bars this season with tons of broads, when I believe he was married before this season. Could all just be hearsay, but I'm surprised it hasn't received more coverage.

                    I'm actually glad it hasn't, because I think family issues are one place that the bloodhound media thankfully doesn't interfere with (in potentially damaging situations of course). I can just picture this story getting more attention by Foulke's ex-wife making the talk radio show rounds followed by her tell all sit down interview with Stu Scott on Sportscenter. Makes me nauseous to think about it.

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                    • Stu
                      All Star
                      • Jun 2004
                      • 7924

                      #55
                      Re: Boston Redsox and Keith Foulke

                      Originally posted by GBrushTWood
                      The rumor has been that he is going through a divorce. I know for sure that my friends have seen Foulke partying in bars this season with tons of broads, when I believe he was married before this season. Could all just be hearsay, but I'm surprised it hasn't received more coverage.
                      I heard that rumor too. He should just pull a Damon, recruit a trophy wife and all will be well.
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                      • Thrasha
                        MVP
                        • Nov 2004
                        • 3374

                        #56
                        Re: Boston Redsox and Keith Foulke

                        well that wasn't nice

                        It seems like a stint on the DL and a trip back to Alabama would do Keith some good.

                        After that, maybe a few appearences in Pawtucket to get some of his confidence back.

                        In the meantime I'm not sure what will happen, I'll take a look at our schedule, but we could maybe work on a 4 man rotation an put Arroyo in the pen.

                        I don't know if Timlin would be moved to closer or keep him where he's been pretty effective at and make Bronson the interim closer.

                        Either way something needs to be done. We can't keep blowing these games if we want to win the division or even make the playoffs.

                        It seems as though alot of people on SoSH are full on panic mode, I'm not their yet. Trading Keith will bring us nothing at this point in time, and I don't believe he's done by any means.

                        Nor would I say rape the farm for a temporary solution, unless we can get (a) Guardado for cheap.
                        “Nobody in the history of the game tried what I just tried. We’re talking about on the biggest stage, in New York, playing out of position and asked to hit fourth for the New York Yankees. I mean, that’s never been done.” - Sheffield on Sheffield

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                        • APD0290
                          Pro
                          • Dec 2003
                          • 651

                          #57
                          Re: Boston Redsox and Keith Foulke

                          I agree with everything that you said. Put him on the 15 day DL so he can go to Alabama, and whatever is bothering him physically can hopefully treated. After the 15 days send him to Pawtucket for roughly a week and hopefully he can string together some 1-2-3 innings so he can get better mentally.
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                          • Thrasha
                            MVP
                            • Nov 2004
                            • 3374

                            #58
                            Re: Boston Redsox and Keith Foulke

                            This is how things would shake out if we moved Foulke to the DL, and Arroyo to the pen effective immediately:

                            7/5: Wake pitches
                            7/6: Clement pitches (4 days rest, as everyone else would be on seeing as we have no off days until the All Star break)
                            7/7: Wells
                            7/8: Miller
                            7/9: Wake
                            7/10: Schilling/Clement, Curt's last rehab start might have to be for the Red Sox seeing as though we are in a tight spot and don't have a whole lot to lose (worst case: Curt pushes it and re-injures himself being brought along too quickly. Although I doubt that would actually happen.)
                            “Nobody in the history of the game tried what I just tried. We’re talking about on the biggest stage, in New York, playing out of position and asked to hit fourth for the New York Yankees. I mean, that’s never been done.” - Sheffield on Sheffield

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                            • Chappy
                              Pro
                              • Nov 2002
                              • 925

                              #59
                              Re: Boston Redsox and Keith Foulke

                              So I think we should get this post going again, considering what happened last night with Foulke against Texas..

                              Boston will try to get a deal done before the trade deadline. You can be sure of that!

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                              • Stu
                                All Star
                                • Jun 2004
                                • 7924

                                #60
                                Re: Boston Redsox and Keith Foulke

                                At this point the Red Sox are correct in taking a wait and see approach with Foulke. There's nothing they can do. They're not going to put him on the DL unless he's legitimately hurt. The trade market isn't active enough for them to make a good deal without overpaying. You can't move Timlin into the closer role because then you don't have a setup man. You can't call up somebody from the minors to close because that's just not realistic.

                                Foulke needs to straighten himself out. If he doesn't in the next 2 weeks the Red Sox are guaranteed to make a trade. While it's annoying to be losing games like this, we are still in pretty good shape.
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