Rob Dibble on Jeter snub

[ILLCHILL]

Re: Rob Dibble on Jeter snub

For a team in such disarray, its pretty damn good they're only 3.5 out of first?

A team with THAT much money and talent, they should be 3.5 up. They could have a team full of T.O personalities and still win with that talent.

[Armitage]

Re: Rob Dibble on Jeter snub

For a team in such disarray, its pretty damn good they're only 3.5 out of first?

Nobody else in the AL East seems to have gotten their bearings either. The Orioles haven't just fallen to earth, they made a huge freakin' crater. I mean, nobody expected them to be atop the AL East all season but they're still a better team(or so i thought) than to have really fallen back to the pack hard.

The Yankees have gotten away with inconsistent play in the AL East because everyone else there seems to have done the same thing for one reason or another. I don't think they get away with their play in the NL East, but that's just me

[Porschebenz2001]

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He is the soul of a team with no chemistry and in disarray? Doesn't sound like a great locker rrom presence to me.

Yeah he didn't help them at all with those 4 World Series rings.

[Porschebenz2001]

Re: Rob Dibble on Jeter snub

A team with THAT much money and talent, they should be 3.5 up. They could have a team full of T.O personalities and still win with that talent.

If they didn't have Derek Jeter they would be much farther out than 3.5 games.

[SportsTop]

Re: Rob Dibble on Jeter snub

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and Jeter is the Jordan of baseball.
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What the **** are you smoking!?

I think you aren't understanding what Dibble meant by this comment.

What he is saying is that Jeter transcends the sport of baseball as Jordan did with basketball and the purpose behind the All-Star game is to showcase its star players.

Say what you will about Jeter, but none of us know how he would or wouldn't be on another team. The fact is, is that a lot of very good players have seen their careers hit a roadblock when they put on a Yankees uniform. Yet Jeter has not only thrived in this arena, but he's become the captain and leader of the most publicized, scrutinized, and media covered franchise of any sport in the western hemisphere.

Last I checked, there have been many, many players in the NBA All-Star game (as well as the MLB All-Star game) that were added to the roster during off years or after their respective primes were over.

I agree with Dibble. I won't lose any sleep that Jeter isn't in the game, but I'd much rather see him there than Michael Young and most definitely over Podsednik.<!-- / message -->

[dce1228]

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I love to hate the yankees, but Jeter should be there. He should go instead of Sheffield. Sheff is a mercenary-- I don't care if he hits a home-run every time he's up, he's still a mercenary and I've seen enough of him to last my whole life... but Jeter ALWAYS does something unique when the money's on the line.

[dkgojackets]

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I agree with Dibble. I won't lose any sleep that Jeter isn't in the game, but I'd much rather see him there than Michael Young and most definitely over Podsednik.

Jeter is supposed to be leading this team, but instead he's been garbage and the team as played like crap as well. The All-Star game is a showcase of the best players, so why should he go over someone with better numbers in every category, or someone like Podsednik that leads probably the best team? Shove the bias up your ***, watch some baseball, and realize who's played better this year for gods sake.

[elicoleman]

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Jeter is supposed to be leading this team, but instead he's been garbage and the team as played like crap as well. The All-Star game is a showcase of the best players, so why should he go over someone with better numbers in every category, or someone like Podsednik that leads probably the best team? Shove the bias up your ***, watch some baseball, and realize who's played better this year for gods sake.

.310, 11 homers, 37 RBI. 68 Runs, 10 Stolen Bases....utter garbage, right?

And the team...yeah, only 3.5 out of first.

[NYJets]

Re: Rob Dibble on Jeter snub

Jeter is supposed to be leading this team, but instead he's been garbage

The All-Star game is a showcase of the best players, so why should he go over someone with better numbers in every category

Actually, Jeter has a better OBP than Young, more runs scored, and more sb's. Going just by stats, you could make a case for either one.

, or someone like Podsednik that leads probably the best team?

Somehow, I'm guessing in past years when Jeter was leading one of the best teams in the league, you weren't trying to get him in for his leadership skills.

Shove the bias up your ***, watch some baseball, and realize who's played better this year for gods sake.

The guy your talking too isn't a Yankees fan.

[ILLCHILL]

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Actually, Jeter has a better OBP than Young, more runs scored, and more sb's. Going just by stats, you could make a case for either one.

Sorry man, but I dont think you can this year.

Like I said earlier in the thread:

Young has more hits, doubles, triples, homers, RBI, total bases, less K's, a higher Batting Avg, and a higher Slug. pct. This isn't a lifetime achievement award here. Young has had the better year.

[Vince]

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This article is a reason why people dislike the Yanks. I could care less about Jeter being in the ASG. I don't hate him or anything, in fact there are a lot of the current Yankees that I like(A-Rod, Matsui, Sheff). But this article just bleeds pure bias and it really gets on my nerve how this guy will go to great lengths to suck Jeter's johnson.

[SportsTop]

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Jeter is supposed to be leading this team, but instead he's been garbage and the team as played like crap as well. The All-Star game is a showcase of the best players, so why should he go over someone with better numbers in every category, or someone like Podsednik that leads probably the best team? Shove the bias up your ***, watch some baseball, and realize who's played better this year for gods sake.

You obviously know very little, if anything, about baseball.

The game of baseball is not always entirely about statistics, although Jeter is still statistically in the top three of all MLB shortstops. (Please check things like this before you post that he has "been garbage") Can you please tell me what you consider every category? Because last I checked, Jeter has a better OBP, more SB, and more runs scored than Young. Add to it that Jeter is a lead-off hitter and I'd say he is playing his role perfectly.

I come here hoping for a legitimate baseball discussion and I get utter garbage instead.

Shouldn't you be the one that should be checking your bias at the door?

[dkgojackets]

Re: Rob Dibble on Jeter snub

You obviously know very little, if anything, about baseball.

The game of baseball is not always entirely about statistics, although Jeter is still statistically in the top three of all MLB shortstops. (Please check things like this before you post that he has "been garbage") Can you please tell me what you consider every category? Because last I checked, Jeter has a better OBP, more SB, and more runs scored than Young. Add to it that Jeter is a lead-off hitter and I'd say he is playing his role perfectly.

I come here hoping for a legitimate baseball discussion and I get utter garbage instead.

Shouldn't you be the one that should be checking your bias at the door?

All-Star voting IS about whos had a better statistical year, except for undeserving guys that get in on name recognition alone, which I'm surprised Jeter didn't get in the first place (Beltran anyone?), and Jeter failed to make it with the fans or players. Its an old argument, but what team would settle for 3.5 out of first with a payroll that leads baseball by $80 million and doubles all but one team? He is hitting below is career average, and wasn't even the best Yankee on the final vote ballot since Matsui (who I voted for there, people who think I just hate NYY) has a higher average, slugging, more HR, and more RBI.

BTW, he has the second most strikeouts of AL shortstops, which obviously doesn't help his cause. While he has more SB (10), he's been caught four times (which happens to tie for the lead of SS) and has a lower stealing percentage than Young. Look at the stats, and I see him solidly behind Young and Tejada in nearly every hitting stat there is, including a lower SB percentage. The only advantage Jeter has is in OBP and walks, which directly correspond, and runs, but the Yankees as a team lead the Rangers and Orioles in total runs scored.

Now tell me why he deserves to go, since the stats dont stack up and he's the leader/captain of an underperforming team.

[BunnyHardaway]

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He's not even the best shortstop in the division. I'm not biased either, but Miguel Tejada is the ONLY reason we haven't completely collapsed yet. He's a top 2, probably the best SS in baseball, and arguably the best player in baseball. I would take him and Michael Young over Jeter this year.

[Armitage]

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I don'tr even think Jeter's the best clutch player on his team right now. Hideki Matusi is definitely the most clutch player now on the Yankees and arguably in the entire major leagues.

Despite Jeter's stats.. I voted Matsui in that 32nd man voting. Just too clutch to ignore.