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  • Jimplication
    MVP
    • Aug 2004
    • 3591

    #1

    Brian Cashman to GM the Phillies in the future?

    I'm reading my copy of Sports Weekly, and just finished "The Buzz" portion, which states:

    Yankees GM Brian Cashman is telling friends he plans to leave after the season and hopes to land a job with another East Coast club.
    Providing the Phillies choke this year and miss the playoffs (which isn't too much of a stretch), there is a good chance Ed Wade will be fired. That would open the door for Brian Cashman, and I wouldn't rule out his being hired as GM of the Phillies.

    Ed Wade is overstaying his welcome in Philly IMO, and I wouldn't consider his job to be "secure" by any means. If the Phillies crumble down the stretch again, I think it's very reasonable to assume he will be fired, and replaced in the off-season.

    If Brian Cashman does leave the Yankees, and desires a East Coast team, why not the Phillies?
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  • Vince
    Bow for Bau
    • Aug 2002
    • 26017

    #2
    Re: Brian Cashman to GM the Phillies in the future?

    Brian Cashman will either be in DC or in Baltimore...
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    • rsox
      All Star
      • Feb 2003
      • 6309

      #3
      Re: Brian Cashman to GM the Phillies in the future?

      Originally posted by Vinceanity2k3
      Brian Cashman will either be in DC or in Baltimore...
      Most likely Baltimore, the two headed monster known as Beattie/Flanagan has done a horrible job and Cashman could definitly turn the Orioles around. It has also been rumored that ownership group looking to buy the Nationals like the job Jim Bowden has done and will likely keep him aound.

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      • AI_Franchise
        Banned
        • Nov 2002
        • 2146

        #4
        Re: Brian Cashman to GM the Phillies in the future?

        All I know is that Brian Cashman is one of the best managers in the league..and you could dissmiss that notion all you want , taking his and the Yankees payroll into consideration, but this man is savvy and he's great under pressure. Hopefully he sticks around, but if not I wish him and the next ballclub that hires him all of the luck. Good character, and even a better mind.

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        • deeman11747
          G-M*nnnn
          • Feb 2003
          • 3194

          #5
          Re: Brian Cashman to GM the Phillies in the future?

          I really like Brian Cashman and I think him and Torre combined are the only 2 people on this planet that could deal with Steinbrenner without going insane. Cashman would repeatedly be called in the middle of the night and during holidays and dinner with his family and be bother by the Boss about a front office move. I really can't think of another GM that would be able to do that unless its a rookie GM. People thought Cashman was good at handling it becaus ehe didn't kknow any other way it could be... with him having grown up around the Yankee front office.


          With that being said... he has made a TON of awul pitching decisions in the last 4 years. Theres:

          Signing Contreras
          Not resigning Pettitte
          Trading for Loaiza
          Trading for Javy Vazquez for 2 players who have become good players
          Not resigning Leiber
          Letting El Duque get away TWICE
          Letting David Wells go
          Signing Pavano (well we really havent had enough time to tell)
          Singing Wright (same as Pavano)
          Acquiring the rights to Hideki Irabu
          Acquiring Jeff Weaver (while losing Ted Lilly in the process)
          Acquiring Kevin Brown and his bad back, contract, and attitude
          The Felix Heredia Experiment
          Losing Brandon Claussen (to get Drew Henson for the 46th time)
          The Denny Neagle Experiment
          and more



          And I know thats being critical but a lot of these moves were moves that really affected the ballclub. But like I said... I love Cashman.... he's made a TON of great moves (getting Justice in 200 and A-Rod in 2004) but he's made a lot of pitching mistakes.


          Anyways the report earlier this year was that if he doesnt resign with the Yanks (I'd say a 75% chance he doesnt) then he'd love to go to the Red Sox. Unfortunately he said this before they won the WS because he said it'd be great to be the GM to bring them their first ring in a long time but I dont know how his feelings have changed.


          But whatever team gets him will be getting a classy guy who knows his way around baseball and any owner he has to deal with will be absolute gravy compared to Steinbrenner.

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          • SPTO
            binging
            • Feb 2003
            • 68046

            #6
            Re: Brian Cashman to GM the Phillies in the future?

            Cashman will prolly go to Baltimore. Angelos may be dumb but he isn't as much of a micromanager as Steinbrenner can be. I think that Cashman would do a credible job in Baltimore but for my sake I hope he goes to DC or Philly.
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            • rsox
              All Star
              • Feb 2003
              • 6309

              #7
              Re: Brian Cashman to GM the Phillies in the future?

              Originally posted by deeman11747
              I really like Brian Cashman and I think him and Torre combined are the only 2 people on this planet that could deal with Steinbrenner without going insane. Cashman would repeatedly be called in the middle of the night and during holidays and dinner with his family and be bother by the Boss about a front office move. I really can't think of another GM that would be able to do that unless its a rookie GM. People thought Cashman was good at handling it becaus ehe didn't kknow any other way it could be... with him having grown up around the Yankee front office.


              With that being said... he has made a TON of awul pitching decisions in the last 4 years. Theres:

              Signing Contreras
              Not resigning Pettitte
              Trading for Loaiza
              Trading for Javy Vazquez for 2 players who have become good players
              Not resigning Leiber
              Letting El Duque get away TWICE
              Letting David Wells go
              Signing Pavano (well we really havent had enough time to tell)
              Singing Wright (same as Pavano)
              Acquiring the rights to Hideki Irabu
              Acquiring Jeff Weaver (while losing Ted Lilly in the process)
              Acquiring Kevin Brown and his bad back, contract, and attitude
              The Felix Heredia Experiment
              Losing Brandon Claussen (to get Drew Henson for the 46th time)
              The Denny Neagle Experiment
              and more



              And I know thats being critical but a lot of these moves were moves that really affected the ballclub. But like I said... I love Cashman.... he's made a TON of great moves (getting Justice in 200 and A-Rod in 2004) but he's made a lot of pitching mistakes.


              Anyways the report earlier this year was that if he doesnt resign with the Yanks (I'd say a 75% chance he doesnt) then he'd love to go to the Red Sox. Unfortunately he said this before they won the WS because he said it'd be great to be the GM to bring them their first ring in a long time but I dont know how his feelings have changed.


              But whatever team gets him will be getting a classy guy who knows his way around baseball and any owner he has to deal with will be absolute gravy compared to Steinbrenner.

              We don't know how many of those pitching moves were made by Cashman and how many were made by Steinbrenner. It was Steinbrenner not Cashman who brought David Wells back after the White Sox let him go. It was Steinbrenner who kept bringing Darryl Strawberry back and it was Steinbrenner who against Cashman's advice signed Chili Davis. George is known to go over his GM's head to make moves, so when looking at the Yankees over last several seasons you can't give Cashman all the credit and you can't give him all the blame.

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              • deeman11747
                G-M*nnnn
                • Feb 2003
                • 3194

                #8
                Re: Brian Cashman to GM the Phillies in the future?

                Originally posted by rsox
                We don't know how many of those pitching moves were made by Cashman and how many were made by Steinbrenner. It was Steinbrenner not Cashman who brought David Wells back after the White Sox let him go. It was Steinbrenner who kept bringing Darryl Strawberry back and it was Steinbrenner who against Cashman's advice signed Chili Davis. George is known to go over his GM's head to make moves, so when looking at the Yankees over last several seasons you can't give Cashman all the credit and you can't give him all the blame.
                Believe me... I left plenty of things out that the Boss insisted that Cashman did reluctantly. All of the things I listed were Cashman made moves to my knowledge from what I've read.

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                • Thrasha
                  MVP
                  • Nov 2004
                  • 3374

                  #9
                  Re: Brian Cashman to GM the Phillies in the future?

                  Originally posted by AI_Franchise
                  All I know is that Brian Cashman is one of the best managers in the league..and you could dissmiss that notion all you want , taking his and the Yankees payroll into consideration, but this man is savvy and he's great under pressure. Hopefully he sticks around, but if not I wish him and the next ballclub that hires him all of the luck. Good character, and even a better mind.

                  .....That's slightly amazing


                  They have a 200 million dollar payroll and are struggling to keep up with a 50 million dollar team (the A's).

                  Great gm? Hardly IMO
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                  • DGetz
                    Pro
                    • Mar 2004
                    • 636

                    #10
                    Re: Brian Cashman to GM the Phillies in the future?

                    Correct me if I am wrong, but I believe that Cashman tried to re-sign Pettite but Pettite wanted to go to Houston, in which case Cashman wouldn't really be at fault.

                    I agree he would probobly go to Baltimore or D.C.; the Orioles will be looking for a new GM, but Angelos is one of the most difficult owners in the game to deal with, so I dont know Cashman would want to go back in to a situation like that. It's hard to say what will happen in D.C. once they get new owners, but hopefully they get rid of Bowden so we dont have any more Guzman or Castilla type signings.
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                    • NYJets
                      Hall Of Fame
                      • Jul 2002
                      • 18637

                      #11
                      Re: Brian Cashman to GM the Phillies in the future?

                      I'll be interested to see what Cashman does when he has some freedom. If he goes to a team like Baltimore where he has some money to spend, but more say in moves, he'll do a good job imo.
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                      • BunnyHardaway
                        Banned
                        • Nov 2004
                        • 15195

                        #12
                        Re: Brian Cashman to GM the Phillies in the future?

                        Brian Cashman will either be in DC or in Baltimore...

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                        • TheLetterZ
                          All Star
                          • Jul 2002
                          • 6752

                          #13
                          Re: Brian Cashman to GM the Phillies in the future?

                          I heard the Phillies would hire Gerry Hunsicker.

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                          • rsox
                            All Star
                            • Feb 2003
                            • 6309

                            #14
                            Re: Brian Cashman to GM the Phillies in the future?

                            Originally posted by ZXLT
                            I heard the Phillies would hire Gerry Hunsicker.
                            Hunsicker would be a good choice, he has worked well under budget constraints and when he is able to spend he spend wisely (Clemens, Hampton, Pettitte, Beltran as well as keeping Bagwell and Biggio with the Astros for their whole careers).

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                            • DonnieBB23
                              Rookie
                              • Apr 2004
                              • 2

                              #15
                              Re: Brian Cashman to GM the Phillies in the future?

                              What great moves has Cashman made? I wouldn't call wanting MVP A-Rod visionary. Everyone complains about how terrible Steinbrenner is but who allows Cashman to spend $205 million to buy everyone he wants. Steinbrenner said he could sign Beltran if he wanted and Cashman said no. Steinbrenner wanted David Ortiz and Cashman said no. Cashman has admitted Steinbrenner has never put any money restraints on him. Where else will Cashman have that? As far as Pettitte, the deal he was finally offered was a joke. It was less money than the Sox offered and about the same as the Astros offered. He had all year to offer him a contract and Cashman never did.

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