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  • deeman11747
    G-M*nnnn
    • Feb 2003
    • 3194

    #1

    Vazquez wants back East

    http://sports.espn.go.com/mlb/column...son&id=2220374

    I bet the Jays, Orioles and Nationals would be interested in him.... especially the Nationals.

  • Stoud
    MVP
    • Mar 2003
    • 1259

    #2
    Re: Vazquez wants back East

    Vasquez in the East again? Can he handle that? I'd like to see him on the Nats, if possible. Other teams might offer a negative experience.

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    • TheMatrix31
      RF
      • Jul 2002
      • 52926

      #3
      Re: Vazquez wants back East

      I'd love him on Atlanta. Mazzone will work wonders with him...


      **looks up at what I said, cries**

      But seriously......I'd still love him behind Smoltz and Hudson.

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      • Macar91
        Running of the Bulls
        • Mar 2005
        • 2574

        #4
        Re: Vazquez wants back East

        The Cubs need a reliable starter in the rotation just in case Kerry gets hurt(which he prolly will) I'd be happy to see him in Cubby blue.
        Originally posted by billmatic
        Radman is more like the ******** homeless man's version of Okur.

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        • BunnyHardaway
          Banned
          • Nov 2004
          • 15195

          #5
          Re: Vazquez wants back East

          If the O's can't get one of Burnett/Millwood/Byrd, I'd pursue Vazquez, or maybe use him to start a 3 way deal with the Marlins to get Delgado.

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          • cjonesfan921
            UGH, next year
            • Jan 2005
            • 20081

            #6
            Re: Vazquez wants back East

            He would definatly be welcomed in Atlanta. He is still a good pitcher and had a decent year. I would love to see Schuerolz(sp?) go after him.

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            • Thrasha
              MVP
              • Nov 2004
              • 3374

              #7
              Re: Vazquez wants back East

              Originally posted by Macar91
              The Cubs need a reliable starter in the rotation just in case Kerry gets hurt(which he prolly will) I'd be happy to see him in Cubby blue.

              So when did Chicago move and what was I doing at the time?
              “Nobody in the history of the game tried what I just tried. We’re talking about on the biggest stage, in New York, playing out of position and asked to hit fourth for the New York Yankees. I mean, that’s never been done.” - Sheffield on Sheffield

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              • deeman11747
                G-M*nnnn
                • Feb 2003
                • 3194

                #8
                Re: Vazquez wants back East

                Originally posted by Thrasha
                So when did Chicago move and what was I doing at the time?
                Vazquez says he wants to be anywhere East of the Rocky Mts.

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                • Stoud
                  MVP
                  • Mar 2003
                  • 1259

                  #9
                  Re: Vazquez wants back East

                  Originally posted by cjonesfan921
                  He would definatly be welcomed in Atlanta. He is still a good pitcher and had a decent year. I would love to see Schuerolz(sp?) go after him.
                  A decent year?

                  He had a year that showed signs of him losing his stuff. A strikeout pitcher does not a good pitcher make! He can strike out as many as 10 guys a game, averages something like 7, but when you give up 4 and 5 runs a game, WHO CARES?! He's a step above Ortiz on that DBacks team and a step BELOW Brandon Webb. If he could go somewhere with an extraodrinary pitching coach, he might have a chance to show his brilliance just yet. However, being that the chances of that are slim to none, I've pretty much given up hope with Vasquez.

                  Looking at his game logs for 2005 you'll see one thing: 6's, 7's, 8's, and even 9's sprinkled in the EARNED RUNS ALLOWED category. Followed of course by 5's, 4's, 3's, 2's, and the elusive 1 which happened a mediocre 4 times last year.

                  Don't get me wrong, I used to love this guy. Now? This guy needs some serious help. He couldn't even BEGIN to cut the mustard in the East before, so what makes him think he can now? Wherever he goes he's going to need at least 4 things to be sucessful:

                  1. A Good Pitching Coach

                  2. Decent Run Support

                  3. Team with low popularity

                  4. A lot of very good luck

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                  • bravosfan
                    All Star
                    • Jul 2002
                    • 5184

                    #10
                    Re: Vazquez wants back East

                    Wouldn't be surprised to see him end up in Atlanta, Bobby Cox is probably his biggest fan...

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                    • CoRruPt-
                      MVP
                      • Jun 2005
                      • 1279

                      #11
                      Re: Vazquez wants back East

                      Originally posted by Braves95
                      Wouldn't be surprised to see him end up in Atlanta, Bobby Cox is probably his biggest fan...
                      I hope not... Vasquez is not someone I'd hand the ball to in a playoff situation.

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                      • rsox
                        All Star
                        • Feb 2003
                        • 6309

                        #12
                        Re: Vazquez wants back East

                        I would not be surprised if Vazquez winds up in Florida, and not necessarily as a Marlin. With a new owner in Tampa Bay the Devil Rays are expeted to increase payroll and could make an offer for Vazquez (though i wouldn't rule out the Marlins).

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                        • Stoud
                          MVP
                          • Mar 2003
                          • 1259

                          #13
                          Re: Vazquez wants back East

                          Originally posted by rsox
                          I would not be surprised if Vazquez winds up in Florida, and not necessarily as a Marlin. With a new owner in Tampa Bay the Devil Rays are expeted to increase payroll and could make an offer for Vazquez (though i wouldn't rule out the Marlins).
                          The Devil Rays already have a pretty good Starting Rotation. Some of them need work, but others have really come around, particularly their Lefties. If you can produce some good lefties like they have, you're in business. That's why they were doing so well in the second half last season. with Vasquez as a #4 or 5, they might be able to produce a winning season next year. However, if they tried to use him as a #1 or 2, especially in that division, he might not succeed as much as they need him to. Another thing to remember is that the Devil Rays need some good reliable help at the corners. Though it probably won't happen, getting a guy like Mueller or Randa to patrol 3rd and maybe a solid IF or a first basemen like Mientkiewicz or Olerud could really turn that team around entirely, especially if they got a guy like Vasquez at the end of their rotation.

                          I know I'm critical of the guy, but that doesn't mean I don't like him. I'm just afraid of what might happen to him if he moves back east. However, now that I've thought it through, having a guy like Vasquez at the BACK of a rotation would solve alot of his problems, and alot of teams in the east could and would use him in that position.

                          The D-Rays definitely have a bright future ahead of them with one of the best defensive outfields for like three years now, and their young pitchers finally coming around. Kinda sucks that it took a move to Atlanta for Jorge Sosa to show his true potential. I'm not a D-Rays fan, I'm not a bandwagoner, but I'm sure as hell glad to see at least a small sign of a changing of the guard in the AL East.
                          Last edited by Stoud; 11-12-2005, 01:53 AM.

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                          • deeman11747
                            G-M*nnnn
                            • Feb 2003
                            • 3194

                            #14
                            Re: Vazquez wants back East

                            Originally posted by Stoud
                            That's why they were doing so well in the second half last season. with Vasquez as a #4 or 5, they might be able to produce a winning season next year. However, if they tried to use him as a #1 or 2, especially in that division, he might not succeed as much as they need him to. .


                            That doesnt make any sense.... how would their win/loss record be affected by what position in the rotation he's in? Its not like they'd win 35 less games if Vazquez pitches the second game of the year and then every five days after that rather than had he pitched the fourth game of the year and then every five games after that.

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                            • Vince
                              Bow for Bau
                              • Aug 2002
                              • 26017

                              #15
                              Re: Vazquez wants back East

                              I say Florida as he wants to be closer to PR.
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