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  • BGarrett7
    All Star
    • Jul 2003
    • 5890

    #16
    Re: MLB to celebrate if Bonds passes Aaron

    Originally posted by Thrasha
    As much as people say "it'd be great if baseball took a stance against barry" it really wouldn't.

    I'm sure to a certain degree, they are ashamed/embarassed that this whole thing is happening to one of the greatest records in sports. To not celebrate it though is going to be more eye-popping, media frenzying (i know, it's not a word) than anything they could do. The best way is to just have a little hoorah about it and then hope that ARod breaks the record in a few years.
    I don't think they should sit back and do nothing. That would be a total slap in the face to the game itself. It needs to be acknowledged, yes. But not to the extent of some huge mass-marketing campaign that draws huge mainstream media attention to it -- well, more so than it will already have.

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    • Thrasha
      MVP
      • Nov 2004
      • 3374

      #17
      Re: MLB to celebrate if Bonds passes Aaron

      Originally posted by BGarrett7
      I don't think they should sit back and do nothing. That would be a total slap in the face to the game itself. It needs to be acknowledged, yes. But not to the extent of some huge mass-marketing campaign that draws huge mainstream media attention to it -- well, more so than it will already have.
      Regardless of what baseball does, the mainstream media will be all over it.

      I personally don't think MLB will be making money hand over fist if Bonds breaks the record, just because outside of SF Bonds' status amongst baseball fans is at an all-time low.

      And unless Bonds comes out and admits he's been using, or the MLB front office conducts a independent investigation in to the alligations of steroid use and finds conclusive evidence that he did use, their is nothing they can do.

      Bud Selig won't even admit, or give the OK to start an investigation in to Bonds' past. What do you think he'd do when reporters started slamming him with "Why wasn't their any kind of celebration for the 756th HR?".

      edit: I'm not a Bonds apologist. I hate the guy like I've said many times on here. But this is just a certain situation where you kind of have to lump it.
      “Nobody in the history of the game tried what I just tried. We’re talking about on the biggest stage, in New York, playing out of position and asked to hit fourth for the New York Yankees. I mean, that’s never been done.” - Sheffield on Sheffield

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      • Blzer
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        • Mar 2004
        • 42520

        #18
        Re: MLB to celebrate if Bonds passes Aaron

        Umm, go Barry... w00t.
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        • RoyalBoyle78
          Aka."Footballforever"
          • May 2003
          • 23918

          #19
          Re: MLB to celebrate if Bonds passes Aaron

          Well if he breaks it, I will celebtare by taken a crap in a SF Giants hat, then finding a Giants Fan/Bonds fans head to put it on ............Blzer your lucky you don't live next door to me..LOL
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          • Dice
            Sitting by the door
            • Jul 2002
            • 6627

            #20
            Re: MLB to celebrate if Bonds passes Aaron

            Three things needs to happen to improve baseball's image:

            1) The retirement of BARRY BONDS.
            2) The resignation of BUD SELIG.
            3) The resignation of DONALD FEHR.

            These 3 guys have brought baseball to an all-time low. Baseball used to be the most popular sport 20 years ago. Now it ranks behind football and basketball in popularity. And these 3 guys I feel are responsible for it.
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            • Thrasha
              MVP
              • Nov 2004
              • 3374

              #21
              Re: MLB to celebrate if Bonds passes Aaron

              I dunno about basketball but most certainly football.

              Since Jordan left, the second time, the NBA hasn't been the same.
              “Nobody in the history of the game tried what I just tried. We’re talking about on the biggest stage, in New York, playing out of position and asked to hit fourth for the New York Yankees. I mean, that’s never been done.” - Sheffield on Sheffield

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              • DGetz
                Pro
                • Mar 2004
                • 636

                #22
                Re: MLB to celebrate if Bonds passes Aaron

                Originally posted by Thrasha
                I dunno about basketball but most certainly football.

                Since Jordan left, the second time, the NBA hasn't been the same.

                I agree, I think MLB is more popular than the NBA, which has been struggling with image issues of its own for the past few years.

                As for football, it holds a unique appeal, most notably how fews game there are and I dont think any other sport will pass it.
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                • remix
                  MVP
                  • Aug 2004
                  • 2718

                  #23
                  Re: MLB to celebrate if Bonds passes Aaron

                  Originally posted by Dice
                  Three things needs to happen to improve baseball's image:

                  1) The retirement of BARRY BONDS.
                  2) The resignation of BUD SELIG.
                  3) The resignation of DONALD FEHR.

                  These 3 guys have brought baseball to an all-time low. Baseball used to be the most popular sport 20 years ago. Now it ranks behind football and basketball in popularity. And these 3 guys I feel are responsible for it.
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                  • mizzta21
                    MVP
                    • Oct 2003
                    • 1135

                    #24
                    Re: MLB to celebrate if Bonds passes Aaron

                    you know what, im tired of people bashing barry, i think its too late to do any investigations on barry, and if they did, MLB would have to investigate 80% of the league. he may be a jerkoff, but lets just leave him alone and let him play the game of baseball, like everyother baseball player. wish him well, i dunno how you guys could hate somebody you dont know personally, u should point ur anger towards osama bin laden or something. and yes i am a Giants fan!! so do something!!!
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                    • Patman
                      Rookie
                      • Oct 2002
                      • 374

                      #25
                      Re: MLB to celebrate if Bonds passes Aaron

                      Originally posted by YankeePride_YP
                      That's cause for celebration.
                      bzzt... wrong

                      Whether you think he's a steroid user or not actually has zero bearing on a player surpassing a record.
                      bzzt... wrong

                      MLB is not Congress. Everything up to this point has either been leaked testimony that a writer claims he has or a book written by a couple of writers. Until there is further proof, MLB can not take the position that Barry Bonds was a steroid user. They have no choice but to identify him as a player that has broken the all-time record.
                      bzzt... wrong (I swear, some of you guys still wouldn't be convinced if Barry came out onto the field like lawnmowerman)

                      I mean, really is this a surprise? For people to complain about this is pretty silly. Did you really expect MLB to just say, "Screw you Bonds" in front of millions of people?
                      Why not, they are doing the same to the fans right now.
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                      • Patman
                        Rookie
                        • Oct 2002
                        • 374

                        #26
                        Re: MLB to celebrate if Bonds passes Aaron

                        Originally posted by mizzta21
                        you know what, im tired of people bashing barry, i think its too late to do any investigations on barry, and if they did, MLB would have to investigate 80% of the league. he may be a jerkoff, but lets just leave him alone and let him play the game of baseball, like everyother baseball player. wish him well, i dunno how you guys could hate somebody you dont know personally, u should point ur anger towards osama bin laden or something. and yes i am a Giants fan!! so do something!!!
                        man, that is pretty stupid. Why not investigate 80% of the league... ban the guys for life and lets move away from the steroid era. BTW, its pretty easy to hate people I don't know personally, there are evil people and not enough compassion and moral equivocating in the world will eliminate that. Just because your teachers tell you that you shouldn't dooesn't mean that you shouldn't. But sure, lets look at Osama bin Laden... because it would distract attention from Barry Roidball your hero and victim. What the hell happened in the last 5-7 years where we can no long call a spade a spade because we don't have their "perspective". We need to dig our head in that moralistic sandtrap or we're going to have people who don't care about others running roughshod over others because somebody will whine that "somehow he/she must be justified"... all it will take is a skillful tactician in that game to get his/her way over things. I know a highly intelligent guy in my acad. dept who believes there is in fact no truth since all truth is dependent on perception. Of course this who line of thinking is the ultimate destruction of truth and logic... taking it to the 'logical' conclusions, you might as well turn your brain off and go home because we'll get down to the point of thinking about the emotions of a salad and how it feels. Stop listening to the noise and open year ears... there is objective truth and we don't have to take the line of bullcrap that we don't know what its like to be him or don't know him so we shouldn't judge.

                        Ignorance to the harsh truth of the situation is alarming and the attempts to rationalize the same is frightening. Even if you wish real hard it ain't going away and no amount of perspective is going to change the facts that what this man has done is illegal and amoral. I'm not going to cede my own moralistic judgments to somebody else's moralistic judgments because the whole "prespective" issue comes down to rationalizing a way to not face the consequences of actions against society. Nothing more, nothing less.
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                        • mizzta21
                          MVP
                          • Oct 2003
                          • 1135

                          #27
                          Re: MLB to celebrate if Bonds passes Aaron

                          Originally posted by Patman
                          man, that is pretty stupid. Why not investigate 80% of the league... ban the guys for life and lets move away from the steroid era. BTW, its pretty easy to hate people I don't know personally, there are evil people and not enough compassion and moral equivocating in the world will eliminate that. Just because your teachers tell you that you shouldn't dooesn't mean that you shouldn't. But sure, lets look at Osama bin Laden... because it would distract attention from Barry Roidball your hero and victim. What the hell happened in the last 5-7 years where we can no long call a spade a spade because we don't have their "perspective". We need to dig our head in that moralistic sandtrap or we're going to have people who don't care about others running roughshod over others because somebody will whine that "somehow he/she must be justified"... all it will take is a skillful tactician in that game to get his/her way over things. I know a highly intelligent guy in my acad. dept who believes there is in fact no truth since all truth is dependent on perception. Of course this who line of thinking is the ultimate destruction of truth and logic... taking it to the 'logical' conclusions, you might as well turn your brain off and go home because we'll get down to the point of thinking about the emotions of a salad and how it feels. Stop listening to the noise and open year ears... there is objective truth and we don't have to take the line of bullcrap that we don't know what its like to be him or don't know him so we shouldn't judge.

                          Ignorance to the harsh truth of the situation is alarming and the attempts to rationalize the same is frightening. Even if you wish real hard it ain't going away and no amount of perspective is going to change the facts that what this man has done is illegal and amoral. I'm not going to cede my own moralistic judgments to somebody else's moralistic judgments because the whole "prespective" issue comes down to rationalizing a way to not face the consequences of actions against society. Nothing more, nothing less.
                          good piece of writing professor pointdexter. i know a hella lot of people in here might think u are the architect in the matrix so i wont even go into why you wrote a genius counter argument to my statement. im kinda reved up about this so i might sound harsh, but sorry to anyone i offend. its the game of baseball man, simple game, positioned hitter goes up to bat and is allowed 3 strikes and 4 balls to try and put the ball in play. just like in basketball, its a simple game, you put the ball in the basket, most points wins, in any sport. if barry took steriods, why would you care to take the time to write that fine peice of writing to counter argue what i said? its all talk man, does Barrys or baseballs roid situation really affect your way of life man? its sports man! its a great time out! every sport has roids whether proven guilty or not for years and years already, whether we regular blokes like it or not! leave the man alone, its over, its done with, i cant believe some of you guys wish him the worst, hes human, so is mccguire, so is canseco, palmero, move on! cry me a river all of you. whether the devil himself goes up and grabs a bat and hits 800 homeruns in a single season i dont care who he is or what he uses, leave him alone, and watch him perform!!! thats just my whole point... geez... i swear people have to go so far to writing a clear concise essay or two just to state their point. its entertainment dude not politics. turn off your brain for once, grab a hotdog, bring your kid, go out to the yard, and boo barry, because you know why? its what makes this American past time soo great, a distraction from reality. PLAY BALL!
                          "We're winners baby! ****in' winners! pushin it to the max, cuz thats how we roll!!!" ~ Brucie

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                          • CMH
                            Making you famous
                            • Oct 2002
                            • 26203

                            #28
                            Re: MLB to celebrate if Bonds passes Aaron

                            [Patman]bzzt... wrong
                            *Actually, it is. He broke the record and MLB will celebrate it. How could you say it wouldn't be cause for celebration? You don't have to celebrate, but MLB will.



                            bzzt... wrong

                            *Steroids has NOTHING to do with Barry breaking the record. If he breaks the record MLB is not going to say, "Well, we think he used steroids, so uh, we can't celebrate. Think for a second here. Whether Barry used steroids or not, MLB is going to celebrate his record breaking homerun. That's not rocket science.*



                            bzzt... wrong (I swear, some of you guys still wouldn't be convinced if Barry came out onto the field like lawnmowerman)

                            *When did I say that Barry didn't use steroids? Learn to read.*

                            Why not, they are doing the same to the fans right now.

                            *And obviously you still don't get it that MLB is a business. Barry Bonds the homerun breaking player will be celebrated. Fans have whined about thousands of things before. MLB is not going to all of a sudden say, "This is the time we listen to the fans and their complaints." Barry broke the record, so they will celebrate it.

                            You, honestly, need to worry about other quotes on this thread. We're talking about the same thing but you apparently can't read between the lines.*
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                            • devilsjaw
                              MVP
                              • Mar 2003
                              • 3572

                              #29
                              Re: MLB to celebrate if Bonds passes Aaron

                              Originally posted by mizzta21
                              wish him well, i dunno how you guys could hate somebody you dont know personally, u should point ur anger towards osama bin laden or something.
                              I find this pretty funny!

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                              • mjb2124
                                Hall Of Fame
                                • Aug 2002
                                • 13649

                                #30
                                Re: MLB to celebrate if Bonds passes Aaron

                                Originally posted by mizzta21
                                i swear people have to go so far to writing a clear concise essay or two just to state their point.
                                Bad higher education......bad!!!

                                I never knew intelligence and being able to formulate a well constructed sentence/paragraph was looked down upon.

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