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  • Misfit
    All Star
    • Mar 2003
    • 5766

    #46
    Re: Example of poor sportsmanship..

    Originally posted by glucklich
    Sure it does. If you want to tell the little leaguers that, fine but I would like to know what the ump did to pi$$ him off.
    No, it doesn't. I don't care what the call is, you do not throw a bat at someone, that is just stupid and senseless. I don't care if it was the worst strike 3 call in the history of the game, you do not intentionally throw a baseball bat. If it was a terrible call the ump will be fired, suspended, whatever, he doesn't deserve to be physically harmed. There is just no better word for his actions following the call other than "stupid."

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    • 4BiddenKnight
      Pro
      • Dec 2004
      • 617

      #47
      Re: Example of poor sportsmanship..

      This deserves a season long suspension.

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      • glucklich
        Banned
        • Jun 2004
        • 4272

        #48
        Re: Example of poor sportsmanship..

        Originally posted by Misfit
        No, it doesn't. I don't care what the call is, you do not throw a bat at someone, that is just stupid and senseless. I don't care if it was the worst strike 3 call in the history of the game, you do not intentionally throw a baseball bat. If it was a terrible call the ump will be fired, suspended, whatever, he doesn't deserve to be physically harmed. There is just no better word for his actions following the call other than "stupid."
        Yeah, thats great but Im not really interested in your outlook on acceptable behavior. Im more interested in the incident itself. Again, save the lecture for the little leaguers.

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        • Misfit
          All Star
          • Mar 2003
          • 5766

          #49
          Re: Example of poor sportsmanship..

          Why? Because it makes a difference? If it was a bad strike three call are you going to excuse his actions and agree that the Ump should have had a bat thrown at him? The situation is nearly irrelevant in this case.

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          • glucklich
            Banned
            • Jun 2004
            • 4272

            #50
            Re: Example of poor sportsmanship..

            Originally posted by Misfit
            Why? Because it makes a difference? If it was a bad strike three call are you going to excuse his actions and agree that the Ump should have had a bat thrown at him? The situation is nearly irrelevant in this case.
            I said I was interested in knowing about the incident itself. Thats all you need to know. Deal with it.

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            • ryanm1058123
              Banned
              • Jan 2004
              • 3628

              #51
              Re: Example of poor sportsmanship..

              This is actually a blessing in disguise because it takes the pressure off of the Devil Rays to call Delmon Young up midseason and waste an arbitration year. With this, they can call him up in September or have him start next year and not waste an arbitration year.

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              • nyisles16
                All Star
                • Apr 2003
                • 8317

                #52
                Re: Example of poor sportsmanship..

                hey - he has a new job - a law firm with Randall Simon..

                Simon & Young - they go around beating umps & sausages with bats....

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                • Misfit
                  All Star
                  • Mar 2003
                  • 5766

                  #53
                  Re: Example of poor sportsmanship..

                  Originally posted by glucklich
                  I said I was interested in knowing about the incident itself. Thats all you need to know. Deal with it.
                  If you can't handle the criticism then don't post.

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                  • Scottdau
                    Banned
                    • Feb 2003
                    • 32580

                    #54
                    Re: Example of poor sportsmanship..

                    Originally posted by nyisles16
                    hey - he has a new job - a law firm with Randall Simon..

                    Simon & Young - they go around beating umps & sausages with bats....
                    Lmao, but that is just plain wrong what he did. That could have hit the guy in the face. I would have him gone for the year! I don't care how heated you get, you do not do that! These players think they can do anything they want, because everybody kisses their asses, Damn, I getting tired of all the people! that think they are so special!

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                    • glucklich
                      Banned
                      • Jun 2004
                      • 4272

                      #55
                      Re: Example of poor sportsmanship..

                      Originally posted by Misfit
                      If you can't handle the criticism then don't post.
                      Who said I couldnt handle criticism. I gave you what you were owed. In that respect, I thought I handled it nicely. Again, deal with it.

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                      • nyisles16
                        All Star
                        • Apr 2003
                        • 8317

                        #56
                        Re: Example of poor sportsmanship..

                        Originally posted by Scottd
                        Lmao, but that is just plain wrong what he did. That could have hit the guy in the face. I would have him gone for the year! I don't care how heated you get, you do not do that! These players think they can do anything they want, because everybody kisses their asses, Damn, I getting tired of all the people! that think they are so special!

                        agreed.. instead of going to the "ball game", now you have the "brawl game".. first its the fans jumping on the field, then the umps who think they are bigger than the game, & now some players who think they can do what they please (Milton Bradley, & now Young).. great example this guy showed for the little ones in the stands..

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                        • Jistic
                          Hall Of Fame
                          • Mar 2003
                          • 16405

                          #57
                          Re: Example of poor sportsmanship..

                          Originally posted by Stoud
                          IMO giving Delmon Young a year long suspension is liken to the situation with Pete Rose. You could be literally condemning the man over this. Are you really prepared to do that?
                          Hell yes. To even show an ounce of leniency in this is incomprehensible to me. Whenever incidents like this or the Auburn Hills brawl in the NBA happen you must be extrememely harsh to set a precedent.

                          That was one of the biggest bitch moves I've ever seen.
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                          • SportsTop
                            The Few. The Proud.
                            • Jul 2003
                            • 6716

                            #58
                            Re: Example of poor sportsmanship..

                            Originally posted by Stoud
                            Oy....you guys....

                            I'm making a statement about the fact that so many people nowadays seem perfectly fine with burning people at the stake in this country...the problem is that in America, there's a little thing called due process. For me, this isn't about the guy hitting the ump with the bat, it's the public upset, outcry, and downright attack of an American who really hasn't been given that. It's pretty clear that he's at fault for the incident, but it's also pretty clear that the incident has been blown up quite a bit. This behavior, as I've said twice now, is unacceptible. The problem is that everyone is willingly burning someone at the stake because a news report said someone did something. If you believe everything you read, or think you see, you're going to see a lot of shadows turn into ghosts or monsters of some kind. That kind of behavior is also unacceptible in a Democratic society.

                            I question this year long suspension thing because it seems like a number someone just thought up off the top of their head...can you provide some realistic reasons why he should get a year long suspension? I feel the need again to mention here that I am not trying to give this guy an excuse, or an easy way out, nor do I condone what he has done in any way, nor do I support it...hell, I don't know how many other ways to say it, but I'm sure I'm going to get further comments on how I'm somehow "on his side". I personally said 3 to 6 months might be reasonable. Why? Because much longer than that could have a serious affect on his career. Baseball is different than many other sports in that respect. You can't just stop playing for a full year and expect to continue on your road at the same pace....a year out of the game could effectively end his career. Are you telling me that his life should be ruined because of an admittedly scary example of poor sportsmanship? Learning your lesson is one thing, having to live with it having destroyed your career for the rest of your life is quite another.

                            IMO giving Delmon Young a year long suspension is liken to the situation with Pete Rose. You could be literally condemning the man over this. Are you really prepared to do that?
                            Oy...you are killin' me....

                            There is something to be said about where we've come as a society so that we have to think about how we are going to react to someone's actions.

                            Was everyone mistaken and rushed to judgement when Roberto Alomar spit at the umpire. I mean, he could've just been screaming and some spit flew out. We should go back to the tape of when Marichal hit Johnny Roseboro with his bat. There's a chance that slipped out of his hands too.

                            It's one to convict someone guilty in the court of public opinion when an incident happens out of the public's view but, as with this case, there were numerous eye-witnesses and a video tape. Given that evidence I see no reason why we can't act as a jury and act as if he were guilty. It's not rocket science, there's no fingerprinting or DNA involved. The guy assaulted someone. End of story.

                            As for coming up with a season long suspension.....his job just so happens to be measured by a finite number of games in a year. Precedent has been set by the Artest brawl last year. And this is worse in my opinion because it could be considered assault with a deadly weapon. Suspend him the rest of the season, make him complete an anger management course, and have him talk to schools in the area about negative behavior before he is reinstated.
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                            • mjb2124
                              Hall Of Fame
                              • Aug 2002
                              • 13649

                              #59
                              Re: Example of poor sportsmanship..

                              Originally posted by Stoud
                              Oy....you guys....

                              I'm making a statement about the fact that so many people nowadays seem perfectly fine with burning people at the stake in this country...
                              I realize you're making a statement, but it's one which has NO merit at all in this instance. Therefore, pointless to bring up. Sure, if we didn't see it and no players talked about it and all we had were rumors, then you have a point. That's not the case. Everyone here has SEEN it. There IS enough proof regarding what Delmon did. Heck, Delmon (the guy who threw the bat) ADMITTED to it and APOLOGIZED for his actions.
                              Last edited by mjb2124; 04-28-2006, 07:58 AM.

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                              • glucklich
                                Banned
                                • Jun 2004
                                • 4272

                                #60
                                Re: Example of poor sportsmanship..

                                Originally posted by Squint
                                Oy...you are killin' me....

                                There is something to be said about where we've come as a society so that we have to think about how we are going to react to someone's actions.

                                Was everyone mistaken and rushed to judgement when Roberto Alomar spit at the umpire. I mean, he could've just been screaming and some spit flew out. We should go back to the tape of when Marichal hit Johnny Roseboro with his bat. There's a chance that slipped out of his hands too.

                                It's one to convict someone guilty in the court of public opinion when an incident happens out of the public's view but, as with this case, there were numerous eye-witnesses and a video tape. Given that evidence I see no reason why we can't act as a jury and act as if he were guilty. It's not rocket science, there's no fingerprinting or DNA involved. The guy assaulted someone. End of story.

                                As for coming up with a season long suspension.....his job just so happens to be measured by a finite number of games in a year. Precedent has been set by the Artest brawl last year. And this is worse in my opinion because it could be considered assault with a deadly weapon. Suspend him the rest of the season, make him complete an anger management course, and have him talk to schools in the area about negative behavior before he is reinstated.
                                So then, do you think he should go to prison?

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