Steve Howe killed in car crash

[rsox]

https://sports.espn.go.com/mlb/news/story?id=2425900

[elicoleman]

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NEW YORK -- Steve Howe, the relief pitcher whose promising career was derailed by cocaine and alcohol abuse, died Friday when his pickup truck rolled over in Coachella, Calif. He was 48.

Funny how things come back ten fold.

[Alliball]

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Funny how things come back ten fold.

You lost me there man. How exactly did things come back ten fold? So he used drugs, but was this kahrma biting him in the butt? I think not.

[elicoleman]

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You lost me there man. How exactly did things come back ten fold? So he used drugs, but was this kahrma biting him in the butt? I think not.

I just have no sympathy whatsoever for drug users. That's all.

[Vince]

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I just have no sympathy whatsoever for drug users. That's all.

Unless his being killed had anything to do with Drugs or alcohol, that is really a cold thing to say.

You act as if everyone in this world is perfect. A lot of people have demonds that they can't fight off and end up taking over them.

[BGarrett7]

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Unless his being killed had anything to do with Drugs or alcohol, that is really a cold thing to say.

Something we don't know yet, by the way, since toxicology tests had yet to be performed when the story broke.

[elicoleman]

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Unless his being killed had anything to do with Drugs or alcohol, that is really a cold thing to say.

You act as if everyone in this world is perfect. A lot of people have demonds that they can't fight off and end up taking over them.

Well no one knows for sure whether or not he was killed due to drugs/alcohol. But either way, I just don't have sympathy for guys like that.

I feel sorry for his family members, and those who are grieving right now, but for him...not so much. Not trying to be a dick or anything, just stating how I feel.

[BGarrett7]

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Well no one knows for sure whether or not he was killed due to drugs/alcohol. But either way, I just don't have sympathy for guys like that.

Even if he had cleaned himself up and been sober for years?

[elicoleman]

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Even if he had cleaned himself up and been sober for years?

I doubt he's done that, but even if had he been, I'm just the kind of guy that really doesn't forget (just how I am, if that makes me wrong...that's where we'll differ). Someone with so much talent, and completely ****s it all away with something so pointless and dumb.

But I don't mean to make this a "piss on Steve Howe" thread because I didn't mean to turn it into that. So I'll leave those as my last comments.

[SPTO]

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Eli you really can't judge a person like that man. I know he was a rampant drug and alcohol abuser and it seems to me he probably never reformed but the general idea is to put that asside and pay respects.

you can call him out on his abuses AFTER tho.

Anywho, RIP to Howe. He had so much potential to be one of the great relievers of all time. It's a shame that substance abuse took that away from him.

[nyisles16]

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man..sorry to hear.. i can remember him as a Yank (not really so much as a Dodger).. i remember a game when he tried to pick a guy off third he threw the ball into the stands.. at least he is a peace now & doesnt have to fight his evils anymore. . RIP Howe

[elTodd]

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I'm gonna agree with Eli on this one. I really have no sympathy for anyone who does drugs. I just don't really understand it. You know it can ruin your life, but you do it anyways.

It is a tragedy however to die at 48. I feel for his loved ones.

[PdiddyPop]

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Putting his troubles aside for a sec.....RIP. Too young to be dead. As for his demons....as long as he did drugs he just hurt himself. It's not like he raped someone, beat someone, or killed someone. It was his choice, and his disease he had to fight. At least now maybe he doesn't have to fight those demons anymore. I know how the family feels, because a lot of my family members have been rampant drug users. Doesn't mean I love them any less. Yes it's sad to see them the way they are, but again I still love them.

[ExtremeGamer]

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Just amazing that 2 of you could basically care less that he's dead. Sure, he wasted away his career, and I don't have anything for drug users either. But I also know what temptations can be and what can happen. He fell in a trap, and eventually got clean after his baseball life was over.

So, Eli, if Derek Jeter gets busted for roids tomorrow, are you going to wish for his death too?

[elicoleman]

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So, Eli, if Derek Jeter gets busted for roids tomorrow, are you going to wish for his death too?

There's a difference man. I never wished death upon Howe, I simply said I had no sympathy for someone that does drugs. That'd include Jeter, Brady, etc.

I'll give an analogy...If I found out today, my mom had lung cancer (which she could perhaps later on, as she smoked a good while), I wouldn't feel sympathy because she knew the consequences of smoking. It'd absolutely kill me inside knowing she had it, and nothing I could do to stop it. May sound harsh, but if you know the affects of something harmful and continue to do it, I just can't feel bad for them.