If Francisco Liriano isn't an All Star, then neither is anyone else in the AL.

[VanillaGorilla]

This guy is unreal. Check the numbers:

2.07 ERA
86.1 IP
57 Hits
103 K's

Oh, and he's been in the rotation since May 19th. And these are his starts since then:

5 IP, 2 H, 1 ER, 5 K's (Win)
5 IP, 4 H, 0 ER, 6 K's (Win)
6 IP, 1 H, 0 ER, 4 K's (Win)
6 IP, 7 H, 3 ER, 3 K's (Loss)
7 IP, 1 H, 0 ER, 6 K's (Win)
7 IP, 5 H, 2 ER, 11 K's (Win)
8 IP, 4 H, 2 ER, 7 K's (Win)
7 IP, 5 H, 2 ER, 8 K's (Win)
8 IP, 2 H, 0 ER's, 12 K's (Win)

So, he's given up more than 6 hits in one of his 9 starts. He's also given up 3 runs in a start only once, and 0 runs in 4 of his 9 starts. Oh, and he is now LEADING the American League in ERA, coming in at 2.07. So, AL leader in ERA, best pitcher in baseball the last 2 months, 9 wins, what could possibly keep this guy, one of the rising stars of Major League Baseball, out of the All Star Game?

On a seperate note, Jose Contreras, the guy everyone is fawning over because he's won 13 straight decisions, has a 6.21 ERA in June, and in his last 6 starts, has given up 48 hits? Liriano's last 6 starts? 24. It helps when the White Sox score 41 runs in those 6 starts.

[Stoud]

Re: If Francisco Liriano isn't an All Star, then neither is anyone else in the AL.

So, AL leader in ERA, best pitcher in baseball the last 2 months, 9 wins, what could possibly keep this guy, one of the rising stars of Major League Baseball, out of the All Star Game?

Well..gee...howabout the sad fact that the All-Star game has never been about rising young stars? It's about who's been doing what, and how long they've been doing it. How else do you explain those high votes for Piazza the last few years? Voters don't give a crap about what someone has done for you lately, they want to know what you've done for them the past couple years.

There's a reason that Jose Lopez, playing in Seattle, currently one of the top if not the top second basemen in the AL, is most likely ALSO not going to the All-Star game.

We can argue and complain about the way people vote for the All-Star game until the day is old, but that doesn't change the facts. You can't just act like there's no reason why Liriano shouldn't be in the All-Star game, because you and I both know that regardless of how stupid it is, there is a very real reason why that could happen.

[GBrushTWood]

Re: If Francisco Liriano isn't an All Star, then neither is anyone else in the AL.

Voters only choose the starting lineups for both teams. They have no say on the starting pitchers and relievers selected.

pwned.

[Scottdau]

Re: If Francisco Liriano isn't an All Star, then neither is anyone else in the AL.

$%@$ the Giants GM! He should have been fired for letting this kid go!

[CMH]

Re: If Francisco Liriano isn't an All Star, then neither is anyone else in the AL.

I didn't realize the teams had already been selected.

Getting upset about something that hasn't even happened yet? Wow...

[VanillaGorilla]

Re: If Francisco Liriano isn't an All Star, then neither is anyone else in the AL.

I was wrong, his ERA is now 1.99. I guess a sub 2 ERA and 9 wins, in the American League, isn't good enough to get an All Star nod. Oh, but Mark Redman and his 5.59 ERA is. This All Star "every team with a player" rule is absolute garbage. Are people in Kansas City REALLY gonna watch the game because Mark Redman is in it? Uh, no, they are gonna watch it for the REAL All Stars. A complete joke.

[Scottdau]

Re: If Francisco Liriano isn't an All Star, then neither is anyone else in the AL.

I was wrong, his ERA is now 1.99. I guess a sub 2 ERA and 9 wins, in the American League, isn't good enough to get an All Star nod. Oh, but Mark Redman and his 5.59 ERA is. This All Star "every team with a player" rule is absolute garbage. Are people in Kansas City REALLY gonna watch the game because Mark Redman is in it? Uh, no, they are gonna watch it for the REAL All Stars. A complete joke.

The bottom line he is a rookie. Baseball is all about proving yourself! That is why players go because of what they have done in the past! That is just how baseball does it!

[INeedShades]

Re: If Francisco Liriano isn't an All Star, then neither is anyone else in the AL.

So, the leagues ERA leader and OPS leader are left off. Stupendous.

The NL can put Uggla and McCann and Freddy Sanchez in, but Guillen leaves off Hafner, Liriano, Verlander.

[CWood2]

Re: If Francisco Liriano isn't an All Star, then neither is anyone else in the AL.

So, the leagues ERA leader and OPS leader are left off. Stupendous.

The NL can put Uggla and McCann and Freddy Sanchez in, but Guillen leaves off Hafner, Liriano, Verlander.

All the more reason to HATE Guillen...

[bergie56]

Re: If Francisco Liriano isn't an All Star, then neither is anyone else in the AL.

Liriano can still be an all-star. He is one of the players that fans can cast their final vote to get in. I hope he makes it but I don't think he will.

[Psyblast]

Re: If Francisco Liriano isn't an All Star, then neither is anyone else in the AL.

All the more reason to HATE Guillen...

Like he doesn't give people enough reasons....heh.

[CWood2]

Re: If Francisco Liriano isn't an All Star, then neither is anyone else in the AL.

Like he doesn't give people enough reasons....heh.

Like it's his life's mission statement...good point. :wink:

[ExtremeGamer]

Re: If Francisco Liriano isn't an All Star, then neither is anyone else in the AL.

$%@$ the Giants GM! He should have been fired for letting this kid go!

I think you could have masked that a little better, don't you?

[Lintyfresh85]

Re: If Francisco Liriano isn't an All Star, then neither is anyone else in the AL.

so what do they do... They put Hafner, Liriano and Verlander all on the final vote... I ****ing hate Guillen and the AL fans that had to have their precious NY Yankees and Red Sox on the starting lineups ****ing up the reserves as well as the starters for the team.

[Dispatch]

Re: If Francisco Liriano isn't an All Star, then neither is anyone else in the AL.

I think that all of the Red Sox players deserve it personally. Manny, Ortiz enough said, Papelbon 25 saves era under .50 I'd say he deserves it. Loretta is the only questionable but he has been on fire lately. But yea I think the general idea is that everyone hates Guillen.