If Francisco Liriano isn't an All Star, then neither is anyone else in the AL.

[ExtremeGamer]

Re: If Francisco Liriano isn't an All Star, then neither is anyone else in the AL.

I think that all of the Red Sox players deserve it personally. Manny, Ortiz enough said, Papelbon 25 saves era under .50 I'd say he deserves it. Loretta is the only questionable but he has been on fire lately. But yea I think the general idea is that everyone hates Guillen.

I have no problems with the Red Sox players there. Even Loretta, besides Lopez, no other AL 2nd basemen could start. The Yankees I have issues with though.

Hafner shouldn't be there IMO. He's a DH, this is a NL game, he's off. Liriano is a no brainer IMO.

[petrojelly05]

Re: If Francisco Liriano isn't an All Star, then neither is anyone else in the AL.

Hafner shouldn't be there IMO. He's a DH

what you say!!! lol

hafner is my boy. he's the kinda guy i wanna see in the all star. shrek!

[Beantown]

Re: If Francisco Liriano isn't an All Star, then neither is anyone else in the AL.

Liriano should get the final spot...and like GBrush said...all those Red Sox players actually deserve to be there. Loretta's been one of the best AL 2B, and like EG said only other one you could really make a case to start would be Lopez.

[Lintyfresh85]

Re: If Francisco Liriano isn't an All Star, then neither is anyone else in the AL.

I have no problems with the Red Sox players there. Even Loretta, besides Lopez, no other AL 2nd basemen could start. The Yankees I have issues with though.

Hafner shouldn't be there IMO. He's a DH, this is a NL game, he's off. Liriano is a no brainer IMO.

And Ortiz does? He's a DH as well... if it applies to one guy, it applies to them all.

[Lintyfresh85]

Re: If Francisco Liriano isn't an All Star, then neither is anyone else in the AL.

btw Hafner is also leading the league in OPS... after finishing second the previous two years... the man deserves the spot... it's just a joke that he's going to have to fight Liriano and Verlander for it... all 3 deserve it.

[Vince]

Re: If Francisco Liriano isn't an All Star, then neither is anyone else in the AL.

I think I may vote for Pronky.

[TheMatrix31]

Re: If Francisco Liriano isn't an All Star, then neither is anyone else in the AL.

Can't believe Liriano is left off...

That's a disgrace.

[BunnyHardaway]

Re: If Francisco Liriano isn't an All Star, then neither is anyone else in the AL.

The Royals, for the 900th consecutive year, continue to show us how stupid the "all teams represented" rule is.

[rubisco43]

Re: If Francisco Liriano isn't an All Star, then neither is anyone else in the AL.

deserving players get left off the roster every year... this year is no different.

[ExtremeGamer]

Re: If Francisco Liriano isn't an All Star, then neither is anyone else in the AL.

And Ortiz does? He's a DH as well... if it applies to one guy, it applies to them all.

So, you take 2 DH's? I would say Ortiz's numbers are better than Hafner's. Also adding in the Indians are 20 games out of first. I'm an Indians fan, but there's no way I can say Hafner needs to be there over Liriano.

[mgoblue]

Re: If Francisco Liriano isn't an All Star, then neither is anyone else in the AL.

deserving players get left off the roster every year... this year is no different.

yes, this is very true. I just think that if MLB is going to stupidly keep having the home field for the WS decided by the All Star Game then the "1 player from each team" rule should go away. If MLB just makes it a fun exhibition that doesn't matter, then I don't mind 1 player from each team. Then we debate people who got left off, complain, etc. However, in the current state, winning the AS game matters big time, and therefore they should have the absolute best out there.

I don't mind fans voting, they're usually not that stupid, and you can't get rid of that aspect.

I just really hate that home field is determined in what's supposed to be a fun lighthearted exhibition game.

[Lintyfresh85]

Re: If Francisco Liriano isn't an All Star, then neither is anyone else in the AL.

So, you take 2 DH's? I would say Ortiz's numbers are better than Hafner's. Also adding in the Indians are 20 games out of first. I'm an Indians fan, but there's no way I can say Hafner needs to be there over Liriano.

You either take both or you take neither... Neither is a first basemen...

[Beantown]

Re: If Francisco Liriano isn't an All Star, then neither is anyone else in the AL.

Ortiz was written in by the fans, can't just not take him.

Like I said in the other thread, if anyone is starting at first base, it should be Konerko, as he is the only first baseman on the roster, but since the fans vote for the starters and the wrote in David ortiz, can't argue against that.

[Lintyfresh85]

Re: If Francisco Liriano isn't an All Star, then neither is anyone else in the AL.

you're right you can't argue there... I was just pointing out that EG's argument isn't correct in the fact that he's calling out Hafner as a DH only... when Ortiz is exactly the same thing.


Not to say that I am arguing with EG I just think they are both deserving yet they can't both make the team because Ozzie has to go with his White Sox and having to pick a player from each team is screwing up a meaningful game.... if it was just an exhibition game I would have no problem with taking one from each team... but now that it's for homefield they need to go to the best players not Mark Redman from the Royals.

[SportsTop]

Re: If Francisco Liriano isn't an All Star, then neither is anyone else in the AL.

The bottom line he is a rookie. Baseball is all about proving yourself! That is why players go because of what they have done in the past! That is just how baseball does it!

Really?

I guess two of the all-time best storylines in All-Star history are now rendered moot because they centered around rookies.

Fernando Valenzuela and Dwight Gooden anyone?

The point is that the rookie argument doesn't fly. Plenty of rookies have been selected and made an impact on the game for that to even be considered a negating factor.

Liriano got snubbed. Plain and simple.