I Don't Blame Ozzie Guillen for Chewing Out Garland

**BGarrett7** · 07-23-2006, 10:28 PM

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Let's see if Guillen tries to send Garland down the minors now...

**SPTO** · 07-23-2006, 10:34 PM

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Originally posted by BGarrett7

Let's see if Guillen tries to send Garland down the minors now...

The highlights I saw showed him basically making up with Garland after. Even Ozzie's not stupid enough to have a feud with one of his top starters.

I cringed when I saw that tho. It's like this guy has zero restraint. He strikes me as a manager that will burn out very quickly with whatever team he manages. In this case the White Sox.

**WazzuRC** · 07-23-2006, 10:37 PM

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Originally posted by Rod_Carew29

I just saw the highlights of the game earlier today between the Rangers and Chisox. There were a couple of beanball incidents back on June 14th between the two teams.

Its been, let me get this straight, almost a month and half since that incident took place and people still want to continue it?! When you are the White Sox, you cannot be thinking about little incidents like these when you're battling for the division lead as well as maintaining the wild card. Its absolutely ridiculous that Garland goes out there and throws a gem and still gets bitched at. You call that installing confidence in your starting pitchers? Right now, the White Sox biggest weakness is the way that the SP have been pitching lately and you can ill afford to lose the one guy that's actually been pitching well for you to some stupid incident that happened this long ago. Good God, man let it go. This is exactly why I'd love it if Garland just threw at Guillen from the mound. I can't stand Guillen for the crap that he pulls day in and day out.

**GregO** · 07-24-2006, 12:03 AM

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Ozzie was very dumb...why the fuq wud you chow out your best pitcher right now for something that happened more then a month ago! I just dont see why...I could see him talking to him about it...but yelling his brains out to the young gun? If Garland did hit him(which he tried obviously to do) Garland would have been thrown out right there...and we might not have won the game with how weve been playing lately...Ozzie has to settle down if he wants us to be world champs for longer then one year...heck, if he wants us in the playoffs.

But still...In Ozzie I Trust

**rpac44** · 07-24-2006, 01:03 AM

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ozzie's trying to show that no matter who you are, you better do what you're supposed to in any given situation-especially on a championship caliber team, and with the way they've played since the allstar break that's the right message imo. i will admit that when he was first shown yelling at jon i was a little worried that it was gonna mess with his head but, judging by the way he continued to pitch for his 8.1 innings, it didnt have much of an effect, so once he continued to pitch well for the rest of the game only positive things (except for all the media bashing ozzie's gonna take) are going to come out of this from the white sox perspective

props to jon for a much needed great outing today btw

**Dice** · 07-24-2006, 08:11 AM

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This is one of the few times that I cannot agree with Ozzie on this one.

We are riding a 4 game losing streak, the Tigers are starting to pull away from us, the Twins is hot on our tails AND the Yankees/Red Sox are closing in on the Wild Card race. We cannot loose risking Jon Garland to suspension. He's been one of our best picthers this year. Now the warning wasn't issued during the time he could have plunked him BUT you never know with MLB. They still could have suspended him on princple AND we don't need that right now.

Besides, why plunk Kinsler? Why not plunk the sluggers in Young, Tiexeria or Blalock. If I was Ozzie and I wanted to hit someone go after one of the top hitters in the lineup. Just my thought.

**Stu** · 07-24-2006, 09:11 AM

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The thing I don't understand is why Ozzie needs his pitchers to actually hit the other guys. In most case, an attempt to hit him is considered good enough and sends the same message.

**GBrushTWood** · 07-24-2006, 10:41 AM

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Originally posted by camulos

The thing I don't understand is why Ozzie needs his pitchers to actually hit the other guys. In most case, an attempt to hit him is considered good enough and sends the same message.

It just looks really weak and pansy.

The other guy, Padilla, drilled the White Sox hitter, pretty obviously, and connected hard. So, the White Sox pitcher comes back, and TRIES to hit the dude but he misses. Ok, fine. Then he comes back on the next pitch and tries again, but misses again. It just makes the missing pitcher look like a momo because he can't get the job done.

**Graphik** · 07-24-2006, 10:50 AM

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Originally posted by GBrushTWood

It just looks really weak and pansy.

The other guy, Padilla, drilled the White Sox hitter, pretty obviously, and connected hard. So, the White Sox pitcher comes back, and TRIES to hit the dude but he misses. Ok, fine. Then he comes back on the next pitch and tries again, but misses again. It just makes the missing pitcher look like a momo because he can't get the job done.

I agree, lets worry about winning first Ozzie. Then, he can plunk all the batters he wants.

BTW, the batter Paddilla hit is Alex Cintron. Ozzie makes it seem like beaning batters is within the rules of the game when its that unwritten rule. He could at least be discreet about it.

**Misfit** · 07-24-2006, 12:46 PM

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Thats why I think he's being an idiot about the whole thing. Ozzie may get himself suspended for his little tirade in the dugout and comments to the media. Thats why you do that crap in the tunnel or the clubhouse so that MLB has no reason to fine/suspend you.

**SPTO** · 07-24-2006, 02:18 PM

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Originally posted by Misfit

Thats why I think he's being an idiot about the whole thing. Ozzie may get himself suspended for his little tirade in the dugout and comments to the media. Thats why you do that crap in the tunnel or the clubhouse so that MLB has no reason to fine/suspend you.

bingo!

Also I was thinking about this last night. It's a good thing that there aren't any real old school managers out there right now like Lou Pinella or Hal McCrae. If that were the case you'd see one hell of a nasty beanball war and I don't care who started it but Ozzie would get the majority of the blame.

It just seems to me Ozzie has anger issues or something.

**Graphik** · 07-24-2006, 02:34 PM

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Originally posted by SPTO

bingo!

Also I was thinking about this last night. It's a good thing that there aren't any real old school managers out there right now like Lou Pinella or Hal McCrae. If that were the case you'd see one hell of a nasty beanball war and I don't care who started it but Ozzie would get the majority of the blame.

It just seems to me Ozzie has anger issues or something.

I'm honestly starting to think he's an attention whore. Cursing out the best pitcher in your staff over a freaking beaning? A free base at that...which in turn could cost you a run? He's taking this thing to an extreme.

**GregO** · 07-24-2006, 05:22 PM

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The only thing i like about this is he is trying to protect his players...

**Chip Douglass** · 07-24-2006, 06:38 PM

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Regardless of the fact Garland threw 8-1/3 shutout innings, he gets chewed out for not intentionally hitting a batter...

Even if he throws behind him, he's sending the same message.

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