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  • DirrtySouth78
    Pro
    • Dec 2005
    • 588

    #31
    Re: Is Gary Sheffield done with NY?

    Originally posted by BGarrett7
    But you seemed to have forgoten that this isn't just a game for these players -- it's a job. Regardless of whether or not their job is something that the rest of us can do for fun, the employers of these guys are still that, employers. So, despite the fact that I may or may not want to make the move that my boss requests of me, I am still at his or her discretion because they are the ones who sign my check. If Sheff doesn't want to move to first or some other position, then he can seek employment elsewhere, just like if any of us declined to make a management suggested position switch.

    Agree Whole-heartedly...I work at the Olive Garden & it would be like me walking in there & them saying were gonna put you here today & I say No, I'm working right here cause I like it here...Thats not gonna fly too well...Athletes are too spoiled nowadays...They think cause they All-Stars they can call the shots

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    • rsox
      All Star
      • Feb 2003
      • 6309

      #32
      Re: Is Gary Sheffield done with NY?

      Originally posted by BGarrett7
      But you seemed to have forgoten that this isn't just a game for these players -- it's a job. Regardless of whether or not their job is something that the rest of us can do for fun, the employers of these guys are still that, employers. So, despite the fact that I may or may not want to make the move that my boss requests of me, I am still at his or her discretion because they are the ones who sign my check. If Sheff doesn't want to move to first or some other position, then he can seek employment elsewhere, just like if any of us declined to make a management suggested position switch.
      Exactly.

      Also, never use the "at your job" analogy when discussing athletes and position changes. "At my job" and probably at yours too, if your boss told you to "move your desk" or do anything else you don't want to do and you refuse to do it they will find someone who is willing to do it and show you the door.

      "At my job" i have worked 5 different positions because i was asked to, a couple of them i did not want to. But i could either work and get paid or refuse and go home, and i don't know about you but unlike Gary Sheffield i'm not getting paid $13.million dollars so i don't have the luxury of refusing many things.

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      • CMH
        Making you famous
        • Oct 2002
        • 26203

        #33
        Re: Is Gary Sheffield done with NY?

        You guys misread me.

        I said you wouldn't be happy about it.

        The discussion here is that Sheffield wouldn't WANT to move to another position. Obviously, if he doesn't then he'd get traded or won't be re-signed.

        But, every example you guys gave points to you not being totally happy about the change. You do it because you respect your employer and most importantly you want to keep your job. Still doesn't mean you'll like it.
        "It may well be that we spectators, who are not divinely gifted as athletes, are the only ones able to truly see, articulate and animate the experience of the gift we are denied. And that those who receive and act out the gift of athletic genius must, perforce, be blind and dumb about it -- and not because blindness and dumbness are the price of the gift, but because they are its essence." - David Foster Wallace

        "You'll not find more penny-wise/pound-foolish behavior than in Major League Baseball." - Rob Neyer

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        • nyyanksfan20
          MVP
          • Feb 2003
          • 1650

          #34
          Re: Is Gary Sheffield done with NY?

          Sheff told the media today, he understands why they got Abreu because he can't help the Yankees now and that he has no problem with DHing OR playing 1b. He plans on working with Mattingly at 1b.
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          • rsox
            All Star
            • Feb 2003
            • 6309

            #35
            Re: Is Gary Sheffield done with NY?

            Originally posted by nyyanksfan20
            Sheff told the media today, he understands why they got Abreu because he can't help the Yankees now and that he has no problem with DHing OR playing 1b. He plans on working with Mattingly at 1b.
            If you're going to learn how to play the position there is certainly no better to teach you how than Don Mattingly.

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            • nyyanksfan20
              MVP
              • Feb 2003
              • 1650

              #36
              Re: Is Gary Sheffield done with NY?

              Originally posted by rsox
              If you're going to learn how to play the position there is certainly no better to teach you how than Don Mattingly.
              And he did play 3rd, so its not like he's a complete stranger to the infield.
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              • 1hotballa
                Rookie
                • Mar 2005
                • 361

                #37
                Re: Is Gary Sheffield done with NY?

                Originally posted by nyyanksfan20
                And he did play 3rd, so its not like he's a complete stranger to the infield.

                He was also 24 and about 50 lbs lighter. He hasnt played there since 1993, 13 years ago.

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                • nyyanksfan20
                  MVP
                  • Feb 2003
                  • 1650

                  #38
                  Re: Is Gary Sheffield done with NY?

                  Originally posted by 1hotballa
                  He was also 24 and about 50 lbs lighter. He hasnt played there since 1993, 13 years ago.
                  Actually he played it last year for like 2 innings.
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                  • ehh
                    Hall Of Fame
                    • Mar 2003
                    • 28962

                    #39
                    Re: Is Gary Sheffield done with NY?

                    This is gonna be a scary sight seeing Sheff at first base.
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                    • TheMatrix31
                      RF
                      • Jul 2002
                      • 52920

                      #40
                      Re: Is Gary Sheffield done with NY?

                      Originally posted by Maddog31
                      And being a complete dud in the playoffs.
                      ...Who wasn't?

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                      • 1hotballa
                        Rookie
                        • Mar 2005
                        • 361

                        #41
                        Re: Is Gary Sheffield done with NY?

                        Originally posted by nyyanksfan20
                        Actually he played it last year for like 2 innings.

                        Are you seriously going to count that? Jose Canseco pitched a few innings, so did Wade Boggs, would we consider them to be options to pitch?

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                        • 1hotballa
                          Rookie
                          • Mar 2005
                          • 361

                          #42
                          Re: Is Gary Sheffield done with NY?

                          Originally posted by rsox
                          And Sheffield will not move to First Base even if it means the Yankees would pick up his option.

                          When the Marlins traded Sheffield to the Dodgers in 1998 he spent the entire season whining about having to play LF, After the '98 season he told the Dodgers that if he did not play RF the next season then they would have to trade him. This went back and fourth for a couple of months and then the Dodgers asked Raul Mondesi to move from RF to LF, Mondesi wasn't happy in Left and would be traded after the '99 season.

                          Sheffield is not a team first kind of guy and while he is a very athletic player and could easily make the transisition from the OF to 1B he will probably balk at the idea of moving. Someone will sign him over the winter, but he may have to open up to the idea of playing different position be it the OF, 1B or DH.

                          I guess you were 100% wrong about that.

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                          • rsox
                            All Star
                            • Feb 2003
                            • 6309

                            #43
                            Re: Is Gary Sheffield done with NY?

                            Originally posted by 1hotballa
                            I guess you were 100% wrong about that.
                            Saying he'll do it for a month (or less, depending on when he comes back) is not the same as saying he will move there permanently. Sheffield did not say anything about playing there beyond the remainder of this season.

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                            • 1hotballa
                              Rookie
                              • Mar 2005
                              • 361

                              #44
                              Re: Is Gary Sheffield done with NY?

                              Originally posted by rsox
                              Saying he'll do it for a month (or less, depending on when he comes back) is not the same as saying he will move there permanently. Sheffield did not say anything about playing there beyond the remainder of this season.

                              Yeah, so because he would do it this year means he wont do it next year... hmm

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                              • rsox
                                All Star
                                • Feb 2003
                                • 6309

                                #45
                                Re: Is Gary Sheffield done with NY?

                                Apparently i was 100% RIGHT about Sheffield not wanting to play First Base. Sheffield told USA Today that "This will not work, this will not work at all". "I don't want to play First Base for a year for them. I will not do that"

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