What record goes down first?

[Chip Douglass]

Re: What record goes down first?

Neither will be broken, but I will say I've seen more people approach DiMaggio's hitting streak, (i.e. Pete Rose (44), Jimmy Rollins (38), and currently Chase Utley (35)), than Hershiser's scoreless-inning streak.

You don't see many pitchers throw 20 or even 30-shutout innings too often, let alone in one game.

[SPTO]

Re: What record goes down first?

Doesn't matter. It is a 56 game hitting streak. He can have all the unofficial at-bats for 10 straight games, but he still went without a hit in those 10 games. Games in which the record book will say that he played in. Dimaggio had a hit in 56 straight games.

That doesn't seem fair if he had a game with unofficial ABs that means he never got a chance to hit the ball. I think people are sophisicated enough to allow some slack when it comes to that.

I mean if you're not even given a CHANCE to hit the ball how can they put that against the guy?

[Brandon13]

Re: What record goes down first?

Ever is a very, very long time so I figure at least one of these records has to be broken at some point. I went with the hit streak.

[bravosfan]

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Somewhat related, Utley's 35-game streak probably just ended...

[EaglesFan]

Re: What record goes down first?

It did end, and he was robbed on a sweet play by Valentin. But they won.

That 56 game hitting streak might just be the hardest record to break in all of sports.

[TheMatrix31]

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The 56-game hitting streak will never be broken. Ever.

[JoseValentinWooo]

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You don't see many pitchers throw 20 or even 30-shutout innings too often, let alone in one game.

Perhaps this is due to the fact that most games are 9 innings long?

[redskinrussell]

Re: What record goes down first?

Neither will be broken, but I will say I've seen more people approach DiMaggio's hitting streak, (i.e. Pete Rose (44), Jimmy Rollins (38), and currently Chase Utley (35)), than Hershiser's scoreless-inning streak.

I dont think you can say anyone is approaching the record if they are still more than 10 games away from it.

[dkgojackets]

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Ill be shocked to see either of these broken.

[CoRruPt-]

Re: What record goes down first?

Perhaps this is due to the fact that most games are 9 innings long?

I'm pretty sure he meant over a span of several games.
And if I had to pick one of them, I'd probably pick the hit record. You have more opportunities to continue a hit streak in a game because you get 4-5 ABs, while if a pitcher screws up and gives up a run, the streak's over for him (and there's so many ways a pitcher can give a run up). Not that either streak will be easy to break, obviously, but the hit streak is what I'd go with considering that slight advantage.

[1hotballa]

Re: What record goes down first?

Order of what will NOT be broken:

Orel's scoreless IP streak
Gagne's save streak
Joe D's hitting streak

[SPTO]

Re: What record goes down first?

Gagne's save streak

Considering he achieved that relatively recently in the past then I think it can be broken or tied.

I still think Vander Meer's back to back No-Nos will never ever be touched.

[vegasmike]

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Most games lost in opponents last at bat. Cleveland Indians already have 15 so far this season. They have to be approaching the record?

[Psyblast]

Re: What record goes down first?

Most games lost in opponents last at bat. Cleveland Indians already have 15 so far this season. They have to be approaching the record?

I don't have any idea how Carmona is going to recover. Three walkoff losses in his last three appearences.

[Blzer]

Re: What record goes down first?

I didn't read at all past the first page, but Joe Dimaggio's hitting streak will never be broken.

Nowadays, players are aware of what they're chasing, only because they are constantly reminded somehow (ESPN, the scoreboard, whatever). Alfonso Soriano was one home run shy of becoming the first player ever to have a 40/40/40 season (HR/SB/2B). He had an entire week and then some to get that last home run. What did he do? He overswung, extended, and rolled over all week, and never got that home run.

If a player is reminded about such a thing like the hitting streak, they'll do nothing but obsess over it, and we all know this. Look at Chase Utley in those at bats in St. Louis (before he got a hit in the games), and tell me that he wasn't pressing for a hit. You can just see it in his regular mechanics that he's thinking about the streak. He's going out of his regular. He had one more at bat in a game (well, ended up being second-to-last) where he swung at a pitch that was 8 inches off of the outside and knicked the dirt before the catcher caught it. He was not about to walk and give up that streak. He ended up hitting that debatable chopper to the pitcher that he beat out (hit, error, fielder's choice?). Did you see how hard he was running? Granted, he wouldn't have gotten the hit if he didn't run as hard as he did, but that just shows how much he was thinking about it.

When a player is in that groove, they normally won't do well. This is sort of the same thing that I talked about with players that tend to choke in "clutch" situations... because they go out of their norm, and they try and overdo what they should be. They obsess over the situation more than anything. The really good players in those situations stick to what they've done all year, and normally perform around that same average, if not better.



That said, there's a much better chance for a position player to take on 0-for-56 before getting a 56-game hitting streak. I don't see Hershiser's streak being broken very easily though, either. Even IF a reliever were to have so many great outings, recall that they come in a lot of times with runners in scoring position. Though a run that may potentially score isn't his earned run, it still is a run scored while he's pitching.







Will either be broken? I doubt it. But Joe D.'s is much tougher to break IMO.