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  • Blzer
    Resident film pundit
    • Mar 2004
    • 42520

    #31
    Re: What record goes down first?

    Originally posted by SPTO
    I still think Vander Meer's back to back No-Nos will never ever be touched.
    I easily see this happening before Hershiser or Dimaggio get touched. Don't ask why... but I do.
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    • Brandon13
      All Star
      • Oct 2005
      • 8915

      #32
      Re: What record goes down first?

      I think that both of these records will probably, at some point, be broken. The one record in baseball that I don't ever think will be broken is Nolan Ryan's 7 career no hitters. I would be completely shocked if anyone EVER broke this record.

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      • TheMatrix31
        RF
        • Jul 2002
        • 52920

        #33
        Re: What record goes down first?

        I view the 7 no-hitters as more of an "achievement" and not a "record", if you know what I mean...

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        • snepp
          We'll waste him too.
          • Apr 2003
          • 10007

          #34
          Re: What record goes down first?

          Originally posted by TheMatrix31
          I view the 7 no-hitters as more of an "achievement" and not a "record", if you know what I mean...
          I agree completely. I also view 755 homeruns as an achievement.

          And 4256 hits...

          And 5,714 strikeouts...

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          • imapotato
            Banned
            • Jun 2005
            • 824

            #35
            Re: What record goes down first?

            I am going to go the other way here

            I say the hit streak falls before the scorless IP streak

            Reason?

            Because offense and HRs are up and that brings in ignorant casual baseball fans that want to see 15-11 games, so baseball has a tighter wound ball since 1994 (and steroids gets the most blame)

            Smaller ballparks etc.

            So offense is up and we have seen Luis Castillo, Rollins, Utley and even Benito Santiago go over 29 games

            Yet no one has come close to 30 scoreless IP, much less 50

            Not even Papelbon

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            • ehh
              Hall Of Fame
              • Mar 2003
              • 28962

              #36
              Re: What record goes down first?

              Originally posted by SPTO
              Nah,

              Johnny Vander Meer's back to back No-Hitters in one season will NEVER be broken.
              I think it's more likely that will happen before anyone hits in 57 straight.
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              • SportsTop
                The Few. The Proud.
                • Jul 2003
                • 6716

                #37
                Re: What record goes down first?

                Originally posted by ehh
                I think it's more likely that will happen before anyone hits in 57 straight.
                No way, no how.

                Back-to-back no-hitters is as much of an untouchable as Cy Young's 511 wins or Nolan Ryan's strikeout record.

                Players have at least proven that 56 can be approached. To get close to a second no-hitter you have to be lucky enough to get the first no-hitter, which is a rare occurance by itself.
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                • CoRruPt-
                  MVP
                  • Jun 2005
                  • 1279

                  #38
                  Re: What record goes down first?

                  Originally posted by Squint
                  No way, no how.

                  Back-to-back no-hitters is as much of an untouchable as Cy Young's 511 wins or Nolan Ryan's strikeout record.

                  Players have at least proven that 56 can be approached. To get close to a second no-hitter you have to be lucky enough to get the first no-hitter, which is a rare occurance by itself.
                  Plus a lot of no-hitters are a cause of a good defense playing behind the pitcher and luck, which is out of the pitcher's control .

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                  • SPTO
                    binging
                    • Feb 2003
                    • 68046

                    #39
                    Re: What record goes down first?

                    Originally posted by CoRruPt-
                    Plus a lot of no-hitters are a cause of a good defense playing behind the pitcher and luck, which is out of the pitcher's control .
                    You don't have to tell that to Dave Stieb. That man was victimized by bad defense/luck at the most critical times. He could easily be a borerline HOF'er right now as he had at least 6 No-Hitters in him. Sadly, he only got one in his career.
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                    • snepp
                      We'll waste him too.
                      • Apr 2003
                      • 10007

                      #40
                      Re: What record goes down first?

                      Originally posted by imapotato
                      Yet no one has come close to 30 scoreless IP, much less 50
                      Incoming boredom....

                      John Lackey just had a 30 inning scoreless streak.

                      In 2004 two Twins had 30+ inning streaks. Santana at 33 and reliever JC Romero at 36 2/3.

                      In 1995 Kenny Rogers had a 39, and last year had a 31.

                      Reliever Gregg Olson had a 41 inning streak.

                      Fernando Valenzuela had a 40+ streak.

                      That's just a small taste, there are alot more out there 30+.

                      There have been something like 35 hitting streaks since 1900 greater than 30+ games.

                      ....boredom ends.
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