As a Yankee fan, I can honestly say it is time to trade ARod

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  • specialman1234
    Banned
    • Jan 2006
    • 78

    #1

    As a Yankee fan, I can honestly say it is time to trade ARod

    Listen, the guy is a great hitter when he is not getting booed. He is fantastic when the Yankees are up 10-1 in a laugher. And everyone loved him in Texas. But as soon as he comes to a pennant contender, he cannot hit, he cannot field, he cannot sacrifice runners over, all he does is strike out, hit into double-plays, and make errors. Obviously I am being hard on the guy, but as a Yankee fan, with the budget we have, we come to expect players making $25 million per year to produce and ARod does not. We have given him chances to prove himself and he simply does not have it in him. I like him as a player, but as a Yankee, he does not meet the criteria. Why do we have more confidence in Robinson Cano than Alex Rodriguez? Why do opposing pitchers intentionally walk Jason Giambi to get to ARod? As a fan, I can say, Cashman, it is time to start shopping him while his tag is still relatively high.

    We can probably get a Roy Oswalt or a Jake Peavy for him and Lord knows we need pitching with Randy Johnson about to go into geriatric status, Jaret Wright just sucking, Sidney Ponson being Sidney Ponson, and the bullpen being led by Scott Proctor. We try to get an Oswalt, go into the Vernon Wells stakes in the off-season, teach him how to play third (lol), or just keep what we have, because we are winning this pennant without any aid from ARod.

    I know a lot of you hate us Yankee fans for being so snotty and not realizing what we have when our team budget is almost double the next highest team, but honestly, if ANY of your teams had ARod, paying him what he makes, and him doing what he does, you would be complaining too. Put him in Colorado, he will hit 70 homers a year with the dry air and lack of clutch situations, then we can all forget about Barry Bonds. But as a Yankee, this guy simply is not a Yankee.
  • CMH
    Making you famous
    • Oct 2002
    • 26203

    #2
    Re: As a Yankee fan, I can honestly say it is time to trade ARod

    Ha, another laughable ARod post.

    I thought I would never see the day when 26 HR, 91 RBI, 87 Runs, .287/.390/.504 and a .894 OPS were not good.

    The guy won the MVP Award last year! But, he's not a good baseball player.

    Stop reading the Daily News, please.

    edit:

    ARod is the third best Yankee hitter this year. The two guys better than him (Jeter and Giambi) get paid more by the Yankees. So, if you want to use salary as a measure of performance then you've done a poor job.
    Last edited by CMH; 08-21-2006, 11:34 AM.
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    • Stu
      All Star
      • Jun 2004
      • 7924

      #3
      Re: As a Yankee fan, I can honestly say it is time to trade ARod

      Originally posted by specialman1234
      this guy simply is not a Yankee.
      My only question is, what exactly is a "Yankee" ?
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      • NYJets
        Hall Of Fame
        • Jul 2002
        • 18637

        #4
        Re: As a Yankee fan, I can honestly say it is time to trade ARod

        But as soon as he comes to a pennant contender, he cannot hit, he cannot field, he cannot sacrifice runners over, all he does is strike out, hit into double-plays, and make errors.
        So he couldn't hit or field last year when he won an MVP?

        He's having a down year for him, but still a very good year for most players.

        Why do we have more confidence in Robinson Cano than Alex Rodriguez?
        Because you listen to Sportscenter, WFAN, and other media instead of paying attention to what's going on.

        And Arod isn't going anywhere. He doesn't want to leave, the Yankees don't want to get rid of him because it would be stupid, and even if they did it would be hard to get rid of his contract while getting equal value in a trade.


        BTW, why bring this up now? Yankees just took 4 straight from the Red Sox, could make it 5 today, A-Rod has had a pretty good series with some big hits, and people are still complaining?
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        • CMH
          Making you famous
          • Oct 2002
          • 26203

          #5
          Re: As a Yankee fan, I can honestly say it is time to trade ARod

          Originally posted by camulos
          My only question is, what exactly is a "Yankee" ?
          You know, the guy that the media and a couple of loud-mouthed fans take as the perfect embodiment of wearing pinstripes.

          It's that guy that says little much of the time, but much a little of the time.

          He's a leader. The guy that gets up from the dugout first to give his teammates high fives.

          He has these intangibles that mean he's a superstar. He may not bat .300 or get on-base 40% of the time, but damnit, he's a nice guy and he looks like he plays hard even though he doesn't perform all the time.

          A Yankee is simply a Yankee. To ask for a full description would only insinuate your lack of knowledge of the subject matter. So, just keep your mouth shut and let these wagon-riding Yankee fans tell the world what a Yankee is without really telling us.
          "It may well be that we spectators, who are not divinely gifted as athletes, are the only ones able to truly see, articulate and animate the experience of the gift we are denied. And that those who receive and act out the gift of athletic genius must, perforce, be blind and dumb about it -- and not because blindness and dumbness are the price of the gift, but because they are its essence." - David Foster Wallace

          "You'll not find more penny-wise/pound-foolish behavior than in Major League Baseball." - Rob Neyer

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          • Kashanova
            Hall Of Fame
            • Aug 2003
            • 12695

            #6
            Re: As a Yankee fan, I can honestly say it is time to trade ARod

            Dude Getting rid of arod would be the dumbest move in the history of the yankees, And wats this about when he plays for a contender he disapears im pretty sure when seattle was contending arod was playing for them its been since 93 playing wit the mariners till like 00 or 01 and that team was contending if im not mistaken

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            • CMH
              Making you famous
              • Oct 2002
              • 26203

              #7
              Re: As a Yankee fan, I can honestly say it is time to trade ARod

              Originally posted by Kashanova
              Dude Getting rid of arod would be the dumbest move in the history of the yankees, And wats this about when he plays for a contender he disapears im pretty sure when seattle was contending arod was playing for them its been since 93 playing wit the mariners till like 00 or 01 and that team was contending if im not mistaken
              No, no, you don't understand.

              The Mariners play in Seattle. Which, by the way, is in the state of Washington. Washington happens to be in the West Coast.

              The sports media doesn't care about the West Coast. So, Alex wasn't playing in a pressure situation. He was just playing for another team in the West Coast.

              ...(ok, I feel like I'm getting dumber just by pretending to be)
              "It may well be that we spectators, who are not divinely gifted as athletes, are the only ones able to truly see, articulate and animate the experience of the gift we are denied. And that those who receive and act out the gift of athletic genius must, perforce, be blind and dumb about it -- and not because blindness and dumbness are the price of the gift, but because they are its essence." - David Foster Wallace

              "You'll not find more penny-wise/pound-foolish behavior than in Major League Baseball." - Rob Neyer

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              • SC3BBall
                MVP
                • Jul 2002
                • 2139

                #8
                Re: As a Yankee fan, I can honestly say it is time to trade ARod

                ARods series vs the Sox

                6-17 (.353), 5 RBI, 3 2B, 5 R, 5 BB, .500 OBP (11-22)

                and they won 4 straight

                ok...what are you complaining about

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                • GBrushTWood
                  Banned
                  • Mar 2003
                  • 1624

                  #9
                  Re: As a Yankee fan, I can honestly say it is time to trade ARod

                  I'm glad Rodriguez has a no-trade clause in his contract, because the Yankees would improve by replacing him with Roy Oswalt.

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                  • specialman1234
                    Banned
                    • Jan 2006
                    • 78

                    #10
                    Re: As a Yankee fan, I can honestly say it is time to trade ARod

                    Firstly, I live in NY, so quit with the wagon-riding comments.

                    Secondly, you guys are right, 25 homers and 91 RBI's along with a .287 average is not bad, but the stats are padded. You guys can say what you will, but the fact is, the guy is terrible in clutch situations. Yesterday, yes, we won. And what did ARod do? First inning, bases loaded, one out, double play. Eighth inning (maybe seventh), runner on third, 1 out, pop out. 10th inning, after the Giambi homer, strike out looking on 3 pitches. Yes, that is just one game, but this has been going on the entire season and from what I heard on the news today, after yesterday's game, when ARod came out of the locker room to get interviewed, another anonymous Yankee was quoted as saying, "Go over to ARod and hear today's excuse."

                    Forget the team leader nonsense because any Yankee fan knows that distinction is reserved for Jeter. Again, I know I'm being tough on the guy, but $25 million for this guy ($17 mill from the Yanks) is too much. Vernon Wells has a higher average, more homers, is a better fielder, and has more clutch potential and is making $4.47 million this year. Seeing as the Yankees overpay everyone, ARod is no more than a $10 million per year player.

                    And as a Yankee fan, I can truly say that Ortiz should've won the MVP last year. ARod is a great hitter, but you guys cannot deny that his stats are padded.

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                    • deeman11747
                      G-M*nnnn
                      • Feb 2003
                      • 3194

                      #11
                      Re: As a Yankee fan, I can honestly say it is time to trade ARod

                      I'm as hard on him as any Yankee fan on this board (I'm usualy pretty fair about it though) when the time is right... but posts like this just embarass the fanbase of this team.

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                      • CMH
                        Making you famous
                        • Oct 2002
                        • 26203

                        #12
                        Re: As a Yankee fan, I can honestly say it is time to trade ARod

                        How does one pad his stats?
                        "It may well be that we spectators, who are not divinely gifted as athletes, are the only ones able to truly see, articulate and animate the experience of the gift we are denied. And that those who receive and act out the gift of athletic genius must, perforce, be blind and dumb about it -- and not because blindness and dumbness are the price of the gift, but because they are its essence." - David Foster Wallace

                        "You'll not find more penny-wise/pound-foolish behavior than in Major League Baseball." - Rob Neyer

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                        • Chip Douglass
                          Hall Of Fame
                          • Dec 2005
                          • 12256

                          #13
                          Re: As a Yankee fan, I can honestly say it is time to trade ARod

                          Originally posted by specialman1234
                          Listen, the guy is a great hitter when he is not getting booed. He is fantastic when the Yankees are up 10-1 in a laugher. And everyone loved him in Texas. But as soon as he comes to a pennant contender, he cannot hit, he cannot field, he cannot sacrifice runners over, all he does is strike out, hit into double-plays, and make errors. Obviously I am being hard on the guy, but as a Yankee fan, with the budget we have, we come to expect players making $25 million per year to produce and ARod does not. We have given him chances to prove himself and he simply does not have it in him. I like him as a player, but as a Yankee, he does not meet the criteria. Why do we have more confidence in Robinson Cano than Alex Rodriguez? Why do opposing pitchers intentionally walk Jason Giambi to get to ARod? As a fan, I can say, Cashman, it is time to start shopping him while his tag is still relatively high.

                          We can probably get a Roy Oswalt or a Jake Peavy for him and Lord knows we need pitching with Randy Johnson about to go into geriatric status, Jaret Wright just sucking, Sidney Ponson being Sidney Ponson, and the bullpen being led by Scott Proctor. We try to get an Oswalt, go into the Vernon Wells stakes in the off-season, teach him how to play third (lol), or just keep what we have, because we are winning this pennant without any aid from ARod.

                          I know a lot of you hate us Yankee fans for being so snotty and not realizing what we have when our team budget is almost double the next highest team, but honestly, if ANY of your teams had ARod, paying him what he makes, and him doing what he does, you would be complaining too. Put him in Colorado, he will hit 70 homers a year with the dry air and lack of clutch situations, then we can all forget about Barry Bonds. But as a Yankee, this guy simply is not a Yankee.
                          What you wrote is spoiled. A-Rod won the MVP last year, and he's due to have a slight decrease in his stats this year. So I guess it's time to move on? If your not going to accept 35 HR's and 110 RBI's, then I'll take him.

                          I guess you just answered your just on what a "Yankee" is, a spoiled fan of a team that can buy any superstar on notice.
                          Last edited by Chip Douglass; 08-21-2006, 12:52 PM.
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                          • ehh
                            Hall Of Fame
                            • Mar 2003
                            • 28962

                            #14
                            Re: As a Yankee fan, I can honestly say it is time to trade ARod

                            And A-Rod grounds into a DP w. two men on and no one out.

                            Honestly, I'd prefer if we got rid of him as well.
                            Last edited by ehh; 08-21-2006, 12:56 PM. Reason: I butchered that one...
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                            • specialman1234
                              Banned
                              • Jan 2006
                              • 78

                              #15
                              Re: As a Yankee fan, I can honestly say it is time to trade ARod

                              Ya know, I wish some of you who had teams involved in pennant races did have him so you know what I was talking about. All you guys see is the numbers, but baseball is all about situational hitting, something that which ARod is terrible. Yes, he's going to hit 35 Homers and knock in 120 RBI's. And the last time he hit less than 40 homers was in '04, as a Yankee. Before that, you gotta go all the way back to '97, in which he hit 23 homers. My point is the guy is getting paid WAY too much money for what he's worth and everyone thinks he's awesome. His stock is still high, so take him off our hands, take his bloated salary, we'll take Oswalt or Wells' salary, and we'll see who's happier in October.

                              You can say what you will, but almost everyone I know in the NY City area agrees with me. Yes, we, as Yankee fans, are spoiled by the money our organization can dish out for top players. But when the highest paid player by far cannot come up with a clutch hit ever (or even a sacrifice fly), he shouldn't be the highest paid player. As I said, he is worth no more than $10 mill per year, and that is generous. There are at least 20 people in the league I'd pay higher than ARod. At least, meaning probably more.

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