As a Yankee fan, I can honestly say it is time to trade ARod

[Kelvarr]

Re: As a Yankee fan, I can honestly say it is time to trade ARod

Ya know, I wish some of you who had teams involved in pennant races did have him so you know what I was talking about. All you guys see is the numbers, but baseball is all about situational hitting, something that which ARod is terrible. Yes, he's going to hit 35 Homers and knock in 120 RBI's. And the last time he hit less than 40 homers was in '04, as a Yankee. Before that, you gotta go all the way back to '97, in which he hit 23 homers. My point is the guy is getting paid WAY too much money for what he's worth and everyone thinks he's awesome. His stock is still high, so take him off our hands, take his bloated salary, we'll take Oswalt or Wells' salary, and we'll see who's happier in October.

You can say what you will, but almost everyone I know in the NY City area agrees with me. Yes, we, as Yankee fans, are spoiled by the money our organization can dish out for top players. But when the highest paid player by far cannot come up with a clutch hit ever (or even a sacrifice fly), he shouldn't be the highest paid player. As I said, he is worth no more than $10 mill per year, and that is generous. There are at least 20 people in the league I'd pay higher than ARod. At least, meaning probably more.

Tell ya what....my team IS in a pennant race. I'll trade you Marcus Thames straight up for him. At least then you won't bitch about his salary and stats. Hell.....287/25/91...I'll take it any day of the week.

[cjonesfan921]

Re: As a Yankee fan, I can honestly say it is time to trade ARod

People I would take over ARod:

Roy Halladay
Vernon Wells
Johan Santana
Albert Pujols
Andruw Jones
Ryan Howard
Miguel Cabrera
David Ortiz
Manny Ramirez
Alfonso Soriano (shouldn't have traded in the first place)
Paul Konerko
Jim Thome
Travis Hafner
Vlad Guerrero
Nomar Garciaparra
Aramis Ramirez
Miguel Tejada
Carlos Beltran
Justin Morneau
Lance Berkman


I would take all 20 of those guys over ARod. Maybe 1 or 2 I'd second guess, but for the most part, this entire list is worth more than ARod.

Roy Halladay - No
Vernon Wells - No
Johan Santana - Yes
Albert Pujols - Yes
Andruw Jones - No
Ryan Howard - No
Miguel Cabrera - Maybe
David Ortiz - No
Manny Ramirez - No
Alfonso Soriano - No
Paul Konerko - No
Jim Thome - No
Travis Hafner - No
Vlad Guerrero - Possible
Nomar Garciaparra - No
Aramis Ramirez - No
Miguel Tejada - No
Carlos Beltran - No
Justin Morneau - No
Lance Berkman - No

[SPTO]

Re: As a Yankee fan, I can honestly say it is time to trade ARod

Why wouldn't you take Roy Halladay over Arod. Sure he doesn't have the Ks this year but he has become a pitcher. The man is one of the top 3 starting pitchers in all of baseball.

I'm almost positive he's going to win the Cy Young this year.

[AI_Franchise]

Re: As a Yankee fan, I can honestly say it is time to trade ARod

Trading arod? you guys are nuts if you think so.

[ehh]

Re: As a Yankee fan, I can honestly say it is time to trade ARod

ehh and specialman are an embarassment to all Yankee fans.

Elaborate.

[GBrushTWood]

Re: As a Yankee fan, I can honestly say it is time to trade ARod

I think that Rodriguez is going to cost the Yankees in the playoffs once again. I really do believe this. You can't just sweep his individual problems under the carpet with the hot streak they are currently on.
I'm telling you guys, he is the anti-clutch in every sense of the word. He brings teams down.

[ehh]

Re: As a Yankee fan, I can honestly say it is time to trade ARod

I'm telling you guys, he is the anti-clutch in every sense of the word. He brings teams down.

Not according to most Yankee fans. His "problems in the clutch" are just people overreacting according to them, cause "Gosh, he has the same post season BA as Derek Jeter."

[ryanm1058123]

Re: As a Yankee fan, I can honestly say it is time to trade ARod

A-Rod has not been good in the clutch this year.. that is for sure.. but to say he's not a clutch player is ********. He's gotten some big walks this year and he hit the BIGGEST HR OF THE YEAR (versus the Braves) that turned around the season And it's funny how the A-Rod haters sweep last year under the rug when he was the MVP. He had a bad stretch of games during the playoffs but that does not make him unclutch. Remember 2004 ALDS where he won it for us singlehandedly and remember the HR in Game 4 of the 2004 ALCS that would have been the Series winning RBI and catapulted him to possible series MVP if Mo saves the game.. yeah.. that is why Yankee fans are pathetic.

[ehh]

Re: As a Yankee fan, I can honestly say it is time to trade ARod

A-Rod has not been good in the clutch this year.. that is for sure.. but to say he's not a clutch player is ********. He's gotten some big walks this year and he hit the BIGGEST HR OF THE YEAR (versus the Braves) that turned around the season And it's funny how the A-Rod haters sweep last year under the rug when he was the MVP. He had a bad stretch of games during the playoffs but that does not make him unclutch. Remember 2004 ALDS where he won it for us singlehandedly and remember the HR in Game 4 of the 2004 ALCS that would have been the Series winning RBI and catapulted him to possible series MVP if Mo saves the game.. yeah.. that is why Yankee fans are pathetic.

I never said he wasn't a clutch player last year. He wasn't amazing in the clutch but he wasn't god awful either.

I'm talking about this year, and he's been baaaad this year. You essentially said it yourself, he hasn't done much this year cept that one HR against the Braves. Can't drive in a runner from 3rd w. less than two outs to save his life.

[GeePee20]

Re: As a Yankee fan, I can honestly say it is time to trade ARod

Being clutch is so overrated. I'll take a guy who consistently puts up huge numbers(granted he is having a down year this year) then some guy who puts up somewhat average numbers but is awesome in the clutch. You're going to win more games overall with a guy who puts up big numbers through an entire season.

[GBrushTWood]

Re: As a Yankee fan, I can honestly say it is time to trade ARod

I remember the 2005 ALDS vs. LAA. It was the top of the 9th in Game 5, and Jeter somehow reached. A-Rod came up with no outs, the game was on the line for the MVP here. Biggest at bat of the season. What does A-Rod do? GIDP. I don't think I've ever seen more of a predictable at bat in my life.

If anybody doesn't see this happening again sometime this October, you are nuts.

BTW, how is clutch overrated? I mean, you need big time hits in nut crunching situations in order to succeed as a team. A-Rod can't do this. He shrivels up into a ball and fails. It's not one time, it's many, many times which has developed into a pattern. As long as he is batting in an important spot in the lineup, he will hurt the team when they really need him.

[CMH]

Re: As a Yankee fan, I can honestly say it is time to trade ARod

Not according to most Yankee fans. His "problems in the clutch" are just people overreacting according to them, cause "Gosh, he has the same post season BA as Derek Jeter."

You should rephrase that.

Most Yankee fans either hate or feel indifferent about Alex Rodriguez. It's gotten to the point where only a few realize that he isn't a disaster.

[NYJets]

Re: As a Yankee fan, I can honestly say it is time to trade ARod

You should rephrase that.

Most Yankee fans either hate or feel indifferent about Alex Rodriguez. It's gotten to the point where only a few realize that he isn't a disaster.

Agreed.

A-Rod hasn't had a great year, it's been a down year for him. He's been inconsistent with the bat, and his defense has been about as bad as it gets. He deserves criticism for that. But people have taken it too far. It's gotten to the point where people are saying nothing he's done has helped the team. That all his numbers last year was just "padding his stats." It's gotten to the point where if the Yankees are losing 8-0, it's better for him to strikeout. If he hits a homerun, he'll be bashed. Every at bat is disected so much now. It's to the point that he might never change his reputation. If he gets up with the bases loaded and 2 outs in a close game 10 more times this year, and he gets a hit 6 of them, people are going to forget those and remember the 4 he doesn't get it done. Now people expect him to hit 1.000 in clutch spots.

[ryanm1058123]

Re: As a Yankee fan, I can honestly say it is time to trade ARod

Agreed.

A-Rod hasn't had a great year, it's been a down year for him. He's been inconsistent with the bat, and his defense has been about as bad as it gets. He deserves criticism for that. But people have taken it too far. It's gotten to the point where people are saying nothing he's done has helped the team. That all his numbers last year was just "padding his stats." It's gotten to the point where if the Yankees are losing 8-0, it's better for him to strikeout. If he hits a homerun, he'll be bashed. Every at bat is disected so much now. It's to the point that he might never change his reputation. If he gets up with the bases loaded and 2 outs in a close game 10 more times this year, and he gets a hit 6 of them, people are going to forget those and remember the 4 he doesn't get it done. Now people expect him to hit 1.000 in clutch spots.

I agree, and with that we can conclude that 95% of Yankee fans are idiots.

[CMH]

Re: As a Yankee fan, I can honestly say it is time to trade ARod

Agreed.

A-Rod hasn't had a great year, it's been a down year for him. He's been inconsistent with the bat, and his defense has been about as bad as it gets. He deserves criticism for that. But people have taken it too far. It's gotten to the point where people are saying nothing he's done has helped the team. That all his numbers last year was just "padding his stats." It's gotten to the point where if the Yankees are losing 8-0, it's better for him to strikeout. If he hits a homerun, he'll be bashed. Every at bat is disected so much now. It's to the point that he might never change his reputation. If he gets up with the bases loaded and 2 outs in a close game 10 more times this year, and he gets a hit 6 of them, people are going to forget those and remember the 4 he doesn't get it done. Now people expect him to hit 1.000 in clutch spots.

It is for those reasons, and those reasons only, that I can agree with people saying that the Yankees should trade Alex Rodriguez.

But, the reasons stem from Alex as a person rather than how the fans feel about him.

I would NEVER ever trade Alex Rodriguez, but I feel bad for him. He is expected to do so much for the Yankees it is incredible. No man should ever have to carry a team on his shoulders especially with a roster consisting of Jeter, Giambi, Cano, Abreau, Posada, and Sheffield and Matsui when they return.

Alex would definitely get more comfortable with another team. But, a greedy part of me does not want to see him anywhere else. Even if Alex only hit .280 with 30 HR and 120 RBI every year (down from his numbers, great compared to most MLers) I'd still want him on this team getting paid 16 million a year by the Yankees.

edit:

By the way, if Alex only hit 30 homeruns a year for the next 10 seasons (assuming he plays till about 40) he'd still be on pace to break Aaron's record...or Bonds when/if he passes it. Just thought I should bring that up.