"Unoiffical" salary cap

[Drew127]

Owners should get together and come up with some unofficial aliance, and all agree to just not pay players more than a certain amount. I know that would never work, because then you would have owners who would just go against it anyways to get the top name players. But in theory it makes sense.

The salaries in baseball are so out of hand, it's unexcuseable. Baseball is so messed up, a strike won't come close to fixing it. The only thing that can fix it is for greed to somehow not exist but that will never happen. I hate the world we live in, the current state of baseball is just a small scale example of how ****ty our world is.

[DragDashOn]

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yeah, i'm sure George would go for that

[ndeezlo]

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They already tried that, it's called collusion and if memory serves me right, they done get sued over that.

[CMH]

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They already tried that, it's called collusion and if memory serves me right, they done get sued over that.

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they can and were sued in the 80's for tryin somethin like that.

in fact, there is a possibility that the owners may be sued within the next month or so. Many players are complaining that several teams offered similar amounts in their arbitration cases leading them to believe that the owners collided on a monetary agreement.

I know someone is gonna say, "these guys are as rich as it is, and now they complain about stuff like this?"

the point is that they have a union. And no matter how much money they make, they are still human beings and deserve respect in the work place. Their salaries are based on supply and demand. So I have no complaint with what a player makes.

Owners should be more respectful of their employees. Collision is illegal in the United States, no matter the field, industry, or position.

[LetsGoPitt]

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They already tried that, it's called collusion and if memory serves me right, they done get sued over that.

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they can and were sued in the 80's for tryin somethin like that.

in fact, there is a possibility that the owners may be sued within the next month or so. Many players are complaining that several teams offered similar amounts in their arbitration cases leading them to believe that the owners collided on a monetary agreement.

I know someone is gonna say, "these guys are as rich as it is, and now they complain about stuff like this?"

the point is that they have a union. And no matter how much money they make, they are still human beings and deserve respect in the work place. Their salaries are based on supply and demand. So I have no complaint with what a player makes.

Owners should be more respectful of their employees. Collision is illegal in the United States, no matter the field, industry, or position.

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This coming from a fan whose team has more money than God.

As much as people like to put all the blame on owners like George for the current situation, I don't think that's quite fair. Yes, owners like Steinbrenner have ruined baseball for smaller-market teams, but a lot of the blame needs to be placed on the Players Union. Here's a group that effectively says things like "how can you possibly expect a player to only make $5 mil?" Look at arbitration (and no one can claim this was the owners' idea). How can anyone justify giving a guy whose career record is something like 25-54 with an ERA over 5.00 and 2 more Ks than walks a multi-million dollar contract simply because he's a lefty? (what'll likely happen with Jimmy "Michelin Man" Anderson).

The simple fact that players would sue the owners over them wanting to restrict their salaries is ludicrous, considering that the league minimum is more money than the majority of the country makes (and why most people have no sympathy for the "poor struggling baseball player who only makes $900,000 a year")

[CMH]

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The simple fact that players would sue the owners over them wanting to restrict their salaries is ludicrous, considering that the league minimum is more money than the majority of the country makes (and why most people have no sympathy for the "poor struggling baseball player who only makes $900,000 a year")

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why is it ludicrous? Because fans go to games, pay for tickets, buy merchandise, and pay to watch games on the internet, therefore giving the owners more money?

You act is if you may not be an employee someday, if you already aren't, who wouldnt be upset if your company just made 100's of millions of dollars and didnt raise salaries. You act as if, by chance you made the company 10 million dollars a year, you didn't deserve some of it back.

Without the players, the owners make no money. The players are basically asking for what they believe is partly theirs. Yea, you may be right if you say that no other employee could just walk into someone's office and demand a raise, but the union in baseball is strong basically because the owners let it become strong. That's their mess to deal with.

People need to stop seperating a baseball union from a teacher's union. THERE ARE NO DIFFERENCES. They are all employees who deserve a percentage of what they bring in. Do teachers help schools make 10 million a year? NO. so a teacher can't be paid 10 million a year. Does Jason Giambi help the Yankees make 10 million a year? Yes, and probably more. SO he deserves the 18 million he's gettin paid.

It's SUPPLY AND DEMAND. If the supply is there, then it can be demanded. Teachers can't make 10 million a year b/c the supply isn't there. Players can make 2 million a year, on average, b/c the supply is there to cover the costs.

Would you rather your owner just eat the money? Oh, I guess you do. Because its apparent that every Yankee ***** likes the fact that their owners don't want to throw cash to improve their teams.

SURPRISE, SURPRISE, Georgy isn't even the riches owner in baseball. Yet he has the highest payroll because he cares about his team and the fans and he knows the team is HIS and his responsibility. So he does for it, what he can.

Then I hear people supporting Minnesota Twin ownership for raising such class-act guys when Carl Pohlad pockets all the revenue he makes every year. That's the real reason the Twins have a ridiculously low payroll.

The biggest mistake baseball made was NOT making sure that the revenue sharing and luxury tax (the Yanks will be paying in HUGE SUMS) WILL BE USED by the teams.

How soon we forget that as soon as Pohlad sees a nice check for 10 million dollars in revenue sharing, he'll stuff it in his pocket instead of signing a few key players with the cash.

You tell me now who's doin wrong.

I still can't believe that fans give in to what ESPN and other sport stations, papers, and magazines tell us. The players are not doin the wrong. its the owners. Open your eyes.

EDIT: wanted to add. The players are suing the owners for tryin to restrict their salaries because they can. IT'S ILLEGAL IN THE UNITED STATES TO COLLIDE. If school district managers across the New York State area decided to agree on now payin a new teacher any more than $15,000 a year, don't you think you'd be pissed off too? Especially if you know that is illegal and well below the MARKET VALUE. Look it up.

[LetsGoPitt]

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The problem with your statement is that it isn't necessarily the case everywhere. I don't care if George is or isn't the richest owner in baseball. I care that he shells out the most money because A) he can and B) there is nothing to stand in his way for doing so. Those owners who are richer than he is and not spending the money are idiots. George is smart: he is using the system to his advantage. Yay for George.

Unforunately, this isn't the case all the time. A lot of teams don't have that sort of money and therefore cannot compete as well. This is why the system needs fixed. And not just because it will level the playing field, but also because if nothing is done, chances are we'll be down to an 8-team league before too long, simply because too many teams will have folded.

[CMH]

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Unforunately, this isn't the case all the time. A lot of teams don't have that sort of money and therefore cannot compete as well. This is why the system needs fixed. And not just because it will level the playing field, but also because if nothing is done, chances are we'll be down to an 8-team league before too long, simply because too many teams will have folded.



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I agree. You are right. Not every team has the finances to spend the money George does.

My issue is that people continue to ONLY blame George for baseball's problems. They fail to look at the owners who have the money to compete and don't.

Now we have a cap for teams that put revenue back into the team. I mean really, stop and think for a second about that. Does that really seem fair? Does it? I make money from a company, I put that money back into the company to improve it, and I get taxed for doin so?

I understand that George's spending is superior to other teams, but a tax is not gonna do anything to stop this. All they are sayin is that George CAN spend 120 million. That's fine. But they haven't said if a team MUST spend their revenue sharing check.

A lot has to be done about baseball and it's finances. Even though i'm a Yankee fan, I don't necessarily agree with George's spending. THe last time he went crazy like this, the Yankees were out of the playoffs for about 15 years. So trust me, I'm not crazy about all this either.