Bochy to the Giants

[bkrich83]

Re: Bochy to the Giants

First **** the giants, bochy is a traitor for going there and we shall see how well he does there. It's Sandy Aldersons policy to let his employees test the waters to see if the grass is greener, apparently bochy thinks it might be, so he's going somewhere else. If you want to talk about loyalty, where is bochey's loyalty to the Padres?

You're kidding right. Padres have 5 Division Titles and Bochy has managed 4 of those teams. He's stuck it out through the fire sale. He's the only manager in our history to lead the team to back to back playoff appearances, and you don't even give him a sniff of an extension, and Bochy is disloyal, and a traitor?

Put the crack pipe down.

[Kelverin]

Re: Bochy to the Giants

You're kidding right. Padres have 5 Division Titles and Bochy has managed 4 of those teams. He's stuck it out through the fire sale. He's the only manager in our history to lead the team to back to back playoff appearances, and you don't even give him a sniff of an extension, and Bochy is disloyal, and a traitor?

Put the crack pipe down.

Serious as hell. I am tired of the Padres being swept out of the playoffs, which apparently Bochy coached teams excel at.
Yes he is disloyal, unless when Sandy Alderson said "We will be happy to have Bruce back for next season, however if he wants to explore other opportunities I will not stand in the way. I want my employees to be here because they want to be here." He was lying through his teeth.

We are not talking about the greatest manager ever.
Talk about the fire sale, management not willing to spend money on talent.......
The bottom line
0 World championships
Out of 4 post seasons 3 have ended in the Padres being swept out of the playoffs
Regular season Winning percentage - .494
Post season record - 8 - 16 .333

Winners win and win it all. **** second place.

[rsox]

Re: Bochy to the Giants

I think a better question would be if you are the Giants why would you hire Bochy?.

Yes the Padres have won the NL West the last two seasons and yes they have made the playoffs 4 times in Bochy's 12 seasons with the team but the Bochy era has been either feast or famine for the Padres. The Padres have finished with a losing record in 7 of the 12 seasons under Bochy and when they have reached the postseason they have been early exits 3 out of 4 times.

Bochy leaves San Diego for a Giants team with 9 potential free agents, a list that includes Barry Bonds and the Giants are in desperate need of a roster overhaul. Perhaps they want Bochy to help rebuild but i still don't really see how the Giants are better for this hiring than say Bud Black or Bench Coach Ron Wotus.

[bkrich83]

Re: Bochy to the Giants

Serious as hell. I am tired of the Padres being swept out of the playoffs, which apparently Bochy coached teams excel at.
Yes he is disloyal, unless when Sandy Alderson said "We will be happy to have Bruce back for next season, however if he wants to explore other opportunities I will not stand in the way. I want my employees to be here because they want to be here." He was lying through his teeth.

We are not talking about the greatest manager ever.
Talk about the fire sale, management not willing to spend money on talent.......
The bottom line
0 World championships
Out of 4 post seasons 3 have ended in the Padres being swept out of the playoffs
Regular season Winning percentage - .494
Post season record - 8 - 16 .333

Winners win and win it all. **** second place.

LOL. You have got to be kidding. You think Alderson wanted him back.

Exactly how was Boch disloyal again.

As far as winners win, losser lose. The whole franchise has a losing tradition. They don't care about winning. You don't have to look any further than their current roster, and their transaction history post 1998.

[Chip Douglass]

Re: Bochy to the Giants

0 World championships

Like you were expecting the Padres to ever win one?

Bochy did the best he could considering the little talent his front office supplied him.

[Kelverin]

Re: Bochy to the Giants

LOL. You have got to be kidding. You think Alderson wanted him back.

I can only take a man at his word and I heard him on 1090 say he wanted him back. If they wanted him back (bochy) and he went to the giants; seems disloyal to me.

[BatsareBugs]

Re: Bochy to the Giants

Yes he is disloyal, unless when Sandy Alderson said "We will be happy to have Bruce back for next season, however if he wants to explore other opportunities I will not stand in the way. I want my employees to be here because they want to be here." He was lying through his teeth.

We are not talking about the greatest manager ever.
Talk about the fire sale, management not willing to spend money on talent.......
The bottom line
0 World championships
Out of 4 post seasons 3 have ended in the Padres being swept out of the playoffs
Regular season Winning percentage - .494
Post season record - 8 - 16 .333

Winners win and win it all. **** second place.

What makes you think the Padres wanted him when they didn't even give him a counter offer? Sure Sandy could be making it so that it was Bochy's decision, but eventually with this moneyball philosophy coming into effect, Sandy wants a manager HE knows.

BTW, Alderson said the Padres would be happy if Bochy came back... not himself personally. They did the same with KT last season. And lastly at the bolded part, Bochy was never Alderson's type of employee. He only signed that extension just to appease fans in his first season. Trickery I tell you.

[BatsareBugs]

Re: Bochy to the Giants

I can only take a man at his word and I heard him on 1090 say he wanted him back. If they wanted him back (bochy) and he went to the giants; seems disloyal to me.

It's pure business. For example, why don't we put you in this situation. You've been working your *** off for a company, getting paid decent. However the company feels that they you're expendable and they can get someone else to do your work at a much cheaper price. They let you explore opportunities and a different company comes in with a very enticing deal, a confirmed salary that pays more than the original company and more job security because they've liked what you have done.

Common sense has it that you take the best opportunity available to you.

Get over the Bochy-Giants thing. It's not like the Padres did anything in a way other than saying "we'd be happy if he stays" instead of actually putting an acute effort.

[bkrich83]

Re: Bochy to the Giants

I can only take a man at his word and I heard him on 1090 say he wanted him back. If they wanted him back (bochy) and he went to the giants; seems disloyal to me.

If Alderson wanted him back so bad, then why wasn't he offered an extension.
Considering all he's been through with the Padres, he receives no extension offer, and he's the one who's disloyal?

That kool-aide must be good.