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  • Sancheezy
    Pro
    • Jun 2003
    • 498

    #16
    Re: Meche to KC

    It's the Royals, sometimes you have to overpay into to breathe some life into a ballclub. Id rather pay a 28 year old pitcher then for them to have given it to an aging fielder, like the did when then brought in Benito Santiago and Juan "noshow" Gonzalez
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    • Chaos81
      Hall Of Fame
      • Mar 2004
      • 17150

      #17
      Re: Meche to KC

      Originally posted by SPTO
      Where the heck did the Royals (of all teams) get this kind of money from?
      They've always had it, they just haven't spent it.

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      • dieselboy
        --------------
        • Dec 2002
        • 18040

        #18
        Re: Meche to KC

        Thank god Seattle didn't resign him for that much.

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        • Coug00
          LOB
          • Jul 2002
          • 3476

          #19
          Re: Meche to KC

          Originally posted by mjb2124
          Wow. I can't believe they're going to give Meche 55-60 Million.
          Having watched Meche for the past 6 or so years the Royals just made a BAD, BAD deal for that much money. You don't spend that kind of money on a #4 pitcher, even during this offseason.

          I was sure he'd be the next dominant pitcher in baseball during the first half of 2003, but he ran into arm problems causing him to lose some velocity & control and it turned him into a basket case on the mound.

          He's as frustrating as it gets to watch. Its almost like clockwork for him to get through unscathed early in the game, then once he gets through the order a couple times he implodes right before your eyes giving up a monster inning. Its almost as if he becomes afraid to attack hitters midway through the game and pitches himself behind in nearly every count.
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          • Vince
            Bow for Bau
            • Aug 2002
            • 26017

            #20
            Re: Meche to KC

            Originally posted by Sancheezy
            It's the Royals, sometimes you have to overpay into to breathe some life into a ballclub. Id rather pay a 28 year old pitcher then for them to have given it to an aging fielder, like the did when then brought in Benito Santiago and Juan "noshow" Gonzalez
            Yeah, because with Meche, KC are legit contenders...ha!
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            • Sancheezy
              Pro
              • Jun 2003
              • 498

              #21
              Re: Meche to KC

              im not saying that this makes them a contender, not in the long run. But look the Royals lost 33 games in which the lead at one point. If you can get a reliable starter that cant hurt.
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              • Chaos81
                Hall Of Fame
                • Mar 2004
                • 17150

                #22
                Re: Meche to KC

                Originally posted by Vince
                Yeah, because with Meche, KC are legit contenders...ha!
                Please show me where someone said that this signing made KC contenders?

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                • Seymour Scagnetti
                  Banned
                  • Oct 2006
                  • 2489

                  #23
                  Re: Meche to KC

                  Originally posted by SPTO
                  Oh I don't agree on the dollars but JP gambled on getting Meche or Lilly at the Winter Meetings. We lost out on BOTH. This puts the Jays in a precarious situation where they're going to have to look at trades to get an inning eater because Josh Towers can't cut it as a 5th Sterter.

                  If Towers is the 5th Starter at the beginning of the year then the Jays have ZERO chance at the playoffs.

                  The Jays have zero chance at the playoffs because J.P. has not developed any pitchers who can contribute as a starter. So we're stuck with trying to overpay average pitchers with 4.85 ERA's every winter or give up the farm to trade for a pitcher. The guy's been here 6 years and there hasn't been 1 starter he can claim to have drafted and brought up. That's why we're doomed, the Red Sox at least have Papelbon and the Yanks Wang in that time.

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                  • Gary Armida
                    MVP
                    • Oct 2003
                    • 2533

                    #24
                    Re: Meche to KC

                    I'm like a broken record this offseason--There can be zero small market poverty cries now. The smallest of smallmarket KC Royals give Gil Meche 55 million? I like Meche, I mean he helped me win my fantasy baseball league title a few years ago, but come on. These teams have no thought as to where they are driving the market up to again.

                    BTW--SPTO--The Jays are much better off anyway. Meche and Lilly aren't worth half the contracts they got. Towers, if he comes back to his normal crappy form, can win you 10 games. Even if not, Vernon Wells (who I love) to the Dodgers for Brad Penny and Matt Kemp would be great, wouldn't it?
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                    • elicoleman
                      Im The Baby/Gotta Love Me
                      • Sep 2002
                      • 34655

                      #25
                      Re: Meche to KC

                      Unbelievable.
                      Originally posted by CardsFan27
                      This is the 3rd time John Calipari has been to his first Final Four!
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                      • theaub
                        Stop! Homer Time!
                        • Feb 2004
                        • 9643

                        #26
                        Re: Meche to KC

                        I'm perfectly comfortable with Marcum/Towers at the back of the rotation. However, if we have to trade Vernon Wells, I'm not against that either.
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                        • SPTO
                          binging
                          • Feb 2003
                          • 68046

                          #27
                          Re: Meche to KC

                          Originally posted by Seymour Scagnetti
                          The Jays have zero chance at the playoffs because J.P. has not developed any pitchers who can contribute as a starter. So we're stuck with trying to overpay average pitchers with 4.85 ERA's every winter or give up the farm to trade for a pitcher. The guy's been here 6 years and there hasn't been 1 starter he can claim to have drafted and brought up. That's why we're doomed, the Red Sox at least have Papelbon and the Yanks Wang in that time.
                          Marcum and McGowan have pretty good upsides to them right now.

                          As for trading Wells I'm all for it because it doesn't seem he will give the Jays the "home team" discount.
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                          • BatsareBugs
                            LVP
                            • Feb 2003
                            • 12553

                            #28
                            Re: Meche to KC

                            Way too much for a guy who's done nothing for his career.

                            The Maddux signing is looking really good right now. Contracts like these are what I want the Padres to avoid especially since 1) the market is ridiculous. 2) for such mediocre players if they don't produce that's deadweight money, which the Padres had for three years+ 3) it's not worth signing anyone to this amount when it's better to keep Peavy at the bargain he signed his contract extension for.

                            And to think I wanted this guy on the Padres. I'm sorry, but I'd rather take Greg Maddux despite his age at a two year deal than Gil Meche for five years.

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                            • DrJones
                              All Star
                              • Mar 2003
                              • 9109

                              #29
                              Re: Meche to KC

                              Shades of Mike Hampton to the Rockies. Horrific deal.

                              There's a reason why some low-payroll teams can compete (A's, Twins) and some can't (Royals, Pirates). It's called competence.
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                              • Coug00
                                LOB
                                • Jul 2002
                                • 3476

                                #30
                                Re: Meche to KC

                                Originally posted by DrJones
                                Shades of Mike Hampton to the Rockies. Horrific deal.

                                There's a reason why some low-payroll teams can compete (A's, Twins) and some can't (Royals, Pirates). It's called competence.
                                What hasn't been mentioned to make this deal even worse for KC is that Seattle offered Meche arbitration, so now KC gives their 2nd round draft pick to Seattle. Brutal signing.
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