Griffey breaks left hand

[Blzer]

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What are you talking about? What does breaking his hand in December have to do with playing baseball in 2007? I agree that Jr. isn't durable, and also isn't very good anymore, but missing 6 weeks in December/January for a broken hand isn't a big deal.

Not to mention he is normally more injury-prone in his leg muscles, and this is completely independent of a leg muscle strain or tear.

[jpup]

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You seem to forget just how much Junior's injuries tend to linger. The name "Ken Griffey Jr." and "speedy recovery" are pretty much polar opposites at this point. I wouldn't be surprised if come August, his hand isn't the reason he shuts things down again.

I haven't forgot anything. It's amazing how long an injury takes to recover from when you don't use steroids.

[jake44np]

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First off them me say I live in Cincy and am a huge Griffey fan.
With that said, Griffey is paying the price for being lazy his whole life. Many of his team mates have long said that he would pay for never working out and not taking care of his body when he was younger.
As far as his injuries lingering he missed the last 3rd of the season with a stubbed big toe!!! I really would really like to know what what happened to the Reds if the Griffey trade would have never been made.
Right before the trade they where a team on the rise and they should have never made the trade. He eats way too much of their payroll and has missed way too much time do to injury!

[jpup]

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First off them me say I live in Cincy and am a huge Griffey fan.
With that said, Griffey is paying the price for being lazy his whole life. Many of his team mates have long said that he would pay for never working out and not taking care of his body when he was younger.
As far as his injuries lingering he missed the last 3rd of the season with a stubbed big toe!!! I really would really like to know what what happened to the Reds if the Griffey trade would have never been made.
Right before the trade they where a team on the rise and they should have never made the trade. He eats way too much of their payroll and has missed way too much time do to injury!

Griffey is always the first one to the park everyday taking BP. I guess that's lazy. You know as well as I do that he didn't missing games because of a "stubbed" toe. Do you watch the games? You sound like one of the guys that booed Jr. when he got hurt, like it was his fault. It also wasn't the last 1/3 of the season.

[jake44np]

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Griffey is always the first one to the park everyday taking BP. I guess that's lazy. You know as well as I do that he didn't missing games because of a "stubbed" toe. Do you watch the games? You sound like one of the guys that booed Jr. when he got hurt, like it was his fault. It also wasn't the last 1/3 of the season.

And you sould like one of the guys that always stick up for a washed up, always hurnt, cap hogging, has been.
And yes I watch almost every game on fox sports and I go to about 40 games a year.(Works luxary box)
If you dont think Griffeys huge salary for a part time player isnt killing the Reds you need to take your blinders off!

[jpup]

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And you sould like one of the guys that always stick up for a washed up, always hurnt, cap hogging, has been.
And yes I watch almost every game on fox sports and I go to about 40 games a year.(Works luxary box)
If you dont think Griffeys huge salary for a part time player isnt killing the Reds you need to take your blinders off!

What's killing the Reds is their inability to improve their team. The Reds are flush with cash just like every other team. Jr.'s salary isn't hurting them at all. I agree that Jr. is not anything close to what he once was, but for someone to say that he is lazy or doesn't work hard is BS, pure and simple. I follow the Reds closer than anything else that I do and time after time, fellow players and management talk about how hard Jr. works.

Until Bob Castellini decides to make good on his word and "win now" and Krivsky learns to maximize his value with the limited chips he has, they are going to be horrible. Jr.'s will be gone after '08, let's see what the Reds do with that money. There was certainly nothing worth the dollars that was acquired in this offseason.

Give me a source that says Jr. is lazy. Go ahead.

[jake44np]

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What's killing the Reds is their inability to improve their team. The Reds are flush with cash just like every other team. Jr.'s salary isn't hurting them at all. I agree that Jr. is not anything close to what he once was, but for someone to say that he is lazy or doesn't work hard is BS, pure and simple. I follow the Reds closer than anything else that I do and time after time, fellow players and management talk about how hard Jr. works.

Until Bob Castellini decides to make good on his word and "win now" and Krivsky learns to maximize his value with the limited chips he has, they are going to be horrible. Jr.'s will be gone after '08, let's see what the Reds do with that money. There was certainly nothing worth the dollars that was acquired in this offseason.

Give me a source that says Jr. is lazy. Go ahead.

Well just the other day on ESPN they mentioned that both AROD (his ex team mate) and Barry Bonds (one of his close personal friends) have been saying for years that when Griffey was younger he took terrible care of his body.
AROD said it use to kill him that while the rest of the team worked out Griff would just "chill" in the clubhouse. The same story said that Bonds warned Griffey for years that his unwillingness to work out and eat right would come back to haunt him once he turned 30.
I am not saying he does not work hard now far as BP and what not, I am saying when he was younger he got by on talent alone. Now that he is older he can not!

[jpup]

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Well just the other day on ESPN they mentioned that both AROD (his ex team mate) and Barry Bonds (one of his close personal friends) have been saying for years that when Griffey was younger he took terrible care of his body.
AROD said it use to kill him that while the rest of the team worked out Griff would just "chill" in the clubhouse. The same story said that Bonds warned Griffey for years that his unwillingness to work out and eat right would come back to haunt him once he turned 30.
I am not saying he does not work hard now far as BP and what not, I am saying when he was younger he got by on talent alone. Now that he is older he can not!

well then, that settles it. If ESPN said it, it must be true.

He had his hammy ripped completely from the bone and he came back, but he probably didn't have to work too hard. c'mon. quit spewing nonsense if you can't back it up.

[jake44np]

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well then, that settles it. If ESPN said it, it must be true.

He had his hammy ripped completely from the bone and he came back, but he probably didn't have to work too hard. c'mon. quit spewing nonsense if you can't back it up.

So you dont think that Griffey not taking care of himself when you was younger is affecting how he has been injured for ther last few years?

[AI_Franchise]

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Well just the other day on ESPN they mentioned that both AROD (his ex team mate) and Barry Bonds (one of his close personal friends) have been saying for years that when Griffey was younger he took terrible care of his body.
AROD said it use to kill him that while the rest of the team worked out Griff would just "chill" in the clubhouse. The same story said that Bonds warned Griffey for years that his unwillingness to work out and eat right would come back to haunt him once he turned 30.
I am not saying he does not work hard now far as BP and what not, I am saying when he was younger he got by on talent alone. Now that he is older he can not!

That's kinda good to hear. This would would put those of suspecting steroids rumors to bed, which I just never was able to see it. Just like with Arod. Griffey was the man back in his days. Too bad he kicked the Yankees' butts.

[jpup]

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So you dont think that Griffey not taking care of himself when you was younger is affecting how he has been injured for ther last few years?

I think that Jr.'s style of play has everything to do with why he gets injured. That's why he got hurt more times that not. Even last year, he was going up the wall to make a play. I have no evidence of Jr. not taking care of himself.

[SlimKibbles]

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I've heard things for a while of him not working hard in the offseason. There might be something to that. During the season is a different story. But, jpup, I agree with you that in that his style of play is what gets him injured. I've been a big fan of Junior's for a long time and I remember how excited I was when there were just rumors of him being traded. It's a shame he hasn't had good luck since coming home. I really don't think his salary is what is hurting this team. I like Krivsky a lot better than Dan-O but I'm not sure he's getting max value for players either, like you mention, jpup.