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  • BaseballCtchr
    MVP
    • Nov 2003
    • 1306

    #1

    Did Hall voter do the right thing?

    As most have heard baseball HOF voter Paul Ladewski submitted a blank ballot. I ask you this question did he do the right thing? You may have had to listen to Mike and Mike to hear Ladewski's opinion on Gwynn and Ripken attempting to become first ever unanimous selections. I get out and see what you guys think.
  • SPTO
    binging
    • Feb 2003
    • 68046

    #2
    Re: Did Hall voter do the right thing?

    What he say about Gwynn and Ripken?

    Personally I think that's a good form of protest but I like what this one guy from the Oakland area did (I forget his name) he basically resigned from the BBWAA and will no longer vote for the HOF.

    Now THAT would send a stronger message to MLB to clean up its act in regard to the Steroids era. There should be some kind of guideline IMO.
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    "Baseball is the most important thing that doesn't matter at all" - Robert B. Parker

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    • aukevin
      War Eagle, Go Braves!
      • Dec 2002
      • 14700

      #3
      Re: Did Hall voter do the right thing?

      I don't get why he doesn't just give some votes to some older guys on the ballet trying to get in instead of just leaving the whole thing blank.

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      • BGarrett7
        All Star
        • Jul 2003
        • 5890

        #4
        Re: Did Hall voter do the right thing?

        Just some loser trying to make the voting all about himself instead of about what it should be -- honoring the careers of baseball immortals like Ripken and Gwynn. Olbermann was talking about this yesterday on The Big Show, there's always gotta be somebody who thinks they are above the voting process and takes it upon themself to not vote for someone because "no one should be unanimous" and by doing so, it gives the writer his fifteen minutes of fame. It's obviously already working for this guy if he was on Mike & Mike this morning. I wouldn't be surprised if he shows up on The Herd and Dan's show today, and probably even SportsCenter and Outside the Lines tonight.

        It's your job as a member of the BBWAA to vote for who is most worthy on the ballot to get into the Hall of Fame, making it your own personal soapbox and not doing so is just childish. If you're going to turn in a blank ballot with the likes of Ripken and Gwynn on it, then you should simply do like the writer SPTO mentioned and resign from the BBWAA.

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        • rubisco43
          All Star
          • Feb 2003
          • 4372

          #5
          Re: Did Hall voter do the right thing?

          It's simple... he's a giant douchebag.
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          • Gary Armida
            MVP
            • Oct 2003
            • 2533

            #6
            Re: Did Hall voter do the right thing?

            I like the idea but question the guy's sincerity for his stance/stand. There just seems to be zero answer for this. How do we know what people got away with? I probably would just have a seperate wing for the plaques from this era. Vote whoever had the numbers in but designate them into this "era" room. It's a shame b/c you would hope Ripken and Gwynn are the good guys, but, again, how do we know?
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            • Stu
              All Star
              • Jun 2004
              • 7924

              #7
              Re: Did Hall voter do the right thing?

              The guy should have his voting rights revoked, plain and simple. I'm sick of baseball writers thinking they are the moral judges on MLB. Stop trying to make yourself bigger than the game and do your job.
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              • BGarrett7
                All Star
                • Jul 2003
                • 5890

                #8
                Re: Did Hall voter do the right thing?

                A quote from this jackass...

                "What makes Gwynn and Ripken so special that they deserve to be unanimous selections? Walter Johnson, Cy Young and Honus Wagner didn't receive such Hall passes. Neither did Lou Gehrig, Babe Ruth and Ted Williams. In fact, nobody has in the history of the game. Based on the standards set by the Hall of Fame voters decades ago, is there a neutral observer out there who can honestly say Gwynn and Ripken should be afforded an unprecedented honor?"

                A better question would be, who chose you as the ruler of the baseball world who gets to decide who does, or doesn't, get voted into the HOF unanimously?

                As history shows, there would be at least a few voters who chose not to put Gwynn or Ripken on their ballot. They wouldn't have gotten 100% of the vote regardless of what Ladewski did. But, this moron chose to make himself somehow bigger than the voting process and made it so all the attention was drawn to him.

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                • Skerik
                  Living in this tube
                  • Mar 2004
                  • 5215

                  #9
                  Re: Did Hall voter do the right thing?

                  Originally posted by camulos
                  The guy should have his voting rights revoked, plain and simple. I'm sick of baseball writers thinking they are the moral judges on MLB. Stop trying to make yourself bigger than the game and do your job.
                  Co-sign. The BBWAA is full of self-important blowhards like Bill Conlin who regard themselves as divine arbiters and sacred guardians of the game. Much like MLB umpires, their job is to perform a function and not be noticed. This guy's just grasping for his 15 minutes of fame.
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                  Dash: [muttering] Which is another way of saying no one is.

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                  • MassNole
                    Banned
                    • Mar 2006
                    • 18848

                    #10
                    Re: Did Hall voter do the right thing?

                    Seriously, the HOF needs to seriously revamp a lot of procedures in the voting process. I am sure the HOF founder is rolling in his grave. (He is a relative)
                    Last edited by MassNole; 01-09-2007, 11:49 AM.

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                    • Stu
                      All Star
                      • Jun 2004
                      • 7924

                      #11
                      Re: Did Hall voter do the right thing?

                      The stupidest thing about this is by submitting an empty ballot, he's hurting the chances for guys like Jim Rice and Goose Gossage who didn't play in the "Steroids Era"
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                      • Alliball
                        MVP
                        • Aug 2004
                        • 2368

                        #12
                        Re: Did Hall voter do the right thing?

                        Originally posted by favre4vr
                        I like the idea but question the guy's sincerity for his stance/stand. There just seems to be zero answer for this. How do we know what people got away with? I probably would just have a seperate wing for the plaques from this era. Vote whoever had the numbers in but designate them into this "era" room. It's a shame b/c you would hope Ripken and Gwynn are the good guys, but, again, how do we know?
                        I see what you're trying to get at, but come on. Gwynn and steroids just don't mix. Did you see the guy his last 10 years in the league? Unless he was sticking the needle into his belly, I'm just not seeing it.

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                        • SPTO
                          binging
                          • Feb 2003
                          • 68046

                          #13
                          Re: Did Hall voter do the right thing?

                          Originally posted by BGarrett7

                          "What makes Gwynn and Ripken so special that they deserve to be unanimous selections? Walter Johnson, Cy Young and Honus Wagner didn't receive such Hall passes. Neither did Lou Gehrig, Babe Ruth and Ted Williams. In fact, nobody has in the history of the game. Based on the standards set by the Hall of Fame voters decades ago, is there a neutral observer out there who can honestly say Gwynn and Ripken should be afforded an unprecedented honor?"
                          This guy is off his rocker... First of all he's making the assumption that Gywnn and Ripken will be unanimous selections when we all know from human nature that that probably won't happen. Even if it did happen i'd be happy for those two as they exemplified everything great about the game.

                          Oh, and I guess this voter oh so conveniently forgot that Nolan Ryan was like 2% shy of getting a unanimous vote.
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                          "Baseball is the most important thing that doesn't matter at all" - Robert B. Parker

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                          • sroz39
                            The Man!
                            • Apr 2006
                            • 2802

                            #14
                            Re: Did Hall voter do the right thing?

                            Originally posted by SPTO
                            This guy is off his rocker... First of all he's making the assumption that Gywnn and Ripken will be unanimous selections when we all know from human nature that that probably won't happen. Even if it did happen i'd be happy for those two as they exemplified everything great about the game.

                            Oh, and I guess this voter oh so conveniently forgot that Nolan Ryan was like 2% shy of getting a unanimous vote.
                            Exactly. Two class acts that also happened to be tremendous ball-players. If anything, I give these guys a unanimous vote BECAUSE they did it during the Steroid Era and are highly unlikely to have partaken in the juice themselves.

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                            • ExtremeGamer
                              Extra Life 11/3/18
                              • Jul 2002
                              • 35299

                              #15
                              Re: Did Hall voter do the right thing?

                              Originally posted by sroz39
                              Exactly. Two class acts that also happened to be tremendous ball-players. If anything, I give these guys a unanimous vote BECAUSE they did it during the Steroid Era and are highly unlikely to have partaken in the juice themselves.
                              But at the same time, no proof they didn't take steroids. Gwynn could have been juicing the entire time he played, just because he didn't hit HR's doesn't mean he wasn't juicing. Same with Ripken, maybe that's how he kept in such good shape to play everyday.

                              I don't believe either did take steroids for the record. Just saying, with the era and the assumptions of McGwire...

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