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  • ViperVisor
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    • Jul 2002
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    #46
    Re: What a joke Soriano better than Ichiro !

    Look at the team around Soriano !

    I could take his spot and the Yanks would still make the playoffs!

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    • ViperVisor
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      • Jul 2002
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      #47
      Re: What a joke Soriano better than Ichiro !

      Look at the team around Soriano !

      I could take his spot and the Yanks would still make the playoffs!

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      • cake612
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        • Jul 2002
        • 677

        #48
        Re: What a joke Soriano better than Ichiro !

        Best leadoff hitter in the game HA that's just ridiculous, Johnny Damon, Shannon Stewart, and Ray Durham are all better than Ichiro.

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        • cake612
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          • Jul 2002
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          #49
          Re: What a joke Soriano better than Ichiro !

          Best leadoff hitter in the game HA that's just ridiculous, Johnny Damon, Shannon Stewart, and Ray Durham are all better than Ichiro.

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          • NYJets
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            • Jul 2002
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            #50
            Re: What a joke Soriano better than Ichiro !

            IMO Soriano is a better player than Ichiro, and a comparable leadoff hitter, just a different type. Soriano led the lead in reaching 2nd base by himself pct., meaning by either a double or a stolen base. If you can start off a game with being in scoring position without getting an out, thats a huge edge, you give 3 guys a chance to either move you over and setup a sac fly or just drive you in.

            Now, I would say Soriano is better suited as batting towards the middle of the lineup, and Ichiro is no doubt the better leadoff hitter, hes great at it, but I think Soriano is much better than Ichiro offensively, and about as good in speed. Only part of the game that Ichiro is much better is defense, but Soriano has improved and is at this point at least average defensively.
            Originally posted by Jay Bilas
            The question isn't whether UConn belongs with the elites, but over the last 20 years, whether the rest of the college basketball elite belongs with UConn

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            • NYJets
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              • Jul 2002
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              #51
              Re: What a joke Soriano better than Ichiro !

              IMO Soriano is a better player than Ichiro, and a comparable leadoff hitter, just a different type. Soriano led the lead in reaching 2nd base by himself pct., meaning by either a double or a stolen base. If you can start off a game with being in scoring position without getting an out, thats a huge edge, you give 3 guys a chance to either move you over and setup a sac fly or just drive you in.

              Now, I would say Soriano is better suited as batting towards the middle of the lineup, and Ichiro is no doubt the better leadoff hitter, hes great at it, but I think Soriano is much better than Ichiro offensively, and about as good in speed. Only part of the game that Ichiro is much better is defense, but Soriano has improved and is at this point at least average defensively.
              Originally posted by Jay Bilas
              The question isn't whether UConn belongs with the elites, but over the last 20 years, whether the rest of the college basketball elite belongs with UConn

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              • ViperVisor
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                • Jul 2002
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                #52
                Re: What a joke Soriano better than Ichiro !

                you guys never disappoint me.

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                • ViperVisor
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                  #53
                  Re: What a joke Soriano better than Ichiro !

                  you guys never disappoint me.

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                  • bkrich83
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                    • Jul 2002
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                    #54
                    Re: What a joke Soriano better than Ichiro !

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                    Look at the team around Soriano !

                    I could take his spot and the Yanks would still make the playoffs!



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                    So then I guess he didn't kill his team then did he??
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                    • bkrich83
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                      #55
                      Re: What a joke Soriano better than Ichiro !

                      </font><blockquote><font class="small">Quote:</font><hr />
                      Look at the team around Soriano !

                      I could take his spot and the Yanks would still make the playoffs!



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                      So then I guess he didn't kill his team then did he??
                      Tracking my NCAA Coach Career

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                      • Pineiro3k38
                        Rookie
                        • Feb 2003
                        • 357

                        #56
                        Re: What a joke Soriano better than Ichiro !

                        Sorano 1 breakout year against an ICHIRO MVP season in 01 and still a pretty solid season .321,208 hits in 02. ICHIRO is the better player by that. I think ICHIRO will have a mvp year similar to what he did in 01 because he will get more rest which he hardly got any in 02.

                        Soriano is a bit overrated 150 Ks, 22 walks, .320 I think OBP. He is the worst fielding 2B in baseball.

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                        • Pineiro3k38
                          Rookie
                          • Feb 2003
                          • 357

                          #57
                          Re: What a joke Soriano better than Ichiro !

                          Sorano 1 breakout year against an ICHIRO MVP season in 01 and still a pretty solid season .321,208 hits in 02. ICHIRO is the better player by that. I think ICHIRO will have a mvp year similar to what he did in 01 because he will get more rest which he hardly got any in 02.

                          Soriano is a bit overrated 150 Ks, 22 walks, .320 I think OBP. He is the worst fielding 2B in baseball.

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                          • bkrich83
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                            #58
                            Re: What a joke Soriano better than Ichiro !

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                            He is the worst fielding 2B in baseball

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                            You obviously haven't watched to many Padres games.

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                            • bkrich83
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                              #59
                              Re: What a joke Soriano better than Ichiro !

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                              He is the worst fielding 2B in baseball

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                              You obviously haven't watched to many Padres games.

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                              • keRplunK
                                MVP
                                • Jul 2002
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                                #60
                                Re: What a joke Soriano better than Ichiro !

                                cake- did you just say that Johnny Damon, Shannon Stewart, and Ray Durham are better lead off hitters then Ichiro?.....Stewert barely is a leadoff hitter anymore and has actually gotten worse over the years, Durham is a decent player, and Johnny Damon's OBP is 35 points lower then Ichiro.

                                Sorianos biggest weaknesses are lack of discipline and inconsistent defense(although spectacular at times). These can be hid a little bit because when you always have people in front of you on base they are forced to pitch to you.

                                That being said what he did last year was stunning. He almost went 40/40 I don't think people realize how hard this is to do. The reason why everyone isn't saying that hes the next A-rod is his OBP is .333 THAT IS HORRIBLE. If he can get in the .380 range he will completly leave Ichiro in the dust and be arguably as good as A-rod. Until then Soriano is just to unpredicatable. I could see numbers any where from a .260 average to .340. Homeruns could be 25 or 45. People with .330 OBP have historically have very hard times keeping there production consistent. We won't know who is better until after this year.

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