Josh Hancock killed in crash this morning...

[bkfount]

Re: Josh Hancock killed in crash this morning...

they just said he was legally drunk. His BAC was twice the legal limit.

*******, what a ******.

[Easton]

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http://sports.espn.go.com/mlb/news/story?id=2860122

Story about his BAC being 0.157.

[Rod_Carew29]

@ bkfount

Yep! Heard the update on WFAN-AN (660) here in Manhattan about 30 minutes ago...along with the confirmation that there was marajuana in the car too.

they just said he was legally drunk. His BAC was twice the legal limit.

*******, what a ******.

[jake44np]

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So much misinformation in this thread. Most "facts" stated in this thread are incorrect or speculative. The real truth will come out in the next few days. Is anyone besides JH responsible for his actions? I don't think so, he is an adult who makes his own decisions. If you want to place blame on anyone else you could go on forever and blame everyone in baseball and the US. Until you have the facts, stop perpetuating rumors.

Just so you all know it has been unconfirmed whether or not he was legally drunk, it has been unconfirmed that pot was found in his car, it has been unconfirmed whether he was too hung-over to pitch on Thursday, it has been confirmed that alcohol was NOT found at the scene of the accident.

It's sad that some of you will spread rumors started on other sites. The truth will come out. I admit the circumstantial evidence looks pretty damning and I will not be surprised if some of these rumors are true but leave the damnation to those with the facts.

I guess the misinformation was true.

[Jimplication]

Re: @ bkfount

Police: Hancock intoxicated, speeding at time of fatal crash

ST. LOUIS -- St. Louis Cardinals pitcher Josh Hancock was drunk and talking on his cell phone at the time of his fatal accident, and marijuana was found in the sport utility vehicle he was driving.

Medical examiner Michael Graham said at a news conference Friday that the 29-year-old reliever was dead "within seconds" from head injuries in the crash early Sunday on Interstate 64 in St. Louis. His vehicle hit the back of a tow truck parked on the highway to assist a driver from a previous accident.

"There is nothing at all that could have been done for him," Graham said.

Hancock's blood-alcohol level was 0.157, nearly twice Missouri's legal limit of 0.08, Graham said.

Police Chief Joe Mokwa said 8.55 grams of marijuana and a glass pipe used to smoke marijuana were found in the rented Ford Explorer. Toxicology tests to determine if drugs were in his system had not been completed.

An accident reconstruction team determined Hancock was traveling 68 mph in a 55 mph zone when his SUV struck the back of a flatbed tow truck stopped in a driving lane. Mokwa said there was no evidence Hancock tried to stop. He did swerve, but too late to avoid the collision.

Hancock was not wearing a seat belt, but Graham said the belt would not have prevented his death.

Mokwa said Hancock was speaking with a female acquaintance about baseball and baseball tickets and that the conversation ended abruptly, apparently when the accident occurred. A police report said Hancock told the female acquaintance he was on his way to another bar, and that he planned to meet her there.

Hancock, a key bullpen member on the World Series championship team last season, was driving alone.

Hancock, who pitched three innings of relief in last Saturday's 8-1 loss to the Cubs, left Busch Stadium around 6:30 p.m. and arrived about two hours later at Mike Shannon's, a restaurant and bar owned by the former Cardinals third baseman who now is a team broadcaster. Police said Hancock left Shannon's shortly after midnight.

Around 12:30 a.m. Sunday, the tow truck came upon a disabled Geo Prism and stopped behind it with its yellow lights flashing to protect the car. A few moments later, Hancock's SUV struck the rear of the tow truck. The tow truck driver was not hurt.

"If you drink, don't drive," Mokwa said. "Use a taxi. Have a designated driver. Call a friend."

Graham said Hancock had severe chest injuries as well as the fatal head injuries.

Seems like a ******* to me. Thankfully, no innocent bystanders were hurt. I have no sympathy for those killed while driving drunk or under the influence of drugs. I reserve that sympathy for those innocent bystanders killed by these morons; which in this case, there were fortunately none.

[Hootiefish]

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I guess the misinformation was true.

Dude, you just did an "I told you so" on a guy's death. Classy.

[TJdaSportsGuy]

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Dude, you just did an "I told you so" on a guy's death. Classy.

Yeah, no joke. Say what you want about Hancock himself, but what about his family, for God's sake? Do you think it hurts them any less because he was drunk at the time of the accident? Hell, it probably hurts them more.

Like the rest of you, I'm happy that nobody else was hurt, but some of you seem almost glad that he died, and that he somehow deserved this. Unbelievable, how ****ty some people can be when it comes to things like this. Grow up, folks.

[Blzer]

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Yeah, no joke. Say what you want about Hancock himself, but what about his family, for God's sake? Do you think it hurts them any less because he was drunk at the time of the accident? Hell, it probably hurts them more.

Like the rest of you, I'm happy that nobody else was hurt, but some of you seem almost glad that he died, and that he somehow deserved this. Unbelievable, how ****ty some people can be when it comes to things like this. Grow up, folks.

I think it's more of just that now what happened wasn't quite unfortunate as much as it is now merely just a number to add to a statistic. I haven't been watching Sportscenter lately, but hopefully they reveal the new news. As sad as this event was, hopefully they can use this to their advantage... just another message for those to not drink and drive (or to not drink responsibly, which he may have been in more control of his responsibilities and not driven if he was at or near the legal limit).

[Jimplication]

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Yeah, no joke. Say what you want about Hancock himself, but what about his family, for God's sake? Do you think it hurts them any less because he was drunk at the time of the accident? Hell, it probably hurts them more.

Like the rest of you, I'm happy that nobody else was hurt, but some of you seem almost glad that he died, and that he somehow deserved this. Unbelievable, how ****ty some people can be when it comes to things like this. Grow up, folks.

It's the Internet. No one has accountability for what they write, and as a result, extreme positions either way are quite common.

In regards to this issue... Any time someone dies, it will be difficult for the family and those that know the person personally. In this case, I suspect few here do, so the area of affect is minimal to none. Thus, it's much easier for being drunk at the time of the crash to tarnish an otherwise unfortunate and truly sad story.

The reactions found in this thread, and every other thread at forums all over the Internet, is certainly nothing new, and ultimately the reactions and other responses to those reactions are what fuel threads in the first place. Otherwise, it's just a news article with the inability for readers to react and comment.

[Hootiefish]

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I think it's more of just that now what happened wasn't quite unfortunate as much as it is now merely just a number to add to a statistic.

While I know that is not at all how you meant it - a dead drunk driver is still more than a statistic and still no less unfortunate.

I lost my dad when I was three because he was drunk driving. Just because he was an idiot makes the incident no less unfortunate for my family.

[Blzer]

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Right, that's not how I meant it. By unfortunate, I think I meant "less common". So, there's now a better understanding to this accident, and there is good reasoning to believe that the accident occured because he was drinking.

And I'm sorry about your father. You're right, though... it's not less unfortuante in the sense that the person died, and I hope that it didn't appear that way when I wrote it. I just mean that... there's a difference between a game-ending ball four that just misses the strike zone, and one that misses by 8 inches.

[Hootiefish]

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Right, that's not how I meant it. By unfortunate, I think I meant "less common". So, there's now a better understanding to this accident, and there is good reasoning to believe that the accident occured because he was drinking.

And I'm sorry about your father. You're right, though... it's not less unfortuante in the sense that the person died, and I hope that it didn't appear that way when I wrote it. I just mean that... there's a difference between a game-ending ball four that just misses the strike zone, and one that misses by 8 inches.

I understand what you are saying. I wrote what I did more for the people in this thread who seem to think that Hancock deserved to die because he was drunk. I just happened to use your quote as the jump-off.

[jake44np]

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[QUOTE=Hootiefish;3100158]Dude, you just did an "I told you so" on a guy's death. Classy.[/QUOTE

I was merely stating the truth, the guy called us all liars when this story first broke. He said the truth would come out and that Hancock was not drinking and that the rumors where all lies. He said we would all see that we where all wrong.

It was terrible the guy died hopefully we can all learn from this and never drink and drive. I lost a cousin about 2 years ago when I drunk driver ran a stop light and hit her head on and I personally now never ever drink and drive.

[SPTO]

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I haven't commented on this but what a sad and very unfortunate story. It sounds like the guy had a lot of issues in his life especially with the bottle.

RIP

[stripmallp]

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I guess the misinformation was true.

Some of it was true, some of it untrue and some of it still unconfirmed. Regardless its still childish to spread rumors without the facts.